Gotta excuse supporting genocide in good faith. After all it is an election year
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In case you’re not aware, there are 350 million Americans that depend on government policy making in order for it to all function properly. Is Trump your guy for the job?
In case you aren’t aware, Biden, not trump is currently responsible for supplying the weapons being used for the genocide going on right now. Are you cool with whitewashing genocide? Or is gaslighting your thing?
That’s it, I’m not voting for Biden again.
If people didn’t speak up, you might of had to…
Yeah and if my grandma had wheels she’d be a wheeled prostitute.
In the right market she’d make bank! Rolling in the dough as it were
You of to do what you of to do…
Personally, I try not to shame anyone for voting a specific way, though I certainly still judge them for it. I’m just trying to be more curious now, rather than disrespectful
Of the two choices, which do you believe will result in the most harm?
I believe if you keep aiding genocide, it will result in the most harm. If you stop aiding genocide it would lead to less genocide.
Which, more. Say a name, or nothing else.
Claudia de la Cruz
Not a viable option.
Stopping this can be done right now. It would be much easier to a win election if you didn’t have to apologize for genocide or committing ongoing support for it. The candidates need to earn votes, which is completely doable before Nov 5th. I don’t see enough of a distinction on this. It incredibly stupid waste of money to support this glaringly evil state.
Edit: Vermin Supreme
So… Between Trump and Harris who do you think will result in the most harm?
The senile filanderer criticized Biden of not sending enough to Israel. He’s not blameless. I’m not excusing Biden, but Trump is still worse and any vote that doesn’t push him further away is the worst option.
look i have had the choice for with or without lube for half a century now. Thing is saying I don’t want to get sodomized at all just results in the default of without lube. I hate it with lube but I really, really hate it without.
Maybe the most egregious example of this was something I saw yesterday, which was somebody saying “Tim Walz needs to go vegan”. When pressed about why him and not, say, Donald Trump, they said that people on the left and center were more likely to actually be swayed. It wasn’t worth engaging any further, but I thought it was pretty hilarious that they bothered to try to push the 60-year-old VP candidate to go vegan, but not the 40-year-old VP candidate. Like, you know that you’re not pushing the needle for anybody with that post, right?
It’s about as useless as making a post saying that JD Vance should hang dry his clothes instead of wasting energy running a clothes dryer.
Look pal, the general said “sow division” amongst whatever socio-political lines we can see, ok? Why Do You Hate Black Vegan Catholics???
(/s obl.)
Suggesting it’s easier to convince a Midwestern football coach/car dad to go vegan than an NYC germaphobe is a level of optimism I have never seen
Nothing gets better permanently under Democrats. Nothing gets better under Republicans. You sir or ma’am, are a moron, and a traitor to the Republic. You’ve chosen the side of traitors. You’re either a shill, or a willing idiot. Your kind have a new world to face. One without your comfortable lies instead of inconvenient truths. Now your kind along with everyone else your kind has doomed, has to face harsh realities. Enjoy the apocalypse. Should be a show.
Did you know that one hundred percent of democrats die?
Chuck Schumer will live forever.
Him and Mitch the turtle, bickering at each other during the heat death of the universe.
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Oh now you’re saying there’s going to be an apocalypse? Lol.
This guy cracks me up
Sorry, guys. I’m voting for the only candidate that can end global warming.
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Do you have a newsletter I can sign up for?
Giant Meteor / Butt Stuff ‘24!
This time we’ll get it in the end!
BOHICA.
Please don’t play with my emotions
This is the 3rd party I’ve been waiting for.
Where are all the Russian plants, oops I mean true progressives, at to tell us we’re just not leftist or progressive enough and Jill is totally definitely only ever trying to improve things for the country, ignoring her meeting with Putin and aides, and also Kamala is literally no different than Trump! Universalmonk, verdantbanana….i need you to straighten OP out! /s
Jill is too mainstream, I’ve voting for Rachele Fruit of the Socialist Workers Party!
Vermin Supreme for Every Elected Position 2024. The one true choice.
A mandatory tooth brushing law is the most un-American bullshit I can think of.
Not the hero we deserved, but the hero we needed. Nothing less than a knight, shining…
I was gonna try and write a comment 1upping you because I didn’t think Rachele Fruit was a real person, but then I decided to look her up just to double-check. Nope! She’s actually a real person.
She’s the next President of the United States
Hail to the Fruit
Oh you’ve changed the candidate you’re backing, huh? You are a very serious voter with real principles and values, Mr. Monk.
Where’s that universalmonk blyat?
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You can’t call any of them by name, unlike Beetlejuice. You have to post something positive, even mildly so, about the Harris/Walz campaign. Then all the little rats come scurrying over to tell you how you’re a genocide stan and any real American should be voting for Cornoliverill Stein de la Fruit, and it’s definitely not because daddy Putin said so.
I broke the script the other day when they said they were ok with a trump second term. That they weren’t afraid of trump. I highlighted the conservative judicial appointments impact the working class and minority groups and they simply couldn’t address it.
I don’t have to explain anything to you.
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What does MRW mean? I’m old.
I fcking knew it. These people can’t go one minute without bringing that place up. It’s disgusting.
My Reaction When…
Cool, thank you
Yeah, I’m gonna continue with my lesser evil voting like I do every election. The Democrats pinky promise that they will put forth good policy in the next election cycle.
If they spent that energy campaigning for election reform instead of harassing Lemmy users I’d find it more convincing.
They’re not here in good faith and I don’t believe they ever were.
I would rather someome vote for a party other than Dem or Rep, than not vote at all.
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… Because I want people to vote? I did not expect that to be a hot take.
May have been misinterpreted as a flat “I would rather someone vote for a party other than Dem or Rep” without “than not vote at all” to contextualize it.
“Misinterpreted” is a funny way to spell “illiterate”.
Voting for a third party in our two party system is throwing your vote away. Based on polling, a vote for a third party is a vote for Trump.
Take whatever you have against Harris and balance it against what a second Trump administration will bring.
TLDR it’s Fascism. Voting for any third party is signing off on Fascism.
If you’re an accelerationist, your side is not going to win. What you want is terrible and you’re a terrible person.
Tankie is the nicest way I could describe you.
It’s actually far worse.
You’re a Fascist sympathizer.
“Anyone who doesn’t think exactly like me is a fascist.”
Do you not see how this is abrasive? Do you think you are swaying anyone to your side with this kind of discourse?
So lets pretend for the moment that a green party candidate or another random 3rd party won.
Do you think that they’ll have a mandate?
What about their legislative agenda?
They’re a lame duck.
Without Congress to pass laws they are useless and they have no representation in Congress so that’s dead on arrival.
If you legitimately want a 3rd party choice, then you have to advocate for ranked choice voting. Run for your local school board, local legislature. Coalitions are built from the bottom up, not the top down.
Jill Stein can’t even bring herself to call Putin a war criminal. Makes me wonder who’s financing her campaign. I don’t care what her people said about it later, she is obviously compromised.
Cornell West? He probably needs to make alimony payments and thought hey I can use this to sell a book.
Look, Biden is far from perfect, and least Harris presents an option from a different path. Trump isn’t going to stop Israel. Did you see what Miriam Adelson made Trump promise to do for her support? Let Israel annex the West Bank.
The only thing that might stop that is voting for Harris. And if you don’t, then you’re co-signing genocide. But that’s your choice. Tankies always go for the end justifies the means route. I guess that that means finishing up the Palestinian genocide. Better to kill em quick than to let them suffer longer right? Why not give Ukraine to Putin too right?
As I said, TANKIE DETECTED
Encouraging people to vote third party in a two party system is enabling Fascism as those votes should go to Harris. Trump is a fascist. If you are arguing in good faith, I can explain why. But I feel like you’re not, hence, Tankie.
Wild.
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Average lemmy world user. Yall call people tankies the same way maga calls people socialists.
Oh look, a TANKIE
This one was funny though.
db0 is an anarchist instance, do you even know what actual tankies do to anarchists or are you just repeating a buzzword you know nothing about?
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A trolley barrels towards a bunch of construction workers stuck on the tracks.
- If you pull the first lever it will divert and only kill one person.
- If you don’t pull the first lever it will kill 100 people, including that one person from before - he’s standing before the track change.
- But, and now this is key, there is a second lever to the right of the first that says “Display lever only, does nothing.” It does nothing.
What do you do?Is doing my Jason Russell impression an option?
You blame someone else. It’s definitely not your fault, it definitely cannot be that.
Get on the tracks with them. We die together.
I said throw shit onto the track to try and stop the trolley once.
The philosophy majors did not like me pointing out it was ridiculous to imagine the problem existing in a void with an absolute limit on possible courses of action.
They liked it even less when I reminded them that the problem was invented to make fun of them by a philosopher who was arguing that both courses of action were ridiculous conclusions to reach given the broader context of a trolley crash not existing in a vacuum.
Thought experiments in the void is how we got the declaration that feathers and lead weights were affected by different rates of gravity.
Cool, so if you dont vote for Harris, you’re wasting your vote.
I also think philosophy is mostly dumb. But there is a vacuum here, shitty democracy or fascism. You can throw shit on the tracks, that just means one less vote against fascism
I was talking about the philosophy problem itself not the FPTP vote. As you could probably guess from the context of me dunking on the philosophy majors so much.
I couldn’t possibly pull either lever, that would put blood on my hands! Instead I spend all day on Lemmy urging everyone to pull the display lever. This is different from me touching any levers directly, because reasons.
Assuming bad faith over everyone who disagrees with you is a first step to fanaticism and vulnerability to external opinion.
Weaponizing tribe mentality to reach your goals is very bad long-term, and makes yourself susceptible to the same trap.
Lemmy, unfortunately, is very prone to that. Remember that time people called here for Biden to step down and were downvoted into oblivion? Where were they when he actually stepped down and everyone started cheering for Harris all of a sudden?
There are valid reasons to NOT vote for the Democratic party in these elections, even if you clearly don’t side with the Republicans.
Go Team Harris!
Noooo you aren’t allowed to say that!
One of the mouth breathing imbeciles who will determine our future based on a confluence of distraction, idiocy, and geography might read it and think they too have a choice!
Or worse yet enough people might get the idea that their vote is more than just something to throw away. If even 1% of the country grows that way each cycle corporate profits might be threatened at some point!
Believe the people who sobbed their hideous wretched guts out that we had to support Biden! They’re never wrong On PuRpOsE!
Haha this, libs are so cruel and violent that they can’t possible imagine someone taking a principled stance on genocide.
These were the same libs decrying the “violence” of broken windows and looting during the George Floyd riots.
Bye Felicia.