Luigi Mangione shouts a message to the American people on his way to court:

“This is completely unjust and an insult to the intelligence of the American people and their lived experience.”

  • Ciderpunk@lemmy.world
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    He’s claiming the police planted evidence on him as a attempt to justify denying bail. Specifically he says they planted a large amount of cash that he didn’t have on him ever and has no idea where it came from, and they lied about a waterproof bag he had for his phone, saying it was a faraday cage, and claiming his possession of such an item means he’s too sophisticated a criminal to be allowed bail.

    He knows what’s coming. They aren’t gonna want him to get to speak to a jury because it’s not gonna be a guarantee they convict him. If he gets a not guilty verdict, that would be VERY bad for the ruling class, so that’s not gonna be allowed to possibly happen.

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      Yeah, I’m already extremely suspicious at the convenience of his arrest, given that there has to be a repercussion shown to the ‘plebs’ - can’t have them getting ideas now about the ease with which they could depose their ruling oligarchs and actually get away with it.

      I didn’t know about those details regarding the evidence being planted, so his statement makes much more sense with that context, thank you.

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        I was suspicious the instant they called out the 3D printed “ghost gun”. While certainly possible, it was waaay too convenient an excuse given how that may have swung some opinions about gun safety and control. Now they’re rushing this.

        Keep an eye out for thinly veiled attempts at obfuscation.

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          Whatever happened to it being a Welrod?

          Goddess these news outlets don’t know shit when they publish shit.

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          The “3D printed gun” trope was taken back I think. They now claim that he only 3D printed the silencer. Some gun lobbyist probably donated a wad of cash.

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            That wasn’t a 3D printed silencer in the video.

            If it was, that material is way stronger than anything I’ve worked with.

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              Nowadays, you can print guns out of basic PLA. At least in .22 caliber, I don’t know about anything larger, though I do know 3d printed Glock frames are definitely a thing. A 3d printed suppressor is definitely feasible, as I’ve seen at least 1 design for PETG.

              Now, as to whether or not that’s what can be seen in the video? Who knows. I certainly can’t tell.

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                So I’m not into firearms. Guns aren’t reaaally my thing. However, I imagine with quality material you need a larger silencer for a larger caliber, or a modified design to rapidly reduce pressure. It stands to reason then that with a design less capable of withstanding that pressure, you must then compensate with a larger design even at lower calibers. Someone correct me if I’m wrong, though this then stands to reason that even a .22 would need a much larger design, or a modified design which would by nature increase noise via gas release.

                That said, a silencer doesn’t silence, it reduces. If he was as prepared as we think he was, he’d know that.

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            They now claim that he only 3D printed the silencer.

            It’s shit like this that reminds me how stupid cops are…

            You can’t “3d print a silencer” it would just explode from the pressure.

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              I still remember when they tried to claim a plastic bag seen on footage of Rittenhouse was a “makeshift molotov cocktail”

              1. A Molotov Cocktail is already a makeshift weapon, that’s the point, the poor will always have access to alcohol and fire so it’s the one weapon the state cannot take from you.

              2. A plastic bag would make for a terrible molotov considering it can’t be thrown far and would just burn up in your hands if you tried.

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                A plastic bag would make for a terrible molotov considering

                Gasoline melts plastic and would eat thru the bag…

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        To be fair, I’m not sure if “just arrest anyone convenient and frame them”, is entirely in the wealthy’s interest here. Making an example is one thing, sure, but if you do that and dont get the guy that actually did it, then you have a guy out there who has proven themselves willing to go out and assassinate CEOs, who may well decide to do it again. If you do have the means to catch that guy, then what motivation is there to not just send him through the court system rather than framing someone else? Less risk of a frame up being discovered and sparking even more resentment if you have at least some genuine evidence, after all.

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          Could be both. They may know he is the guy, but they might not be able to say how they know it and by what means (extreme surveillance…) so they just frame him.