• GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    I think it was Jack on Roster Teeth that said it best…

    Everyone made their online character for GTAOnline as basically themselves, except Jack, he made a female character. They all start ripping on him and he hits them with “if I’m gonna be staring at an ass for the next 500 hours, i want it to be a girl’s ass.” I think Gavin even asked if it was too late to switch.

    ETA: girls run faster in GTA, so it’s the better choice by any metric.

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      I play whichever gender has the best looking armour when it comes to custom characters.

      I’m not sure people’s arguments about story characters. I don’t put down a book because a chapter is about a female character

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      Idk, my friend also said he played Cassandra in AC Odyssey because he’d rather stare at a girl’s ass than a guy’s ass for 50+ hours, but now she flies the ol’ blue-pink-white-pink-blue in her living room so idk what to think.

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          I don’t really need to think harder, she actually said that always choosing female characters in games is just yet another thing that started making sense when she realized she’s trans.

          I just wanted to make a clever comment smoothly transitioning from calling my friend a “he” to calling her a “she”

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      I choose female characters in games all the time, and this is one of the reasons for sure.

      Not online games where you create your avatar though…

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        I’ve seen it said that people create three types of characters in online character creation: first is just themselves. We’ve all done it. Second is a celebrity or character from an IP. Think of all the Shreks, Peter Griffins and Samuel Jackson’s that were being shared when baldurs gate 3 came out. Third is an unholy monstrosity that’s just every slider at the extremes.

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          While I’ve definitely done #3, my go-to is usually creating a character for a sort of half-hearted roleplay of an OC. They usually don’t look like me, but they’re always a beautiful woman.

          I really enjoy doing it as a creative outlet. I’ve made quite a few “characters” that I don’t even have save files for yet. When I start a game that has a complex character creator, I usually spend like 30 minutes in it.

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          Third is an unholy monstrosity that’s just every slider at the extremes

          This is what I generally do these days. I mentioned it in another comment, but I love hitting random over and over in a From Software game character creator to get the most hideous creations imaginable.

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            As a nearly decades long veteran of Ark, I’m beyond familiar with characters that look like an amalgamation of Jabba the Hutt and a russet potato.

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              Ahhh, Ark. I didn’t really enjoy the grind, but good god - every dev should take notes from that fucking character creator.

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          Yes, I’ve been the third for many years. I’ll be damned if I don’t take off my helmet in any soulsborne-ring game and my nose doesn’t like like a fucking battleaxe.

          Speaking of which, Capcoms new character creator is pretty good.

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    Transgender man here - the only game I can think of playing that let me be a transgender man was Dream Daddy. I think the Life is Strange director made a game with a trans guy too? I think the Dragon Age series has a side character. If anyone has any other good ones I’d love to hear about them.

    Strangely, I have had no problem playing games with male or female characters. Stories have protagonists who are not like me. That’s why they are interesting.

    Like I don’t think there was a game that let you play a black woman until 1992 with The Elder Scrolls: Arena. We can have a white female protagonist in one game in a series.

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      Cyberpunk 2077 let’s you change genitals, but still forces you to be either female or male with no impact on romance

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      Same! If I had to play games where characters were all me I just wouldn’t play games lol. I definitely don’t mind playing and learning new interesting characters as well

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      Baldur’s Gate 3 lets you customize gender, voice, body type, and genitals all independent of each other.

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      I’m pretty sure I read that the new Dragon Age gives you an opportunity to make your character explicitly trans. Not just with character creation, but an actual dialogue choice that has an effect on how people refer to you

      Here’s an article about it. I haven’t played it yet, so I can’t really offer any other insight

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    What do you people expect from Twitter?

    I know, the post with whopping 11 likes is extremely important and this whole thread is absolutely not just a rage bait.

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    Why are we sitting here discussing a troll? That’s the most obvious bait I’ve ever seen.

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      doesn’t matter if this particular person is a troll. this is literally a political movement now. being a maidenless loser as a political ideology.

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          while I disagree with 4b because I don’t think it’s going to be effective if South Korea is any indication… it most certainly isn’t manless, almost by definition, at least not in the way maidenless is used. maidenless means someone who can’t get a woman. 4b is for women who can get and/or have gotten men. otherwise it would be moot anyway.

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    Ah, yes. If she looks like a sex doll, she’s saving the industry. If she looks like a normal person, the game is unplayable.

    Imagine if women did this. “I’m not a middle aged father, I won’t be playing The Last of Us. It just breaks my immersion, should have made Tess the main character. Also, you can see by the design of his nose bridge that they’re making him less attractive on purpose. How can I play this game if he isn’t a double cheeked up Adonis!?”

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      Let’s be honest, this is most probably a riff on the semi-current push for greater diversity in games. That “could” be boiled down to “I don’t see characters with my exact physical identity and want/need this representation”, even if it’s reducto absurdum.

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        I don’t get why it’s an issue period. I’m a black woman, I almost never see myself in a game unless it has a character maker. I have played game, after game, after game with characters that don’t look like me and survived. It’s very frustrating that just seeing a woman as the main character as immersion breaking when that was never a concern the other way around. I know they may not mean it this way, but it’s almost like they can’t see women as people to empathize. People played as a cat in Stray, a wolf in Okami, but they can’t play as a woman because that’s a step too far?

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          Even as a white man, characters in games do not look like me and never have. I don’t have big muscles and flowing hair and all of that shit. I wouldn’t look like a badass in armor, I’d look like Michael Dukakais..

          And I doubt very many games would be all that fun playing as a doughy, out-of-shape, middle-aged white guy.

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      To be fair, Ciri is hot af, so your first point doesn’t even really fit… The whole thing is just a major self-report.

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        I didn’t say she wasn’t hot, I said she doesn’t look like a sex doll. There are posts around where people are already circling this, that, and the third on her face, like they did with Alloy a d whatever her name is from Star Wars. But people always complain when the woman looks normal, even if they’re still attractive. Acting like that doesn’t happen is being willfully obtuse.

        So… Self report because you assumed normal equals not hot?

        Edit: Misunderstood. Was snapping without realizing he was referring to the OP

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    You have to be wildly insecure to even care about such things.

    I’m a guy. I don’t mind playing as a woman at all. I’ve played the Tomb Raider games, I enjoyed Horizon, I played a female V in Cyberpunk, FemShep in Mass Effect etc etc.

    Games are a way to experience something that’s not you or your story. And that’s perfectly fine.

    Heck, if we took that stuff seriously, I shouldn’t play Mario because I’m not an Italian plumber. Or I couldn’t enjoy Euro Truck Simulator since I don’t drive a truck.

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    I have a male gaming buddy whose account is named like tim2299. He names his characters Tim, they’re always male and if possible, the toon’s facial features resemble his real-life looks.

    I don’t get it.

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    This is exactly why I can’t play any of the metroid games. Also can’t play Kirby because I’m not an androgenous pink blob.

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    Have these people even played Witcher 3? Because there you play as Ciri too sometimes. Her moveset was really fucking cool actually

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      Also this is one of the games where you play a character that has personality already, self insertion isn’t intended.

      Geralt of Rivia, Lara Croft, B.J. Blazkowicz, Faith Connors, Alan Wake, Max Caulfield, Joel Miller, Ellie Williams, and probably Doomguy those are all roles that you play.

      In contrast you have games like Skyrim, Elden Ring, Terraria, Cyberpunk 2077, Far Cry, Valheim and most classic MMORPGs, where you have a playable character that you can form to your own design.

      That’s just fundamentally a difference in design. Complaning that you can’t self insert in a game of the first category doesn’t make sense.

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          Yeah he’s borderline, I wasn’t sure if it was a good idea to include him.

          He’s silent, but he has always had a face and was emoting with it a bit even in 1993.

          Now in the latest two titles he’s still silent, and you don’t see his face as often, but on the other hand he has started emoting with actions. For example breaking the screen Samual Hayden is using to try and convince him that it was worth the risk to experiment with the hell powers that flooded in.

          There is also tons of lore describing his motivations and previous actions. In the end for me that tips the scale towards him being a preexisting character that you play as. But I can also see that one can ignore that and self insert pretty easily.

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      Of course not. I am rather confident that at least some of these people are doing it as a false flag. Trying to discredit critics of genuine bad character and game design.

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      Actually thats the only thing i am bummed about. The ‘blink’ moves she had were so fun. Other than that, seems like the hard choices are back!

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      Plus, you get to stare at a hot female ass for most of whatever you’re playing. Playing females is the straightest choice imho.

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      My favorite games of all time tend to be party-based, like Syndicate, the Wasteland games, the original two Fallout games, Baldur’s Gate games, etc.

      So I guess when given the choice, I always play… um…

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      A polarizing question. Me, I always play a version of myself. More muscular, perhaps, or more adventurous. But still a middle-aged dude who is trying to do good. I never feel the urge to play a woman or a villain or anything else totally different from my IRL character.

      And I guess that’s just how it is, right? We each make our own fun in the games we play.

      So the dude in the xitter post is just going to have to sit this one out. I’m sure there will be lots of male centric stories to play in the future, as there always have been.

      Meanwhile, I hope everyone who likes playing from a female POV has an absolute blast with The Witcher 4.

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        I usually play a female. I’ve always considered my character as a companion, a waifu, if you will.

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          You play as a female character and see her as your companion.

          I play female characters because I like to control women.

          We are not the same. /s

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    Meh. If that’s not his jam, fair enough. I like playing women just to be different.

    Lemmy: “FUCK THIS GUY!”

    Two things: It would be insane $$$ to make two versions and no one has to buy the game.

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      Fuck this guy for tweeting it to the company that made the game.

      He could have just not played and shut up about why, but he had to let us all know that he very definitely has a penis.

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        Then it wouldn’t be Twitter.

        To be fair, it’s a selection bias. People who shut up, shut up.

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      Right? It’s a bit cringey but whatever, if he strictly wants to be immeresed as a dude, fine. Personally I find janky animations and repetitive sound effects/dialog to be the worst for immersion.

      After reading it again though, yeah he dumb. It’s not the kind of game where you can create whatever character you like.