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    To everyone here.

    I know most of you are fed up, exhausted and disgusted. The key is to never give up and roll over. Once you do this the idiots will have won and we we’ll be permanently screwed. We had already gone through four years of Trump’s Idiocracy. Four more years sucks but you need to keep fighting the good fight. We can get through this!

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      We’ve always been permanently screwed, it’s just new people getting added to the screwed side of the equation.

      Better late late late laaaate then never I guess.

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      Oh I’m never gonna stop fighting. They can send my gay ass to the camps and I’ll still fight. IDGAF

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    But then they bitch about China and their wrongdoings in the South China Sea

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      Yeah because a stupid old man wanting to change the name is totally the same as building islands and putting military bases on then

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        It’s done in the same spirit and will go down the same way. You people are just too blind to see the evil these people will put into this world in the next few years.

        Besides that, the US definitely doesn’t lack in overseas military bases.

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        You’re right, but I worry this is an expansion of rhetoric similar to Taiwan. “It’s always been our gulf. They’re using land on our gulf.”

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    Let’s not forget, conservatives, CEOs and all that bunch operate with methods of a parlor magician. The louder they jingle the keys in one hand, the more we should be paying attention to what they are doing with the other.

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    This is not good obviously, but it’s also very US-centric to think that name Gulf of America indicates it belongs to the US. In an alternate timeline it would totally make sense to have a gulf between two Americas called the Gulf of America or even the American Sea. But the US has effectively hijacked the name America

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    But Mexico has 63 more miles of coastline on the Gulf than the USA does. We should just leave it alone.

    Wouldn’t surprise me if this was inspired to circumvent the new ban on oil drilling Biden just enacted. “We’re drilling in the Gulf of America, not the Gulf of Mexico.”

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        Between that and telling Canada they should become a state, I wouldn’t be surprised if we get some manifest destiny v2 trying to conquer the continent.

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      He’s already trying to rename Canada. The US is Canada’s pants, and we’ve apparently shit. them

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    Fine. I’m calling it Gulf of the Americas and reminding everyone that the Americas are the continents, not the country.
    A visionary and inclusive move!

    the increasingly loud hum of cognitive dissonance in the face of a nonsensical reality grows slightly higher pitched

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      Isn’t the entire idea that the Gulf of Mexico is more descriptive than the gulf of America? Mexico only has one large gulf, and from a US perspective the gulf is in the direction of Mexico. The Americas have several «gulfs» so gulf of America makes no sense. Maybe Gulf of the USA? But again in terms of a description that makes far less sense.

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        I’m not sure Trump even knows there’s an area called “the Americas.”

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    This is the first step to annex another region.

    1. Historical Claim
    2. Support separatist or militia in these region
    3. Fabricate or Encourage attack on the border
    4. Impose light economical sanctions
    5. People in such country will get fed up and will increase clashes with the government.
    6. Government start anti-usa imperialism and start military campaign against them.
    7. USA say they are committing genocide or something and question their sovereignty
    8. USA announce special operation to restore peace

    Cycle continue ….

    We saw this in Lebanon, Libya, Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Ukraine and many other countries that the USA has admitted funding different group inside them to destabilize them. But now it seems trump plan or asked to do the same with both Mexico and canada.

    They can justify it with Mexico because of drugs and immigrants, but it is harder for Canada. They US news tried to blame canada for “terrorist” and “illegal immigrants” but it seems they are following the same stories with Mexico.

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      They’ll just claim illegal immigrants represent an “invasion.” They’ll use that as casus belli to invade Mexican territory, and then simply claim occupied lands as spoils of war. They’ll also be able to make a practical argument, “well Mexico clearly can’t manage the border regions. Look at the anarchy there!”

      I don’t see MAGA trying to seize all of Mexico. They wouldn’t want to take the heavily populated core around Mexico City, that’s for sure. But the more lightly populated border states? That would be much more tantalizing. Also, they could justify intervention in the border states as “protecting American investments,” referring to all the factories US companies have built right across the border.

      Relocating an entire industrial plant is hard and expensive. One of the quickest ways to “bring manufacturing back to America” is to simply move the border to encompass already existing factories.

      Canada would be a lot harder to justify, but casus belli can always be found. It just takes one person fleeing to Canada to escape charges for getting or performing an abortion. Suddenly Canada is “harboring fugitives.” Or attempt to relitigate the US/Canada border disputes of the 1800s. Or just claim fentanyl is being smuggled in from Canada. Etc. A casus belli can always be found or manufactured.

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      You lost me at Ukraine. Ukraine was a domestic revolution against a Russian puppet government that acted in defiance and betrayal of the Ukrainian people. The Ukrainians didnt need any help getting pissed off and rioting in the streets when their president stabbed the entire nation in the back.

      that when the shit hit the fan and the Yanukovitch government was about to fall, every regional and global power on earth was scrambling to try to get a favorable outcome while the streets of Kyiv were being fought between a mob of protestors and those protecting the Puppet state government.

      those “phonecalls” that Russian propagandists love to talk about, weren’t quite the Gotcha that they think they were, because dozens of countries were having those same phone calls, it doesnt happen often, but anytime a state government falls, thats actually normal for those calls to go on. Its outside actors trying to put the peices back together in a way that benefits them and their interests. (if you think Western countries having those calls on Ukraine’s future was bad, boy do I have a horse to sell you on what was happening in Russia, Short version, it resulted in a full scale war.)

      People talk about what caused the Euromaidan and who was responsible for it all the time, but critical and central issue they never seem to bring up when they argue about “Big bad Russia, evil CIA coup, etc” is the Ukrainian people. The population of the country where it happened is treated as if it wasn’t a factor with agency at all, that they only revolted because some guys at the US embassy gave them some signs and told em to. that line of reasoning frankly needs to be told to fuck off.

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        I think there is a misunderstanding, the Ukraine reference how a global power “Russia” did the same steps before the military actions.

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          I thought you were insenuating that Euromaidan was a US coup, which is a common Russian Propaganda Copypasta. my mistake.

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        Re Ukraine - literally what Russia did, and will continue to do in every other place they can

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      Love how these commenters are all offended by a thing that will never get off the ground, or be heard again.

      Y’all were around for the first time, right?

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      Hey, tbh, I’m fine with him focusing on things like this and trying to buy Greenland. It’s much rather he spend his time on theater than on actually hurting people

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        This is what Trump does day to day, spouting random made up shit on a whim. My guess is that it was ad libbed and there is no legislation, the whole renaming thing is probably news to his speech writer/diaper changer/whatever they call the person that tries to get him to talk about something specific.

        The horrible shit is orchestrated by all the malicious fucks around him who can focus on one topic for more than 5 minutes.

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        He’s trying to get things like this and Greenland in the headlines so that he can do the actually harmful things without too much notice.

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          No, he has no idea what the real agenda is. He actually thinks this bullshit matters. That’s exactly why he was installed in the position of president.

          The guy is like, literally borderline retarded. Quit giving that asshole credit.

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            You are both right. Trump is the distraction and incapable of working on an agenda. He needs the people in the background. But he is capable of understanding what he is doing. And he likes it.