• Flying Squid@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      55
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      3 months ago

      What is the UN human rights chief supposed to do about it?

      He did all that was in his power:

      Volker Türk told an emergency meeting of the U.N. Security Council there must be an independent and transparent investigation of the two attacks in Lebanon on Tuesday and Wednesday where these devices exploded, reportedly killing 37 people and injuring more than 3,400 others.

      • RagingRobot@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        4
        arrow-down
        38
        ·
        edit-2
        3 months ago

        They could all say they are going to disband if Israel doesn’t stop. Why even have the UN if they can’t do anything

        Or better yet expel isreal

        • TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          5
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          3 months ago

          How would you react if the UN becomes the world government, so that they would finally have the power to stop wars and hunger that people always complain about?

          Precisely.

          • RagingRobot@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            7
            arrow-down
            2
            ·
            edit-2
            3 months ago

            I may be ok with that depending on the governing structure they came up with for a world government. Like would it be a democracy? Socialism? It really depends lol

            But right now it seems very ineffective if America or Israel does something horrible they can just veto or whatever and nothing gets done.

            As an American myself I would love it if the UN actually had powers to keep my government in line. they sure as hell don’t listen to the will of the people.

            • TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              5
              ·
              edit-2
              3 months ago

              There is no reason why the UN as a world government could not be a democracy. After all, the institution has always been parroting about the rule of law; ending world hunger and poverty; and the UN General Assembly rightfully called out blatant violations of international laws. The WHO is the most successful organisation by containing and eradicating many diseases including smallpox and COVID.

              People complain of the UN being powerless, and yet distrustful of giving it more power. Either it has to remain powerless or furnish it with actual power. The doublethink should end and people have to make up their minds.

              Edit: grammar

        • azuth@sh.itjust.works
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          8
          ·
          3 months ago

          The UN should disband for not stopping Israel, something the US (Biden right now) would stop yet when Biden was criticized you defended him as ‘there was nothing he could do’.

          Love Americans and their hypocrisy.

        • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          40
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          edit-2
          3 months ago

          First of all, that’s also not in his power.

          Secondly, how would disbanding the part of the UN that investigates human rights abuses help Palestinians?

          Edit: Wait, you think the entire UN should be disbanded over this?

          The UN is the only reason we haven’t had a nuclear war yet. Otherwise, countries wouldn’t have a neutral world forum.

            • SupraMario@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              35
              ·
              3 months ago

              That’s not what the UN is for… it’s not a military force… it’s a round table for nations to work their differences out via words and not nuking each other.

              • Lad@reddthat.com
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                28
                ·
                3 months ago

                People like to criticise the UN but the alternative to having the UN is having no UN. We’d be fucked

                • Pilferjinx@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  arrow-down
                  12
                  ·
                  3 months ago

                  We need something more than the UN that has real power to stop Israel’s terror and genocide. The UN can fuck off and prevent it’s theoretical events elsewhere.

                  • kattfisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                    link
                    fedilink
                    arrow-up
                    5
                    ·
                    3 months ago

                    The US doesn’t even recognize the authority of the internation war crime tribunal, you really think they (or any other superpower) would accept binding arbitration in matters of international relations?

                  • Pelicanen@sopuli.xyz
                    link
                    fedilink
                    arrow-up
                    6
                    ·
                    3 months ago

                    And how do you propose to create this organization and get countries to agree on its legitimacy?

    • azuth@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      8
      arrow-down
      4
      ·
      3 months ago

      The US will veto any action.

      It’s them you should be criticizing. It’s always them or Russia/China for the other team.

    • givesomefucks@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      29
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      3 months ago

      They are…

      They’ve had arrest warrants out for a while, but they do t have their own police force to enforce it

      It relies on member states arresting them when they enter their country. It why Bibi hasn’t been going anywhere besides America. Biden is one of the few leaders willing to side with Israel over the UN

      • PseudorandomNoise@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        3 months ago

        Aren’t there arrest warrants against George W. Bush from like 20 years ago? This is just more talk that won’t be backed up by any meaningful action because of how trivially easy it is to avoid going to these countries.