• DrCake@lemmy.world
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    12 hours ago

    I swear you could introduce UBI and someone somewhere would complain about it not being left enough.

    • A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world
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      11 hours ago

      UBI is only surface-level leftist, it’s distributing some of the wealth while leaving the important parts - property - untouched.

      So yes, I and many others would complain about UBI. I’ve long held it’s an untenable bandage slapped on the gaping hemorrhage that is capitalism.

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        7 hours ago

        You literally just engaged in what the OP was talking about, and here am I joining in as well.

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        And that is the issue. Ada is bleeding to death, and Bob is giving them a rudimentary bandage to staunch the bleeding. You could:

        • Let Bob do their thing, and go get an ambulance.

        • Complain to Bob that this will only slow down the bleeding. What Ada needs is to be in a hospital. Keep yelling at Bob for his shitty bandage.

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          10 hours ago

          You know what the most important thing for proper triage is : my personal feelings /s

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          We are all afraid that Jake will convince the doctor to refuse surgery claimimg the problem is fixed now. He goes on to convince Ada and the world that she is healed and asking for surgery makes no sense.

          UBI is too complicated for a simple yes or no.

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        10 hours ago

        If you know anything about first aid you know that slapping a bandage on is the first step to actually helping the patient.

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          “The real problem with this stab wound is it damaged their liver. Putting a bandage over the wound isn’t going to solve that, what they really need is surgery!”

          “We’re twenty miles away from a hospital, we need to stop the bleeding or they’ll die before we get them to a doctor.”

          “A bandage isn’t going to save them. Only a surgeon will.”

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        10 hours ago

        I mean, if it introduces people to surface-level leftist ideas and gets them onboard, they then can be drawn further to the normal - the left wing ideas. Which would be good.

        I agree with you though that it’s only a bandage.

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      12 hours ago

      Someone somewhere would because UBI is the capitalist techbro idea of a social safety net; it’s a band-aid that doesn’t address the underlying problems in a similar way to how the ACA helps but in reality is a very center-right idea that doesn’t address the underlying hypercapitalist healthcare system.

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      I mean it depends on the context of how UBI is going to get paid for. If it is funded by a wealth tax then I am on board. But that’s not how the powerful proponents of UBI say it should be funded. Andrew Yang would have us take it out of Social Security to pay for it but you don’t hear him say we should uncap Social Security contributions.