“Does he still have your vote?”
“Yes.”
“he literally is going to enrich himself at our expense and do nothing to help you. Nothing but lies to get elected.”
“I mean sure, he’ll throw us all under the bus for a buck, but I can’t vote for the Demonrats they kill babies to make the bindings for Das Capital, they facefuck Santa Claus, and they just legalized beating white Christian men with discarded genitalia from gender surgery for the sin of being conservative. It’s mandatory in Commifornia now. Don’t you even pay attention to Reality™©®!? Sean Hannity said so which means it’s 100% TRUE! It’s like all you do is watch biased media! Sean Hannity says that we conservatives need to work together to get Republicans in office so obviously he’s not biased, he’s one of us!”
it would be comedic to sit back and watch it all implode, if it weren’t for the fact that there are dire crises elsewhere in the world that are flaring and will continue to flare regardless of what looney tunes are going on in America.
Say what you will about 2016-2020. But at least we didn’t have “Russia takes off the mask, shows itself to be a regime of genocidal fascists, and starts full scale war” or “Israel Palestine Thunderdome round 6” like last time. to name a few
Its a dangerous time for one of the adults to have left the room . when it comes to world stability.
Amusing that Russia is the one taking off the mask. Feels like the government of Israel is the one who took off the mask and revealed a regime of genocidal fascists. Putin took that mask off years back.
No, he really didnt. Denialists believed right up until Feb 2022 that he was just a chest pounding schemer too afraid to actually plunge his country into actual war. despite sanctions, we still had a relationship, albeit cold , with russia, now we are more or less at war with each other.
Grandpa was crying about losing his workforce at the factory due to border laws.
Oh sorry did the consequences of your vote come sooner than you thought?
Dumb cunt
“I didn’t think stopping immigration and deporting immigrants would mean not getting more immigrants to work and deporting MY workforce!”
Ummmmmmmm how are Democrats Marxist and how are they traitors??!
Fox news
Alex Jones
More at 6:00
I wish Democrats were as cool as conservatives think they are.
This small vocal fraction of MAGA on social media is so insignificant and irrelevant to most of the people who voted for Trump. There’s absolutely no chance my dumbass aunt is aware of any of this.
Democrats being marxiste !
Homelessness in usa increased by 20% from 2023. Family homelessness increased by 40%. >50% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck. Your side lost because they did a shit job not because people were “fooled”.
That was a global trend due to international affairs. A lot of ruling parties lost this year.
In the west, yes. Globally no.
Congrats on conclusively demonstrating you don’t understand how economies or governments work.
Our side lost because a plurality of people are too fucking stupid to know when someone is lying to their faces.
That is one way of looking at the previous election. Insulting those who voted against you usually does not bring them back to your side. Perhaps you should consider a change in strategy. I’m sure you knew that since you are so educated and superior. You could explain to them “how economies and governments work”. Have you actually spoken to any of these people? No. You just know they are stupid and easily tricked, no wonder they refused to vote for you.
Stfu putibot
I sympathize with a lot of your points but this is what you’re doing ITT:
- Make the most toxic person in the world your party leader
- His example encourages your voters to spread unprecedented amounts of hostility and lies for 8 years
- Go on the internet and act super polite, as if you’ve done nothing wrong and the D’s are all crazy for not being nice to you anymore
R’s are never going to get any reconciliation until they at least admit to the shitstorm they’ve caused (and have just chosen to extend another 4 years). But I don’t see that happening on a party level. All they do is very occasionally say something like “both sides are getting too heated, let’s cool off a bit” which accepts no real responsibility and changes nothing.
Here is what you are doing. Pretending this is all about R’s and D’s, Trump and Biden but it’s not. It’s about regular people living decent maybe even good lives. The current administration did not deliver and lost the election. It’s that simple. You keep pretending like someone owes you an apology but no one owes you anything.
I agree with that too, US politics since Obama’s win has been “status quo” vs “desire for reform” and the D’s lost 2016/2024 by being on the wrong side. But you’re ignoring my entire comment and that’s a big factor in current attitudes as well. Winning the election on legit issues doesn’t mean you get a free pass for bad behavior.
We live in a democracy and the orange man won so apparently democracy disagrees with you. If they agreed then we would have had a different winner.
Don’t feed the troll
Insulting those who voted against you usually does not bring them back to your side.
They didn’t vote against me. The problem is they voted against their own interests. They voted for bigger lies. Ie. Gullible
You could explain to them ….
No, we’ve all seen how logic and reason is futile. Touching base with reality does nothing. Actual experts are dismissed as less important than their echo chamber. Ie. Emotionally driven, easily manipulated
If you could explain to them, the unprecedented levels of fact checking, proven falsehoods, would have stopped this before the first term
Yes reality. Here is reality: record high personal debt, bankruptcies, homelessness, record high immigration for “amnesty”, the funding of foreign proxy wars and when actual citizens ask “please help us” the response is vote for us and maybe we will. That is their reality not that they “fell for big lies”. You are the one trapped in an echo chamber.
Trend since 2011 showing personal debt trending down or flat
data 2001-2022 showing bankruptcies way down. While it isn’t current, it would have to be up hundreds of percent
Ok homelessness was on a steady downward trend until a spike in the last year or two, undoing progress since 2007
Immigration for amnesty does not indicate a problem here but is more driven by problems elsewhere. It’s more difficult (and generally frowned upon) to interfere in other countries.
Helping Ukraine defend itself has generally been the popular choice, and it’s great for the US economy. The war in Gaza may not be popular but we’re not really spending money on it.
when actual citizens ask “please help us” the response is vote for us and maybe we will
One party has been trying to pursue healthcare reform, student loan debt, restore unions, bring manufacturing back to the us, invest in infrastructure and help transition us to a more modern economy, and other wants to distract with pointless trade wars and tariffs while cutting taxes for wealthy
According to Bank of America, the percentage of Americans living paycheck to paycheck has been increasing, with 47% of consumers reporting that they live this way in the third quarter of 2024
Car repossessions are up 23% in 2024 compared to the previous year, and 14% higher than pre-pandemic levels in 2019:
The homelessness rate in the United States increased from 1.75 to 1.96 per 1,000 people between 2022 and 2023, a 12% rise. This is the highest rate since 2012.
They’re just a troll
Yeah, I fall for those way too frequently
The full scale of the finding out part will occur in 2028. Yes, the USA is going to be a massive train wreck with Putin’s Sock Puppet increasing socialism to cover up his failures. For example, farm subsidies in 2017 were around $7 billion and in 2020, he nailed $23 billion. The abused Payment Protection Plan…$953 billion down the drain. We’ll see if the Louisiana bird flu really mutates and busts out of the red run turd hole.
“At least democrats are openly evil marxist traitors”
Mother fucker, HE SAID HE WAS GOING TO DO ALL OF THIS CRAP!! un-fucking-believable!
I thought the whole point was that the dems are liars and the reps just openly say “how it is”. Nothing changed, MAGA did not change their rhetoric. I’d really like to know what goes on in their heads.
I’d really like to know what goes on in their heads.
That GIF is honestly too flattering. More like a child curled up in the fetal position, quivering like leaf, holding a loaded gun, sweating profusely, thinking everything from a housefly to a mote of dust is a’ginnim
Mother fucker, HE SAID HE WAS GOING TO DO ALL OF THIS CRAP!! un-fucking-believable!
Hahaha but that’s when they say “oh he was just trolling” or “wow, you liberals can’t even tell he was joking!”
And it’s not even fucking true! There’s nothing Marxist about the Democrats except for the far right propaganda against them!
The democrats could literally have the exact same platform as the GOP and these brainlets would still think they were “commies trying to destroy muh free rights and guns”. Whats funny is that the Dems arent even too far off from that.
I honestly believe someone could run as a Republican on the whole “it was better back then” train utilizing most of the Republican official platforms from the 1960-1970s. It’s pretty damned close to the basics the Dems have been talking about and not accomplishing because of obstructionism.
It’s clear with modern Rs you don’t even need to explain anything, just say you’re going back to the good old days when the US was powerful, etc. and hijack the current bullshit machine. Then push through the actual platform of the time, with receipts. Force them to face the fact their party has been hijacked.
Shit the democrats could run the exact same platform that the GOP is accusing them of and their voter turnout would explode! If Biden was as based as the GOP wants you tell you he is I would have had no problem voting for him again. The deep state cabal sounds like some cool folks that can get shit done.
I wish the finding out phase were only this bad, tbh. The real shit goes down starting in at least 23 days and only gets worse after that.
“I got swindled by a shyster with a decades long track record, twice in a row! How did that happen?”
I have spoken to a voter of Trump who formerly was in my circle. I honestly asked her what the reason was. Her answer?
“I just don’t like the other party.”
That was it. Now I imagine besides the obvious cultists, that people treated the general elections like as if we’re voting on two sports teams, that people had that same exact reason. “Oh I just don’t like that other party” all while having the blankest of stares, the breeze between their ears and the stoic walk of automated activity as they confidently and blindly voted for the wrong party.
How did the conversation actually go? Because my immediate question would have been “why was that your deciding factor?”
She was sugarcoating her bigotry and here you are questioning everything
Some people hide it? Duhhhhhh.
“my mind generates words to say that make me win every encounter”
“I must fully understand psychology for it is impossible for others to be wrong – perhaps it’s my understanding of the cosmos. Perhaps they are victims of a grand campaign of misinformation. Nobody would disagree if we had the same facts, right? I must retreat to my haven in the mountains and meditate of mankind.”
People are primarily driven by emotion. Some people almost exclusively so.
You can’t really convince people of things with facts and figures. That’s like trying to heat your bedroom by making a bonfire down the street.
We’re all emotional, and all of us sometimes follow our feelings over more rational motivations. But a lot of people are pretty much all emotion, and they vote for bad policy.
Emotions are important to a full inner life, but letting them decide how you behave is a sign of immaturity.
People are primarily driven by emotion
Some people are driven by emotion, some driven by facts and logic. The balance has shifted to the “poorly educated” who are helpless against Putin’s psyops and Republican manipulation - “They are eating the cats”, indeed.
I think it’s important to recognize none of us are immune to emotion. We’re not Vulcans. Some people are a little better about keeping them in balance, but even that depends on factors like “did you get enough sleep?” and “do you feel secure and safe?”
If you stress anyone out long enough they’re going to become more emotional driven and less coolly rational.
Even Vulcans can be emotional depending upon their health and other circumstances. Vulcans still have emotions, they’ve simply learned to keep them in check (pretty effectively most of the time).
The human race can do this too, but we’re nowhere near ready.
This is the perfect opportunity. MAGAs have been betrayed by their leader, and their leader (Musk) is inviting dozens of scabs from other countries to do what would otherwise be high paying jobs for peanuts.
We can turn the Left Vs. Right Dichotomy into a Rich Vs. Poor one. Much better odds
The people at fox “news” won’t do that, they’re the rich and paid by other rich people, and the MAGA masses are too brainwashed by them to listen to anyone else
The convince them that Faux Noise is bad, but word it in a way they’ll listen that doesn’t just sound like “Lib whining” or “Nerd shit”
Openly evil Marxist traitors.
As opposed to the guys doing a bait and switch right? No betrayal there…
