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By a 4-3 margin, the Arizona State Board for Charter Schools on Monday approved an application from Unbound Academy to open a fully online school serving grades four through eight. Unbound already operates a private school that uses its AI-dependent “2hr Learning” model in Texas and is currently applying to open similar schools in Arkansas and Utah.
Under the 2hr Learning model, students spend just two hours a day using personalized learning programs from companies like IXL and Khan Academy. “As students work through lessons on subjects like math, reading, and science, the AI system will analyze their responses, time spent on tasks, and even emotional cues to optimize the difficulty and presentation of content,” according to Unbound’s charter school application in Arizona. “This ensures that each student is consistently challenged at their optimal level, preventing boredom or frustration.”
Spending less time on traditional curriculum frees up the rest of students’ days for life-skill workshops that cover “financial literacy, public speaking, goal setting, entrepreneurship, critical thinking, and creative problem-solving,” according to the Arizona application.
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Online charter schools are horrifying. There is no expectation that the teacher know or understand the material they are teaching your child. High school is basically working through an online work book by yourself. Teachers use AI to “look up” answers they don’t know yourself.
It’s hell.
But this doesn’t sound like that. This sounds like a model that is using external tools made by humans like Khan Academy to actually do the teaching and just uses the AI model to process how well the person doing the course is understanding it.
I would be willing to bet serious money that a kid in this program would get a better education than a homeschooler, Because exactly like your earlier point, the vast majority of homeschool parents that teach their kids are fucking morons and only have their kids homeschooled because they’re fucking morons.
I don’t think homeschooling should be the standard we set for education.
I 100% agree with you, I actually don’t think parents should be legally allowed to homeschool unless they get a real teaching education themselves
What the clown car fuck?
The most humane thing about this is there isn’t a teacher getting abused by paying them an insultingly low salary.
Or a student being abused by their teacher. Just a computer.
murricans…
using personalized learning programs from companies like IXL and Khan Academy
That’s not what people usually think of when they hear “AI”… Another Gizmodo headline.
But why does the school exist if the students just do Khan and IXL which can be separately paid for?
School is so unnecessary. Life was great before enlightenment and, I don’t know, modern medicine.
Frees them up for more time cleaning the butcher room floor
My suspicion is students who understand the situation will try to game the system. Like they do with organic teachers, too.
They already do with online charters. Teachers don’t know the material, they just spam AI generated essays and answers. Teacher work loads are so much that they don’t check the responses.
I work in education. Grading is always a burden, yeah. Homework/activities often need to be designed for the students AND for grading load.
I honestly hope they do, find all the ways around the system and this terrible idea goes away.
I guess kids in Arizona won’t know how many R’s are in strawberry then…
Dude. It’s been over two hours. How many R’s ARE THERE? Dont leave us hanging.
Okay but did you fall?
Yes. But not before cheating. Asked my boss as he was passing by. “How many R’s in ‘strawberry’”, I says to him. He almost answered but caught himself. Then he sort of peered upward, thinking. Then he grinned and said, “nice one, rhsjj.” And then went about his day.
I still don’t know the damned answer.
At some point the AI says…fuck this guy, here color this shit and watch this movie. Eventually the student becomes a great painter.
As students work through lessons on subjects like math, reading, and science, the AI system will analyze their responses, time spent on tasks, and even emotional cues to optimize the difficulty and presentation of content
This will be a nightmare for any neuro-divergent students, or really any student with atypical learning needs.
Atypical kids being left behind is a feature, not a bug. There’s a shocking amount of parents even in the year of our Lord 2024 who think we’re “too much” of a drain on schooling.
Theoretically, by analysing the exact needs, and being able to address them individually (in contrast to a teacher, who has limited time, and a whole class of students to attend to), it could do a better job. I mean the whole sales pitch of these systems is that they can attend to individual needs, and not just give you the material made for the average, “regular” student.
We’ll see if it turns out that way. I have my doubts. It needs to have training data about neuro-divergent students, and knowledge how to handle them. And usually AI reproduces bias and stereotypes. Edge-cases are more rare in the training data, and that makes AI less knowledgeable. And that happens a lot. Plus current AI is very limited. I’m not sure if it’s even smart enough to address individual needs. Or feed students with proper facts instead of fiction.
But I don’t think analysing the students behaviour is the issue here. If at all, it’s going to lead to improvements of those AI models, if they collect data about neuro-divergent people and feed them in.
Honestly the thing I’d be most worried about is that kids at that age are learning important social and language skills. Without an adult in the room to interact with, who are they going to learn that from?
Seriously. Teachers aren’t just some machines spewing out lessons. They are meant to be a trusted adult in a kids life. Someone they can learn social norms from and someone they can go to if they need an adult they can trust that isn’t their parents. I can foresee kids who go to this school having a much harder time getting away from abusive parents.
Yes, thank you. I feel like since the AI boom people have forgotten that the purpose of school isn’t just to teach kids to regurgitate facts
I feel like it’s even bigger than that. Since the AI boom it’s become increasingly clear that our society has completely devalued humanity as a social concept. Companies acting like it’s terrible to ever interact with another human. Schools acting like teaching is something to be automated. Dating apps trying to integrate AI to message people for you. Our society is going insane.
I think that dynamic predates AI, at least in it’s current form. As far as I know people have become separate and more anonymous and more alone for some time now. That got out of hand with technology in general. Videogames, surfing the web. Looking at phone screens all the time. And spending a lot of time on social media instead of in the real world.
Though we had people complaining even before that. I think I once read some very old text complaining about kids reading too much and spending their times in a fantasy world.
That doesn’t invalidate the current situation. A lot of that has indeed become problematic. And though there are AI therapists and teachers, I strongly suspect they’re going to make everything way worse than it already is.
I get that it’s the aim but I am gonna be blunt. I never trusted any tracher. I liked a few, but that’s it…and when I grew up, this was mirrored in most of the male group. Girls tended to be more open to teachers, but that’s it. Is it any different today?
I think that’s how puberty works, and not the teachers’ fault. I’m also kinda old and I don’t know exactly how it is today. We had both, some bad ones, some that were unnapproachable and stuck to their role as a authority figure. But we also had some excellent ones. Also some you could approach with your small struggles as a teen and who’d respect and help you, instead of yelling at you. There is both. And always has been.
We had great teachers, don’t take ne wrong. Simply nobody trusted them anyway. Like, once I had a teacher that whole class was ready to throw hands for, yet still, except for joking around, nobody trusted her.
Maybe it’s cultural thing, I dunno.
I can see this being the future…since they voted for it and all.
Let the charter schools try this first. Eventually something like this will be integrated into common education, but the first attempts are guaranteed to be disasters. Let those fall on 1/4 of learning time of a small subset of Arizonian charter school students and not “all California public school students” or the like.
Buncha damned bullshit. Those kids better start reading more literature before those ai fuckwads get started
Today we will learn how to make a pie:
Gather ingredients:
- Flour
- Eggs
- Water
- 10 pounds of dog shit
- 10 gallons of cat urine
Cooking Process:
- Step 1: Mix all ingredients and place in a pan
- Step 2: Add Gasoline
- Step 3: Bake at 9000° Celsius for 12 hours
- Step 4: ???
- Step 5: Profit?
Thank you for this delicious recipe! My great aunt used to make this all the time for our ritual house painting and it always brought joy to the children. Try adding cinnamon or thumbtacks to the pie for extra zing! God bless!!
This recipe is garbage… I didn’t have any eggs, so I used olive oil. I also didn’t have an oven, so I put it all in my freezer overnight. It tasted terrible, although my 2yo liked it. My MIL told my wife to divorce me. 0/5 stars
not quite on-topic, but I hate online recipe sites/comments too
AI has it’s usecases, but it’s not currently at a place where students can be left alone with an AI. This is dumb.
Because I can’t imagine how that could go wrong at all. /s
