Summary

Democratic strategist Chai Komanduri claims Elon Musk has “taken over” MAGA and the Republican Party, likening it to how Trump originally took control of the GOP.

Musk, a former Biden supporter, shifted to Republicans over disagreements on free speech, immigration, and public health.

Now a close Trump ally, Musk has donated $75 million to pro-Trump groups and will co-lead the “Department of Government Efficiency” to reduce government waste.

His rising influence in GOP politics is seen as positioning him as a potential MAGA successor.

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      12 days ago

      I have a thought that perhaps he’s done the meth, realized how far off the mars goals are, looked at the state of climate and how far gone it is regardless of intervention and decided to hell with all of it.

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        It was always a grift with these guys. It’s almost comical to think they ever cared about saving/helping humanity at this point.

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        That’s something I don’t get. The amount of work and change required to make Mars livable for humans is insane and we still don’t even know if it is possible. The amount of change required to fix our planet’s climate is minuscule in comparison. They want to terraform a planet that is completely hostile to human life and yet we can’t even get our own planet’s average temperature down by 1 degree.

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          Musk is the type of guy who thinks the key roadblock in any problem is that he isn’t in charge. It’s harder to be in charge of Earth than it is to be in charge of Mars.

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          If they were serious about mars then they should be building very large scale very long term habitats deep in the ocean. It’s a lot closer than Mars so if something goes wrong they can improve the design faster. A trip to mars is expected to take nearly 2 years!

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          Coca-Cola’s mission statement is ‘to refresh the world’.

          That sounds a lot nicer than their actual mission ‘to make as much money as possible selling sugar water’.

          Colonizing Mars is not his intention, it’s just a cool sounding thing that he pretends he wants to do for social clout. He’s interested making money and being popular, that’s the extent of it all.

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          To be fair, you dont actually have to terraform a planet to colonize it, theres nothing physics defying with having a civilization of people living in airtight buildings with controlled climate inside indefinitely. It still isnt a solution to climate change for any number of obvious reasons, but I dont know that anyone that seriously wants to see a mars colony start in their lifetime actually intends to terraform the place first. Terraforming gets thrown around casually in science fiction, but to actually reshape the entire surface and climate of a planet that way, even if we had the requisite technology and infrastructure right now, would be a process that would probably take millennia at best and be incredibly destructive to any infrastructure existing on the surface during that time. If you want to build a mars colony now, rather than at some point where we’re ancient history after human civilization has finished what would be to them the largest and longest construction project ever, then you pretty much have to accept Mars’s climate conditions for what they are and build around them rather than try to change them.

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      If there’s anything all these lying rich guys have in common, it’s that they say and agree with the last thing someone they want something from said. They just echo ideas that get traction and ride the wave.

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      He made everyone think he did, what he cares about were the government subsidies.

      BTW: I still see bots on various social networks promote him as some kind of genius, a lot of us got fooled.

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        It’s comforting to think that they’re all bots. The uncomfortable truth is that there’s a type of guy who made idolising Musk as the Visionary Techno-Genius his entire personality, and some of them are still around and posting.

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      ^ this is one of the main reasons I fucking loathe Elon so much.

      Because of assholes like Elon, the epithet “tech bro” is now being applied to anyone and everyone in IT, most especially if they are white males, and that’s fucking bullshit.

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      Nerds know he’s a charlatan. We’re nerds.

      We’d know!

      Elon is friends only to idiots who don’t know he’s a snake oil salesman. Roganites.

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    Thankfully Elon will never be a MAGA successor, and is ineligible to run for president. Let’s deport this felon immigrant back to where he came from.

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      Thankfully Elon will never be a MAGA successor, and is ineligible to run for president.

      You’re also ineligible to be president if you’ve engaged in an insurrection against the United States, and look how that turned out.

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    He is not a “Trump ally”, he is a trump puppeteer, paying for the government that suits him and makes him more money.

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    Sounds like david miscavige and scientology. Out with the old cult leader and in with the new.

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      Very unlikely the US passes a constitutional amendment just to allow him to be. Constitutional amendments are hard to pass even when a majority of people agree on something, and a lot of people would not support allowing foreign-born presidents.

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        Unfortunately, it is not even slightly difficult to imagine a situation where he becomes president. The GOP nominates him because they don’t give a fuck, then 75 million people vote for him because they don’t give a fuck, then the Supreme Court upholds the results of the election and swears him in because they don’t give a fuck.

        My gut feeling is that he won’t want to bother with it because his current strategy is working fine. But good god how different the world could look in 5-10 years. Or months.

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          I will bet money that doesn’t happen. Even republicans have a line when it comes to giving power to immigrants. They’ll find some figurehead to put up instead and Musk will just pull the strings from behind them.

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        Trump will sell him birthright citizenship status just like how he retroactively bought founder status at Tesla.

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    Listening to my small town chatter, where there are many mega enthusiasts, I can promise there there is no love for Musk. I think this guy is out of touch or my community is special.

    And that strikes a nerve about how my area was double abandoned by the Democratic Party. Not only are they unwilling to talk about cheating by Republicans in elections here, but the party does understand or wish to understand the people.

    Is it any wonder many here are seduced by lies? They are not dumb, just desperate.

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      I don’t think maga could ever accept Elon as anything more than an electric soyboy. He can’t just put on a belt buckle and some boots and change his image riding up in a cybertruck. He’s also from Africa, which is the butt of many jokes.

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      They are not dumb, just desperate

      The two are not mutually exclusive. I’d say they’re most definitely dumb and desperate

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    Musk and other bad-news big tech dweebs want to end the concept of countries altogether.

    If they get good enough AI and drones on their side, they might legitimately be able to take down a major military.

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      The military is not going to fall to a bunch of drones unless we spend an entire decade ignoring an arms build up.

      But yeah they’re ancaps because they know they’d be the new kings.

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    Elon is marking Trump, meanwhile Peter Thiel has his hand up JD Vance’s ass. One way or another their agenda will get through.

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    Elon Musk is a right-wing darling with appeal for both white nationalist types and libertarian deregulators. But no one can take over MAGA. Trump is top dog, to the degree that I have no clue what they’ll do once he’s gone from office.

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    Musk, a former Biden supporter, shifted to Republicans over disagreements on free speech, immigration, and public health.

    Let’s be honest here, if Biden/the Dems weren’t so vocal about taxing the rich he’d never have switched. The freeze peach stuff was just a convenient excuse

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      I think it’s more like he felt like Republicans were more likely to punish his child for daring to be themselves and Grimes for daring to leave him. He’s got big divorced-guy vibes.

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      Nah, fuck no. Sure, he’d been self-radicalizing for a while but Musk declared his change of allegiance literally hours after the story broke about him propositioning a SpaceX employee to join the Mile High club with him in exchange for a horse. He saw the #metoo train coming for him and decided to throw in with the guys who see that shit as a badge of honor, simple as.