Of course, two weeks to the election: “vote third party!” May as well be saying, “Throw away your votes and make sure that you have even less say in the outcome of this election than most people already have, and let the even smaller minority decide for you.”
Third parties should be valid choices, but they aren’t. Not in a First Past The Post voting system. They are never the sound choice when FPTP always leads to two diametrically opposed major parties. IIf you want third parties to be relevant and good choices beyond local elections, advocate for voting system reform, not for people to throw away their votes out of dissatisfaction with the status quo. For now, we live in reality, and we have to vote accordingly.
Edit: Also, way to say “I’m not saying they are the same. They are different… I’m just saying their differences are essentially negligible” pffft. Ok.
Effectively and intently are different in this case. The margins are so close that “not voting for genocode” is voting for worse genocide. We don’t get a choice of not genocide.
There is no such thing as worse genocide. Just because you’re proving that you would vote for Hitler, doesn’t mean you can shame or threaten the rest of us into voting for Hitler.
There is always a choice. Im not voting for genocide.
I know you’re probably just trolling, so it doesn’t matter what I say. But I’ll keep it up anyway, for the slim chance you are just a closed minded child that has been indoctrinated and isn’t actually thinking about anything they are saying, just reacting and spewing whatever comes to mind.
The real world isn’t about what you want to happen in an ideal world. It’s about what will actually happen as a result of your actions. There very much is worse genocide, genocide of more types of people at once, in more places at once, and to a worse scale for people already being genocided. Please don’t let Trump get what he wants.
Yes, of course everyone decent wants what you want… we’re not idiots. But we also can see that there is no path to it. And that trying to get it will just lead to losing the chance to have 90% of what we want instead.
There is no black and white choice in real life, which can be hard to accept for people stuck on black and white thinking(which is actually alot of people, like 10% or so). Trying to make decisions as though something must be perfect to be a good choice, is going to lead to having huge problems because this isn’t the only situation where trying to pick the perfect choice just leads to getting a way worse result. Usually, the consequences will come in the form of waiting and doing nothing because a perfect choice never presents itself. But sometimes people prey on a black and white mentality to falsely present a “perfect” choice, knowing some percentage of the population will have no choice but to fall for it.
Sometimes, third-party candidates are even funded by the other side in order to do this very thing for something as important as an election. So they very well know that it has an effect, if people like that are willing to actually spend money they could otherwise be hoarding.
Well, good luck. Obviously, I hope your perfect candidate gets in, and it doesn’t just allow Trump in like I think it would. I would be very happy if you were right and I was wrong.
But I forsee third party candidates getting 10% of the vote, and those votes coming primarily from Kamala, and then having to live with Trump. Kamala clearly isn’t perfect. No one thinks she is, politics are just broken enough that it doesn’t play out the way you clearly want it to. No matter what. You want third party, make sure they are in a position where they are polling decently before it is too late, or no one will waste their vote on them.
I’m sorry, child, I’m not voting for genocide. That is humanity’s red line. If you want to be the same as a Nazi and gleefully or even sorrowfully vote for genocide, that’s on you. History treats the Nazis that voted out of fear the same as those that voted out of pride.
The sad thing is I’m starting to think they do realize what they’re saying. They genuinely believe genocide is inevitable and they’re not at fault for choosing to support it.
It’s weird living through a fascist dystopia and coming to understand first hand how “reasonable” people come to outright openly cheer on genocide.
Of course, two weeks to the election: “vote third party!” May as well be saying, “Throw away your votes and make sure that you have even less say in the outcome of this election than most people already have, and let the even smaller minority decide for you.”
Third parties should be valid choices, but they aren’t. Not in a First Past The Post voting system. They are never the sound choice when FPTP always leads to two diametrically opposed major parties. IIf you want third parties to be relevant and good choices beyond local elections, advocate for voting system reform, not for people to throw away their votes out of dissatisfaction with the status quo. For now, we live in reality, and we have to vote accordingly.
Edit: Also, way to say “I’m not saying they are the same. They are different… I’m just saying their differences are essentially negligible” pffft. Ok.
That’s nice dear, I’m not voting for genocide.
Effectively and intently are different in this case. The margins are so close that “not voting for genocode” is voting for worse genocide. We don’t get a choice of not genocide.
There is no such thing as worse genocide. Just because you’re proving that you would vote for Hitler, doesn’t mean you can shame or threaten the rest of us into voting for Hitler.
There is always a choice. Im not voting for genocide.
I know you’re probably just trolling, so it doesn’t matter what I say. But I’ll keep it up anyway, for the slim chance you are just a closed minded child that has been indoctrinated and isn’t actually thinking about anything they are saying, just reacting and spewing whatever comes to mind.
The real world isn’t about what you want to happen in an ideal world. It’s about what will actually happen as a result of your actions. There very much is worse genocide, genocide of more types of people at once, in more places at once, and to a worse scale for people already being genocided. Please don’t let Trump get what he wants.
Yes, of course everyone decent wants what you want… we’re not idiots. But we also can see that there is no path to it. And that trying to get it will just lead to losing the chance to have 90% of what we want instead.
There is no black and white choice in real life, which can be hard to accept for people stuck on black and white thinking(which is actually alot of people, like 10% or so). Trying to make decisions as though something must be perfect to be a good choice, is going to lead to having huge problems because this isn’t the only situation where trying to pick the perfect choice just leads to getting a way worse result. Usually, the consequences will come in the form of waiting and doing nothing because a perfect choice never presents itself. But sometimes people prey on a black and white mentality to falsely present a “perfect” choice, knowing some percentage of the population will have no choice but to fall for it.
Sometimes, third-party candidates are even funded by the other side in order to do this very thing for something as important as an election. So they very well know that it has an effect, if people like that are willing to actually spend money they could otherwise be hoarding.
I’m sorry, child. I’m not voting for genocide.
Well, good luck. Obviously, I hope your perfect candidate gets in, and it doesn’t just allow Trump in like I think it would. I would be very happy if you were right and I was wrong.
But I forsee third party candidates getting 10% of the vote, and those votes coming primarily from Kamala, and then having to live with Trump. Kamala clearly isn’t perfect. No one thinks she is, politics are just broken enough that it doesn’t play out the way you clearly want it to. No matter what. You want third party, make sure they are in a position where they are polling decently before it is too late, or no one will waste their vote on them.
I’m sorry, child, I’m not voting for genocide. That is humanity’s red line. If you want to be the same as a Nazi and gleefully or even sorrowfully vote for genocide, that’s on you. History treats the Nazis that voted out of fear the same as those that voted out of pride.
Ok
The whole idea of the genocide being worse under Trump makes me laugh in order to avoid crying.
People are really justifying Biden and Kamala’s support of genocide by arguing the genocide will be worse under Trump.
I don’t think they realize what they are saying.
The sad thing is I’m starting to think they do realize what they’re saying. They genuinely believe genocide is inevitable and they’re not at fault for choosing to support it.
It’s weird living through a fascist dystopia and coming to understand first hand how “reasonable” people come to outright openly cheer on genocide.