• Kwakigra@beehaw.org
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    I’ve never understood why people think the most sophisticated and complex technology humans have ever been aware of is too mundane just because we have scratched the surface of understanding it.

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    You’re an electrified hunk of fat piloting a meat-covered skeleton riding on a damp rock that’s hurling through space and time.

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      Be fair. You are an abstraction layer; a subsystem running on that electrified hunk of fat. There’s plenty of stuff that evolution has delegated as non-conscious functions of the fatlump.

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      It’s weird that we, as people, think that our being or self ends at our skin. And we’re just a consciousness controlling a meat cube.

      What about all the bacteria living on and inside of us? People would die without their microflora.

      What about our subconscious/unconscious doings/thoughts? Are we in control of them? Or are they in control of us? Could consciousness be an illusion? One created by our senses’ interpretation of external stimuli.

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      “At thе end of the day, your brain is just a meat computеr in a bone cockpit piloting a skin robot You think the world makes sense? Nothing makes sense! So you might as well make nonsense!”

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      I enjoy Marcus Aurelius paraphrasing Epctetus…

      “You are a little soul bearing about a corpse.”

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    A CPU is just a rock we hit with magic lightning…

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    “The material, sensuously perceptible world to which we ourselves belong is the only reality… Our consciousness and thinking, however supra-sensuous they may seem, are the product of a material, bodily organ, the brain. Matter is not a product of mind, but mind itself is merely the highest product of matter.” — Karl Marx

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            So you’re saying matter is a product of the mind? Or what “conclusion” are you talking about

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              Why must matter or mind be the product of one another? Why can they not be separate yet interacting phenomena?

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                things conform to law, regardless of the subjects awareness of it, we should strive to learn the laws that govern the universe and leave behind obsolete idealism. Modern science has done a lot uncovering how our brain works and the complex processes behind conciousness, at this point arguing for conciousness as something separate is like arguing that rain is caused by deities.

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                  I would like to see a source that says “This is how the brain creates consciousness.”

                  Not about correlations, but as that being the absolute undeniable source of consciousness.

                  Cause the last I checked it was still a hard problem with no real answer.

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    people don’t like this idea because if that’s all we are, then who is anyone to say that the inevitable equivalent man-made lump of fat with electrical activity isn’t entitled to all the same rights and status that we are

    also jeebus doesn’t want you to think you can’t go on getting punished even after you’re dead

    • 7bicycles [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      honestly I never got this. Same with the simulation thing. What’s it matter if we’re in a simulation or all I ever do is the result of some salty fat firing off neurons? I mean what am I going to do about that?

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        people used to get burnt at the stake for this shit. and dont’ forget how butthurt people got over the suggestion that –gasp– the earth isn’t the center of the universe

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            because when you have deeply entrenched religious indoctrination, ideas about the world, life, and reality that don’t mesh with your “god” are literally personal attacks on your very identity.

            some people care about this shit more than they care about anything else. you should get rid of the assumption that things need to make sense to these people

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              you should get rid of the assumption that things need to make sense to these people

              trust me I don’t but especially if I pick up the simulation thing that also seems to concern a lot of people who aren’t religious. I mean I get the religious people, it’s in direct affront to the axioms you structure your entire shit around. That makes sense to me, even if I don’t share the axioms.

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                the simulation thing implies we don’t have “free will” or that we don’t have control over our life (which we don’t anyway), and that scares people half to death. so, classic denial

  • Dragon Rider (drag)@lemmy.nz
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    Sorry Natural Intelligence bros, but meat can’t think. You’ve been duped into thinking human beings are conscious by Big Omega 3. Intelligence can only exist in computers using real electricity. Not that piddly ion pump stuff.

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      What about photons, hmmm? They’re used for quantum computing and don’t (technically) need “real electricity”.

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        Hmm, still a boson particle, the same as electrons. Organic neurons don’t transmit boson particles, they create a fake electromagnetic field by equalising ions in solution. It’s lame and not real intelligence.

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          Electrons aren’t bosons, they’re fermions. And ions generally do contain electrons unless we’re talking positive hydrogen or negative anti-hydrogen ions. And the EM field isn’t fake (was that part of the joke?).

          Also I was attempting to reference optical quantum computing but light also seems to be useful for classical computing. Thereby adding to your joke not contradicting it.

  • ✺roguetrick✺@lemmy.world
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    Action potential doesn’t do thinking. Thinking happens at neuron junctions and that shits chemical and analogue. The electrical part just moves the data to the next synapse. There are some gap junctions but those aren’t really associated with thinking.

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    code “object-request-error”

    msg ‘Invalid status 503 Service Unavailable for Some(“01/93/da/2e/55/b3/75/2a/84/1c/2ee79309c6b9.jpeg”) - {“message”:“failure to get a peer from the ring-balancer”}’

    lmao so true