• Allonzee@lemmy.world
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    When you take away people’s reason to live, their time, their hobbies, their ability to raise a family, their loved ones, you make those people very desperate…

    …you might not be glad that you did.

    glares in Nick Fury

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      Excuse me, I plan to die at the beginning of the Climate Wars - hopefully in a spectacularly stupid way.

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    For me American prison sounds a lot worse than whatever comes from climate change, so personally I’d pick that.

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      Plus the two aren’t mutually exclusive. You could just as easily go to prison and then just be abandoned there once the climate becomes uninhabitable anyway. Wouldn’t be the first time:

      Back in 2005, when Katrina hit New Orleans, prison guards abandoned prisoners in locked cells as the floodwaters rose chest-high. Several thousand of those inmates were eventually rescued, but then miserably housed on a broken piece of interstate, directly exposed to the Southern summer sun.

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        International history is filled with examples like this. The history of the Russian gulags is probably the most stark example, they were actually pretty decent (comparably) before everything outside went to shit…

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      For now. Give it a few decades when the effects of climate change start forcing people out of their homes, cause widespread crop failure, kill thousands with heatwaves and storms, etc.

      If you’re choice is between

      1. losing your home, starving to death, or in some way dying in the streets

      Or

      1. losing your home, starving to death, or in some way dying in the streets after holding those responsible to account a la the adjuster

      More and more people will choose option 2.

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          For now that’s the case. But if there ever becomes a time when life outside of prison means starving to death, dying in a heat wave or storm, it won’t matter.

          People still have things to lose. But people are losing things.

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        I mean even thinking that that’d be the actual situation for me where I live in few decades vs. spending those few decades and rest of my life in American prison, it’s going to be a very easy decision for me

        I mean, come on. Uncertain future some decades ago vs the certainty that I’m rotting in an American prison for the rest of my life starting now. Easiest decision of my life

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            Yes and that still gives me some decades before something might happen vs spending those decades and the rest of my life in American prison. I mean have you really considered the options here lol

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              I think you’ve misunderstood. I’m talking about the choice that people make when these effects start happening, not a choice now. Of course most people aren’t opting to get violent yet, there backs aren’t yet against the wall.

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                In that case I wouldn’t worry about either choice if it’s decades away. I’d wait and see how bad it gets before making the decision.

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    Why not both? I have a strong suspicion the climate wars are going also be a class wars. Although, if the common folk won’t, getting jailed for war crimes against the rich may never be prosecuted 🤷‍♂️

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    With the suicide rate as high as it is, I’m honestly shocked more people don’t try to take these scumbags with them.

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      Now I just need to figure out which crimes would get me life in Norway without hurting anyone. Maybe that’s not a bad backup retirement plan to be honest…