Anyone sane has left Xitter already and the crazies stay on their own platform, making the Web generally much more pleasant, as less and less sites link to Xitter.
Twitter is still influencing the rest of the web (look at its influence on reddit since Musk bought Twitter, and Spez started wanting to live in his skin). I don’t think we can just take the good without the bad and assume a net positive.
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Nah, as someone who came from reddit, we were generally a pretty terrible bunch even before bots basically took over. I don’t feel that Lemmy is much better but the platform’s overall practices seem to be better. My mileage with the community varies greatly from day to day.
I think the common denominator for all these things are people. People are pretty terrible in large numbers behind anonymity.
I joined reddit maybe a couple of years before violentacrez was outed by gawker media. I fully remember what it was like back then, and I wouldn’t say it got worse over time. I’d say that as time went on some things got better and others got worse so that on balance not much changed. I don’t really understand the people who have the rose tinted goggles about reddit. I didn’t leave because reddit users got actively worse so much as I left because the policies that the company were making and the things they were changing made the platform untenable.
I agree with what you’re saying. This is the curse of the anonymity of the internet at large and it happens everywhere. People just like to pretend that it doesn’t.
What annoys me about Lemmy, at least with the communities and instances that I’m connected to, is that it is a really bad echo chamber for left / far-left techies. It’s not exactly representative of what is going on in the world. Don’t get me wrong , I prefer a left mindset. But I believe this is dangerous to a certain degree. I’m starting to think I should go back to forae. This whole social bullshit disguised as a news-aggregator is just exhausting.
Twitter is defined entirely by what is followed, you can stay completely out of the toxic far right stuff and block those that don’t know where they are. There are still plenty of sub communities there that exist no where else and you can control your feed better than Lemmy and other forum like systems. Twitter overall is declinimg but it’s not the full picture because what is happening doesn’t impact lots of people who use the platform that much.
For me, it kept a lot of the worst of the idiots away from places like reddit.
As soon as xitter got bad, lots of them left. You see, those kinds of weaponsied, unhigned right wingers are so repulsive to be around, they can’t even stand each other. More so, they dont even want to have a conversation or an exchange of ideas. They literally just want to rant at people, parroting the lines they read somewhere else at anyone they think disagrees with them.
If everyone agrees with you, you have no one to rant at.
The only reason that this is unpopular is that there are a lot of things that happened to the web that are far better than some overhyped group text vomiting website going downhill.
I mean to some extent you aren’t wrong.
If it wasn’t for Twitter going downhill I am not sure if Mastodon and the rest of the Fediverse would had become as populated as they are now. While Reddit might had maybe gave some usership, both combined going bad really helped.
Unfortunately most of our local politicians remained there with the crazies.
I think that’s what is kind of dangerous about the decline of it. At the end it’s just a cesspool full of “those” people who are even further removed from reality
Unpopular opinion? I thought this was a popular opinion.
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i feel like all good things there good when there on the edge and then comes mass adoption and along with it the bots the ads and the bs ive noticed alot of the old reddit trolls that used to farm the ama groups moving to lemmy
I disagree, not really an unpopular opinion.
I mean Musk said Twitter was a Bad Thing and problematic.
Then a year or so later bought it, and immediately started doing things which reduced it’s popularity and influence.
I think he wanted to run it into the ground or make it a fashist/rightwing/propaganda site before the US elections and it looks like he’s pretty much there. It’s in a horrible state. Could be worse, but it’s really bad.
I think he had no god dammed idea what he was doing and still doesn’t.
Imagine thinking that platform only “went bad” recently.
Public micro blogging overall is a bane, so yes.
Exactly, that’s why I never used Twitter, and it’s why I don’t use Mastodon. I don’t want to follow people, I want to follow ideas, and the Reddit/Lemmy model fits what I’m looking for better.
I don’t see this as an unpopular opinion, but I do agree with it - at least here (Brazil) Twitter was evolving into a containment cage for nutjobs and morons, until it was blocked. (And it’s damn easy to find who’s who in the Bluesky diaspora, as the nutjobs/morons miss Twitter while the saner people are glad to see it locally gone.)
The SCP facility has been breached
Once it finally crumbled, they have to go somewhere
No twatter links sure, but they’ll go to shittier sites
Or worse, the very sites you use
