Where is my fucking lady Rosalind Franklin at?
TBF the male researchers involved in Franklin’s case are/were straight-up assholes across the board, not just sexist appropriators.
First thing I thought too!!
The nobel prize is a fucking self congratulatory sham anyway if you read about its history
The clearest case of this is when Jethro Tull won the Nobel Heavy Metal prize.
They gave the Nobel Peace Prize to a war criminal.
Henry Kissinger? Or Barack Obama?
Yes.
Inventor of dynamite’s legacy: pin awards on great discoveries.
How did you think that would pan out?
To the best, or to the loudest & most destructive?
I’d love to meet whoever made this graphic. Shake his hand. Seems like a good dude.
Lol… what?
My attempt at a joke about casual sexism. I was a little high, and I’m not sure if it landed
A exhaled some air harder than usual, and gave you an Upvote. FWIW.
That’s honestly all I wanted
Took me a while to get it but very much appreciated
Probably made by a promising young man.
At least Lise Meitner is not forgotten, I currently work in a building on Lise-Meitner Street!
I wamted to post Ada Lovelace and Maria Curie, but then I read image.
Marie Skłodowska Curie
For our polish friends
Bobr says yes.
Based and redpilled scientists
Could also add Marie Curie in there. I didn’t realise until recently that there is a lot of controversy over France “claiming her achievements” since she was born and educated in Poland.
It’s not sexist to credit the french. France is gay. /s
I think you missed the point of the list. See the third line? “Too bad a man was given all the credit.” The France/Poland thing isn’t related.
I thought her husband took a lot of the credit at the time. Might be mistaken about that though.
At first the committee had intended to honour only Pierre Curie and Henri Becquerel, but a committee member and advocate for women scientists, Swedish mathematician Magnus Gösta Mittag-Leffler, alerted Pierre to the situation, and after his complaint, Marie’s name was added to the nomination. Marie Curie was the first woman to be awarded a Nobel Prize.
While she shared her first Nobel prize with her husband, her second was all hers. I’d argue she’s much more recognizable and celebrated today than Pierre. I can’t say the same when they were living but at least it’s nice that we got that part right
Who is downvoting this?
Have you met men on the internet lately? like a 1/3 chance of intense misogyny.
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Lmao what
If you think ONE THIRD of men are not just misogynistic, which would be laughable enough, but “intensely” so, you are absolutely the problem, not them
If we’re still honest here, didn’t these men just shield them from the burdens of fame and criticism?
So they could focus on their families
I think people missed your sarcasm lol
Half this list is nobel prizes going to supervisors when the woman in question was either a student or dead, neither of which qualify for a nobel prize.
It’s good to stand against discrimination, but there is no need to embellish the truth.
Probably people who have heard of these scientists being recently credited for their work.
The phrase “all the credit” is a bit sensationalist, and it’s too easy to poke holes in, although I do concede that “Most of the credit” is vague and “All of the Nobel Prize recognition and prize money / peer accolades” is a bit too wordy.
It’s important that we don’t weaken the cause by easily disprovable exaggeration. These scientists did not get nearly enough credit; true.
So, how about you go ahead and do the math on how long it took for that to finally happen for each of these women? And when you’re done not bothering to do that, go ahead and admit that you wouldn’t be pissed at all if your hard work and lifetime of research and sacrifice was credited to someone else- and not corrected until you’re long dead.
Because I’ll be waiting here to call you a liar.
Do you have quotes on these women being infuriated? Jocelyn Bell shut down tabloids who insinuated she wasn’t credited, and Payne was cited by Russel as “the most important research” after a different person, her advisor, told her not to rock the boat on her thesis project. Payne became a department chairwoman some years later.
I agree, it’s infuriating.
Don’t forget Mary Anning!
Anning searched for fossils in the area’s Blue Lias and Charmouth Mudstone cliffs, particularly during the winter months when landslides exposed new fossils that had to be collected quickly before they were lost to the sea. Her discoveries included the first correctly identified ichthyosaur skeleton when she was twelve years old; the first two nearly complete plesiosaur skeletons; the first pterosaur skeleton located outside Germany; and fish fossils. Her observations played a key role in the discovery that coprolites, known as bezoar stones at the time, were fossilised faeces, and she also discovered that belemnite fossils contained fossilised ink sacs like those of modern cephalopods.
Anning struggled financially for much of her life. As a woman, she was not eligible to join the Geological Society of London, and she did not always receive full credit for her scientific contributions. However, her friend, geologist Henry De la Beche, who painted Duria Antiquior, the first widely circulated pictorial representation of a scene from prehistoric life derived from fossil reconstructions, based it largely on fossils Anning had found and sold prints of it for her benefit.
I want to upvote this so many times!!
Don’t. Because this graph takes more than just a few liberties with history, specifically for the sake of creating some kind of outrage.
It isn’t a graph.
Some of the best evidence we discovered for tectonic plates was discovered by a woman. Marie Tharp discovered the Mid-Atlantic ridge and had her work stolen by her colleague.
And of course Headie Lamar gets snubbed with this graphic… The woman who is the reason most of us are online, and able to listen to our podcasts
I believe her contributions are farily well known nowadays. The idea was probably to highlight those that most people never heard of.
Considering how this graph… Hmm… Shall we say… Takes a number of creative liberties with actual history surrounding these great women, doesn’t this graph undermine its own message?
In what ways?
I don’t know the context, but it sounds like the person your responding to says the achievements from these women are exaggerated in the meme, and by lying about the value of their contributions you’re discrediting the “women in STEM” movement
This comment discusses the “exaggerations” in more detail: https://lemmy.ml/comment/13915583
I could take a gander as well, but they don’t actually say anything substantive so I guess we’ll never know.
See also Rosalind Franklin who first discovered DNA’s double helix structure (three men later received the Nobel Prize for this finding).
And more examples here.
Franklin might have won the prize, had she not died 4 years before the prize was awarded. Rules forbid the Nobel being awarded to the deceased.
True. But it’s still three men named in the list of Nobel Prize winners, when a woman first made the actual discoveries. So even if there was no foulplay, it’s important to shine a light on women like Franklin.
Fuck Watson and Crick, all my homies hate Watson and Crick
