Sure, there are always outliers and you can correct me if I’m wrong, but that’s just the overall impression I have.

(I wasn’t sure if [email protected] or this community would fit better for this kind of question, but I assume it fits here.)

  • TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org
    592·
    12 hours ago

    I’m here because I DON’T want to have to read fucked up opinions. People here are mostly nice compared to mainstream platforms.

    I’m all for difference of opinion, but not when one of those opinions is “we should oppress LGBT people” for example. 10-15 years ago, I’d have been more receptive to discussing opposing opinions, but shit has changed. A lot of those opposing opinions are now simply unacceptable to even entertain, because they’ve become a real, actual threat to my well-being. People aren’t discussing tax policy anymore, they are discussing imposing states of emergency to do some kind of purge on undesirables.

    Some people call it an echo chamber, I just call it chilling and having fun with like-minded people. There’s nothing wrong with that. That’s what forums have always been.

    • Miles O'Brien@startrek.websiteEnglish
      8·
      7 hours ago

      Yeah, I don’t think anyone would ask you “Are you okay with sitting at the bar with nazis?” yet plenty will happily judge you for saying “I’d rather not have to deal with MAGAts and their opinions”

      Sorry but if your opinion is “trans people aren’t people” or “blacks need to know their place” then your opinion is shit and no the fuck I don’t have to listen to it

    • cRazi_man@lemm.eeEnglish
      164·
      11 hours ago

      People here are mostly nice compared to mainstream platforms.

      Try disagreeing with the hive mind. Anyone can be nice to someone who echo’s their own opinion. The real niceness of a person is revealed when they can show civility to people they disagree with (I’m not talking about LGBTQ oppressors or Nazis…there’s a huge spectrum of opinions that aren’t extreme).

      • The Snark Urge@lemmy.worldEnglish
        7·
        10 hours ago

        I don’t know. I am still as opinionated and difficult as I ever was on Reddit, but I also turn it around, display civility, and cede points far more often here. Maybe I’m becoming better, but I think it’s just a better situation overall.

        • supersquirrel@sopuli.xyzEnglish
          2·
          8 hours ago

          The version of someone you invite in the door determines the initial trajectory of how that person will act in the community. You can invite in the leading edge of someone’s developing kindness or invite in the ossifying mass of their nature that is threatening to turn hateful and uncaring. No one instance of invitation to a new person (however that may happen, formally or informally) pushes the needle far either way within any one particular person (though sometimes it can radically do so) but the overall integrated effect is a moderate shift of the an entire community towards the better or worse version of the community members. When this effect is used for good people often describe the resulting community space as a community that accepts them for who they are or more succintly is a genuinely safe space.

          Of course, every interaction is in an invitation in some small way, it doesn’t just happen once.

      • Blaze (he/him)@feddit.orgEnglish
        142·
        10 hours ago

        I’m on BlueSky on top of IceShrimp because anything better than Twitter is good to use at this point.

        Let’s see how downvoted I get.

        • Serinus@lemmy.worldEnglish
          41·
          9 hours ago

          I’m also on BlueSky as well as Mastodon, because BlueSky has the momentum right now, and critical mass is important.

          In that same vein, I wish you’d treat LW as you do any other instance. We’re not hostile to other instances, and I think there’s a healthy balance right now. It doesn’t hurt Lemmy to have a bigger, more mainstream instance. I think defederation solely for the sake of defederation does hurt Lemmy.

          • Blaze (he/him)@feddit.orgEnglish
            7·
            8 hours ago

            I wish you’d treat LW as you do any other instance. We’re not hostile to other instances, and I think there’s a healthy balance right now. It doesn’t hurt Lemmy to have a bigger, more mainstream instance. I think defederation solely for the sake of defederation does hurt Lemmy.

            I never advocated for defederation of LW, just for more decentralization rather than have 90% of the active communities on LW.

            You never answered my latest comment: https://lemmy.world/comment/13624614

            Just to make it sure, are you saying that it’s not true that at this moment

            What prevents you from locking [email protected], redirect to [email protected], and get that community more active?

            I can even make you or any other LW mod mod of that community too, I’m not attached to being a mod, I just want communities to flourish on other instances as well.

              • Blaze (he/him)@feddit.orgEnglish
                2·
                5 hours ago

                What good is 4600 subscribers when 754 are active?

                I just checked the updated numbers, now it’s 2.57k monthly active users for lemm.ee vs 958 on LW.

                On [email protected], we actively build the community, we have a best of 2024 post, we opened the moderation posts to any person willing to help, while you keep that community unmoderated with 2 bots as mods.

                Really, I just don’t understand. What are you afraid of? I’m pretty sure that [email protected] had more subs than [email protected] when it was locked down, but it was still okay, because the activity was happening on the sopuli instance.

                I just checked, [email protected] has more subscribers than [email protected] , but the slrpnk community was still chosen when the consolidation happened: https://lemm.ee/post/46935805

                If you’re afraid about losing the people, you just pin a post, point to the new community, similar to [email protected], and that’s it.

                I did everything fair. “Not happy with the community? Create your own, and become the better one!”. I did, everything, and while we’ve had success, the LW staying open hinders the growth of that topic as a whole.

                You ask me to treat LW as any other instance, but no other instance is reacting in that way, preferring to keep some of their communities open when other people actively try to build an active community on a topic that apparently only a few people are interested in anyway.