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    we have no choice

    You are working for free moderating an obviously heavily censored shithole. You have several choices, starting with deleting your account.

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        I’m seeing a pretty obvious parallel to Luigi’s actions in your statement. I don’t think it’s as straightforward as you’re making it out to be

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        Communities become ghosttown shitholes when the moderators work against good faith discourse.

        Not the same day new shill mods are installed, but within a few months. It poisons everything.

        Banning the creators/mods of a sub is banning the people that care most about that sub, and tends to lead to installing mods that are just looking to flex power, which makes the posts and discourse toothless, repetitive, and uninsightful, which makes regulars look for a new home, if they themselves are not banned for failing to regurgitate the only correct opinions as endorsed by the new mods tasked with bringing order.

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      Reddit has come forth saying they will not tolerate mods that try to destroy communities like it happened before. If a mod deleted their account, someone else will take their place. If a mod deleted a popular subreddit, Reddit will restore it and ban the mod. Deleting their account does literally nothing.

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        Deleting their account does literally nothing.

        bullshit excuse. Deleting their account removes them from the equation, makes a statement that they are not enablers of the corporate shithole.

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        Then everyone needs to stop modding for free.

        Which I know will never happen, but that’s what it’ll take.

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          Then everyone needs to stop modding for free.

          The thing any sub with big following has mods that don’t mod for free.

          The narrative steering is not a free service.

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    The fact that so many social media sites have to restrict this sort of thing just goes to show what most people think about this situation. So satisfying to watch.

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          well damn, did not realize that dead ceos and insurance company owners are now equivalent of “sick kids” within the US power structure.

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      This absolutely the right lesson to learn here. Who cares if you can’t discuss it (not literally)? We already know the American people agree. We now need to take the next step to unify the working class and organize so we can coordinate our efforts and exercise actual political power

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    huh

    who would have thought that the front page of the internet could also be one of its many giant prolapsed flapping assholes ?

    not just regrading to this specific issue though

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    Can’t believe the corporately owned, corruptly managed, and heavily advertisement-based website would have so many rules against talking about bad things happening to rich people. That shit’s crazy. Who would have guessed?

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      They let it run for a full week though… the crack down started yesterday today in lock step with the heavy fake news push.

      The ruling class let us have our fun, now comes the dick.

      This has been the largest scale anti elite shill operation and all grass roots.

      Don’t let up now…

      Single payer or bust

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        The ruling class let us have our fun

        Can’t help but suspect everyone was hiding under their desks until the culprit was apprehended.

        This has been the largest scale anti elite shill operation and all grass roots.

        Its certainly hit a nerve. But if you’re talking about large scale shill operations, we just got through a multi-billion dollar election cycle where the candidates argued over their favorite flavors of boot just above the sounds of the genocidal meat grinder whirring.

        Single payer or bust

        Can’t stop, won’t stop, until the entire for-profit hospital system is publicly owned and operated.

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          But if you’re talking about large scale shill operations, we just got through a multi-billion dollar election cycle where the candidates argued over their favorite flavors of boot just above the sounds of the genocidal meat grinder whirring.

          You are correct but not grass roots

          Can’t stop, won’t stop, until the entire for-profit hospital system is publicly owned and operated.

          Can I get an, amen?!

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    “we have no choice but to follow Reddits guidelines”

    There’s another choice, but that would require you to look past reddit.

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      Not that the mods are aware, but if Reddit disappeared tomorrow, I (sadly) suspect most users would go to Twitter or various Discords.

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        Discord I can see but someone who isn’t on twitter in 2024 would look for an alternative to Reddit there…? I don’t see the logic.

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          I’ve thought about it as some of my niche interests have dried up on Reddit and apparently only live on Twitter now.

          And maybe Discord. It’s hard to tell because it’s closed, but I see hints of discussion spilling out into GH issues or whatever.

          I despise both for different reasons, but where else am OlI gonna go if I actually want to talk with the community?

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            Blue Sky, mastodon, lemmy, maybe threads. Hell, HN if they’re programmers.

            I don’t like threads but I’d say it’s more likely than shitter

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            !lemmyworld

            We have previously asked moderators to remove content relating to jury nullification when this was suggested in context of murder or other violent crimes. Following a discussion in our team we want to clarify that we are no longer requesting moderators to remove content relating to jury nullification in the context of violent crimes when the crime in question already happened. We will still consider suggestions of jury nullification for crimes that have not (yet) happened as advocation for violence, which is violating our terms of service.

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            You can for past crimes, not future crimes.

            The whole statement: https://lemmy.world/c/lemmyworld

            About the manifesto

            If it’s confirmed, I don’t see why not. Depends on the community, of course. I’m sure !lemmybewholesome would remove it.

            https://lemmy.world/comment/13922763

            On the other hand, there is [email protected] that got created recently. This thread can interest you, it talks about jury nullification: https://lemmy.world/post/22973877

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                To determine whether or not an accused individual is guilty there are two primary options in the USA. A trial before a judge who makes the decision, or a trial by a “jury of your peers” where the whole jury must agree that the individual is guilty. A jury of one’s peers means that the people selected to hear the case are selected from the general populace and have no substantial connection to the accused. For example, you wouldn’t put the person’s mother on the jury. The jurors are not required to be lawyers or experts in any field. Just average people.

                If you just wanted some people to take the facts of the case and the facts of the law and determine whether or not the accused was guilty, then you would want experts and lawyers on the jury. That’s how trials used to be hundreds of years ago. A judge, often appointed by a king, would pass sentence over the peons brought before him. Since our legal system has average everyday people as jurors, clearly they are supposed to do more than that.

                This is where jury nullification comes in. The jurors not only judge based on the facts of the case, but also on whether or not the law in question is just. If an individual is accused of a crime, and is clearly in violation of the law, the juror can still find them not guilty if the law in question is unjust. In essence, the jurors nullify the law by refusing to convict. For example, during the prohibition era, it was not unheard of for juries to return not guilty verdicts for people accused of selling or transporting alcohol. The jurors thought the laws was wrong so they refused to convict. A much more tragic example was in the deep south where jurors would sometime refuse to convict people of lynching black people.

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          Not true - we’re just not allowed to discuss jury nullification in the context of encouraging someone to commit a violent felony which includes the promise of absolution through jury nullification.

          Or something, idk. It was kinda weird.

          Jury nullification as two English words that can be spoken one after the other, however, is perfectly allowable.

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        Yeah I wasn’t aware of the ol platform enshitification pattern. Hardly anyone was - probably the creators and administors of reddit weren’t entirely aware either.

        We were just a bunch of folks on the net trying things.

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          platform enshittification

          It was called Eternal September back from Usenet days when the Internet was mainly an academic thing and every September old users braced for an influx of freshmen starting new academic year and getting access to newsgroups. I was aware shit was reddit’s final form even back in 2006. I’m actually surprised the shareholders left it unmolested for so long.

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            When the students came in and got on Usenet, that was just regular September. Eternal September when AOL or CompuServe, or one of those added Usenet. It was like the kids never had to leave at the end of the academic year.

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            That wasn’t enshittification, just an influx of inexperienced users. Once the corporations got involved, that’s when enshittification truly began.

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    So can I post something that’s NOT Mangione’s manifesto and just change a word or two?

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      “To Nintendo, I’ll keep this short, because I do respect the legacy of what you’ve built. To save you a lengthy investigation, I state plainly that I wasn’t working with anyone. This was fairly trivial: some elementary research, basic plumbing know-how, and a lot of patience. The notebook, if recovered, has some scattered notes and plans that outline the gist of it. My toolkit is pretty locked down because I’ve spent years perfecting my craft in fixing leaks and navigating pipes, so there’s likely not much info there. I do apologize for any disruption or shock caused by my actions, but it had to be done. Frankly, these corporate overlords simply had it coming.

      A reminder: Nintendo has long been a giant in the gaming industry, but for decades, the reality is that they’ve leveraged their power against not only creators but their own loyal fans. The restrictive policies, the aggressive legal tactics, the artificial scarcity—all these tactics are designed to extract immense profits while stifling innovation and community-driven creativity. It has grown and grown, but as the freedom for creators? No, the reality is, this company has simply gotten too powerful, and they continue to exploit their position because fans and consumers have allowed them to get away with it.

      Obviously, the problem is more complex, but I do not have space, and frankly, I do not pretend to be the most qualified person to lay out the full argument. But many have highlighted Nintendo’s tactics—shutting down fan projects, ceasing the production of beloved games without explanation—decades ago, and yet the problems persist. This is no longer an issue of awareness; it is a question of unchecked power. Evidently, I am the first to challenge it with such brutal honesty.”

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        … Frankly, these parasites simply had it coming. A reminder: the US has the most expensive air travel system in the world, yet we rank poorly in customer satisfaction and on-time performance. United is one of the largest airlines in the US, behind only American and Delta in fleet size. It has grown and grown, …

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      You know that one ended with the reign of terror followed by the crowining of a monarch that then embroiled the entire European continent in war, right?

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        You replied to an accelerationist. Don’t threaten them with a good time. lol …or try to teach them; they’re likely a reactionary, too

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        You know it ended millenniums of monarchy and bought in democracy?

        Some people are willing to make risks to see change and improvements. The others are called conservatives.

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          I think it was a good thing in the long run, I’d just like people to temper their bloodlust a bit, lest we fail to learn any lessons from the past. It’s easy to let righteous indignation morph into something distinct but just as shitty as the thing it replaced.

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      If this isn’t the spark, considering the momentum it has, nothing will ever “get French” for them.

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        For a supposedly gun infested and ultra violent country, there is an eerie calm lasting for decades.

        Most probably this was a one time thing?

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          I feel it’s more like ‘nothing ever happens until it does’ statement that I read about. Basically there is a lot of build up that seems like nothing is happening. Then it reaches critical mass and things change. Think the US civil war. The US wasn’t going to free slaves. There was more uprisings and events, like John Brown and Nat Turner, and nothing was going to change. Until it did.

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    I noticed they are rigid with rules, but this goes beyond that. I am now certainly not going back to Reddit! They made an enemy this day.

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      Honestly I kinda wonder if he’s afraid for his own life. He had a lot of people calling for his head last year, and this kind of overreaction seems pretty in line with somebody who is just beside themselves with terror.

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        And this is the guy who said he’d be in charge and possibly owning slaves after society collapses. What an absolute clown! LMAO!

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        Uhh during the Exodus from reddit Spez was telling his employees to not wear reddit identifying clothing outside and to be careful when out in public as they were likely to be attacked…

        As if people complaining and stopping using your platform was already grounds to think your life was over. He’s absolutely paranoid and this likely is just straight up eating him inside since this was more real.

        This is absolutely his response and thinking that it does anything to protect himself to protect his caste.

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          I forgot about that! “Everyone loves us, but maybe for your safety don’t tell anyone you work here.”

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          Uhh during the Exodus from reddit Spez was telling his employees to not wear reddit identifying clothing outside and to be careful when out in public as they were likely to be attacked…

          I’m sure he thought to himself “I’m getting so much negative feedback and hostile attention that everyone else must be experiencing the same thing… right?”

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        If we just send all the offensive words into the memory hole then people will stop thinking bad thoughts about groups of people. We can erase it right out of history and everything will be better. Control the language, control the thoughts. Thanks Ministry of Truth! 🥸

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          Bruh what. I’m not trying to control anything. Just offering an objective fact that you can use how you see fit.

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          Uhh…so you know language is like, a social construct, right? As people have come to realize, “spaz” was originally used to describe people with “spastic” movements from conditions like spastic paralysis or cerebral palsy, it’s fallen out of favour.

          That’s all. No one is trying to control you or suppress your language. It’s just not a great word, and the language you choose reflects on your perceived character by others.

          That said, I’m not here trying to police your speech, speak as you will.