While Dick Cheney has endorsed Harris, there have been no comments from other senior Republicans from Bush’s era
The MSNBC host Lawrence O’Donnell this week hit out at George W Bush, the Republican former president, for refusing to weigh in on America’s looming presidential election.
“All any decent person wants him to do is to say, ‘Don’t vote for Donald Trump, and here’s why,’ and he won’t even do that,” O’Donnell told the Fast Politics podcast, of the Republican president who was in office from 2001 to 2009.
Increasingly, Bush – and some other top Republicans from his political era – are looking lonely in their ongoing refusal to take a side in an election in which many have warned that US democracy is under threat from Trump’s open sympathies with autocracy.
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Hilarious to me that all the media spent time rehabbing Bush’s image and he can’t even manage to match Dick fucking Cheney?
Cheney is pissed at his daughter losing her family-guaranteed sinecure in Wyoming to a Trumpie, because he’s invested in his family’s political legacy.
Bush has no real beef with the Trumps and isn’t trying to give his daughters a leg up into the next administration.
Totally different set of political incentives to endorse.
Bushes are morally bankrupt anyways. Two war criminals and one of them, Laura, killed her friend in a car accident where she ran a stop sign.
Morally indefensible but thank the Lord we don’t have any morals to worry about
Centrists are so disappointed that senpai didn’t notice them.
Didn’t he start the stacking the supreme court? Could have been his dad. Jr was just stupider.
No, that was Ronald Reagan, who gave us most of the SCOTUS justices who picked W over Gore to be President in the 2000 election despite his having lost.
Hes in a special position. If trump did not exist he would be in the running for worst president.
Nah Regan’s got that shit locked down. Trump wouldn’t even have been possible without Regan.
hey man then you know there is the OG nixon.
Now watch that drive
Why did anyone ever think he was any good? The folksy paintings? The aw-shucks friendship with Michelle Obama?
This dipshit has the blood of millions on his hands. He gave us Alito. He destroyed as much of the administrative state as he could. His CIA daddy stole his election.
Can you imagine our world today if Gore had gotten in?
Fuck Cheney too, he only cares because Trump was mean to his shithead daughter.
Can you imagine our world today if Gore had gotten in?
It’s not very well-remembered today that Clinton’s administration ended with a budget surplus of hundreds of billions of dollars or that Gore was by far the most prominent voice in the world sounding the alarm about global warming. With a Gore victory we could have been debt-free as a nation by now and actually taking significant steps towards ending our dependency on fossil fuels; instead the debt is $35 fucking trillion dollars (which is so enormous it sounds like a joke) and the only reason this isn’t a bigger problem is that we’re cooking ourselves off the planet anyway and no amount of debt is going to matter.
Somewhat tangential, but “global warming” was always a weak formulation of the problem and “climate change” even more so. I prefer “anthropogenic runaway global heating” which more accurately frames the actual problem and has the handy acronym ARGH.
Never forget, the election was literally stolen from Gore. The electoral equivalent of the OJ Simpson trial.
Oh, now everyone is surprised when he acts like a piece of shit? My good friend growing up died in Iraq in 2008. For what?
To Bush, being morally indefensible is a plus.
That would be his chance to do something decent for once.
Reminds me of when Pink wrote a song for him Dear Mr. President and we thought he is the worst that can happen…
“How do you sleep while the rest of us cry?”Ex-Presidents don’t endorse future politicians. They step aside for new leadership.
Sure, go ahead and try to execute the VP, overturn election results, completely stonewall judicial appointments, but actually calling out a traitor is a bridge too far.
Because Trump is a pig, all the rest should roll in the mud also? That doesn’t seem wise.
Obama and Biden? And Harris?
You just write down whatever you make up in your head as if it were a fact, or what?
I’ve studied political science, economics, and history for ten years. Most don’t have the time and resources. My mistake was engaging the echo chamber with something so complicated.
And the proof several others posted about former presidents endorsing candidates, including George W. Bush doesn’t mean anything because you are the authority here?
Maybe presidents shouldn’t endorse, but not everything is as it should, because you said so. And just because it shouldn’t you can’t just say it isn’t, as if it were a fact.
Reagan changed many paradigms for the worse. I’d bet the majority here couldn’t name his predecessor without looking it up, let alone the legislative majorities and legislation.
I’m going to go do something more productive.
Yeah, man. This crowd doesn’t really care about the point you were trying to make. Lemmy just wants to vote their feelings.
Don’t sweat it.
Don’t sweat it.
Your lack of care (and history of shallow reasoning and arrogance) is why everything increasingly sucks.
This crowd… Lemmy
This crowd isn’t representative of Lemmy whole.
A. I was commiserating with you.
B. Not sure where you are coming from with that weird judgment about my shallow reasoning and arrogance, lol.
C. Cheers mate. Maybe you should take a break.
insert Skinner meme here
“It must be everyone else that’s wrong.”
It’s not actually that complicated. Every living former president, including the one the article is about, has made endorsements either in this or a previous election.
Yet 4 former presidents endorsed Harris. So what are you on about?
They’re wrong to do so. It’s an old tradition intended to ensure peaceful transfer of power and avoid hegemony. They disrespect the office.
A tradition like president candidates releasing tax returns or presidents making White House visitor logs public or staying out of justice department actions or not personally profiting off the presidency or…
A tradition like president candidates releasing tax returns or presidents making White House visitor logs public or staying out of justice department actions or not personally profiting off the presidency or…
Yes. Much of the precedent that constitutes a “good” President was established by the actions of Washington and Adams.
They disrespect the office.
An endorsement disrespects the office, but Trump shitting all over the office, and every citizen isn’t. Yeah you can fuck right off with your disingenuous bullshit.
I expect and deserve better. It’s not a popular perspective here, where all have settled for “not Trump”. I’ll leave you to your less than mediocre whatever.
I’ll leave you to your less than mediocre whatever.
Ironic. And the third-party candidates aren’t?
Can’t not read that in Comic Book Guy’s voice.
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Bush endorsed Romney in 2012.
Bush also endorsed McCain in 2008
https://www.reuters.com/article/world/us-politics/bush-endorses-mccain-for-presidency-idUSWAT009073/
He also endorsed a bunch of non-presidential political candidates.
Yeah, the dignity of the office took quite a nose dive at Reagan.
I mean, who’s surprised by this? Dubya was always a dumbass, and essentially the beta version of Trump.
Dubya was actually quite intelligent, just a shit speaker and an asshole.
Lol wrong.
The poster did say he was an asshole. Bush was elected to be the governor Texas and held onto the presidency - he wasn’t a dumbass.
Not sure he was even a shit speaker if we compare him to Trump. His sentences at least made sense. I’m sure he just wants to be done with it all. He retired from office 15 years ago, and he lives in Texas I thought. If he endorses Harris, Trumpees will lash out at him. We can call that cowardly to not speak out do to fear of retribution but he is 78 years old. 78 year olds shouldnt be key factors in planning for our futures, they should be relaxing and planning their next health care visits that we have figured out a way they can access. The average male in the U.S. dies at 74. Let the old man paint a few more pictures on canvas if so chooses and pass in his time. That said… Wish Trump would do the same.
The question we should be asking is: is our children learning?
Edit: apparently some missed that this is a literal quote from Dubya.
People keep repeating that, where was this intelligence when he was president?
And on that note, what actions have ever displayed this “quite intelligent” side?
W was an actual Yale graduate and if you look at clips from his governorship of Texas you will see a person who could speak coherently in complete sentences and everything. Republicans have long targeted people with a fifth-grade level of comprehension and fake being that stupid. Trump’s only real innovation is targeting people with a third-grade level of comprehension.
That doesn’t really provide evidence of him being smart. Which goes back to my point, there isn’t enough actual examples out there of him being smart. Being able to talk just means you’re not very stupid, smart is a higher bar.
I’m not saying he was any sort of genius, just that he wasn’t the country bumpkin he was pretending to be.
Well my original comment was about people saying he is smart. Not being dumb doesn’t not automatically mean you’re intelligent.
No one is saying he is actually stupid, but I’m calling BS on him being “smart” given how there actually has never been any evidence of that.
He was a fighter jet pilot in the National guard. You have to be at least above average intelligence to be left alone to fly one of those things no matter who your connections are. The folksy dumb guy was mostly just an act. No doubt Cheney was the evil genius behind the administration but George was right in there and aware of what was going on.
George Lakoff is on record saying he heard him give a speech displaying masterful rhetoric. Then he lost an election to a “bubba”, and vowed, quote, “I’m never gonna get out-bubba’d again”.
W was always a tool, a blank slate for his owners to use. The guy has no thoughts of his own so I’m not surprised.
He may not have been a genius mastermind but he’s smart enough not to be absolved of the evils he committed. Blank slate is a juuuuust a bit too far for me
Just saying
The need for validation from war criminals is the problem along with this silent shift to the right by Dems. This would be a good time for Dems to actually become a party for the working class/poor.
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