So I’m European and am aware that American culture is very different in many ways. Idk if this is just some type of thing about American culture and mentality in general that has always been there or if it is a trend that started recently in the past few years.
I don’t wanna generalize any country and know that not everyone is like this but I definitely noticed this type of pattern.
I increasingly noticed in the past years that many Americans are very hateful/cruel, are lacking empathy, become more and more aggressive and it seems like it’s becoming worse.
I’m not sure if this is maybe related to Americans needing to be “though” or something because I always hear about that the American mentality is pretty competitive and individualistic and instead of saying “we will go through this this together” they often have this mentality “it’s either me or you but it can’t be both who will win”. I mean I’m pretty sure that all these things like this biking culture, driving big “manly” pick up trucks, wrestling, football etc. are pretty prevalent in America compared to other countries and American culture generally seems very loud and direct. I think here in Europe people are way more reserved and I guess the strongest opposite to Americans are probably Japanese people. Maybe American culture is generally more “rough” where they aren’t super sensitive and don’t really care how their words come over and just speak their mind (maybe cause they value free speech so much).
But to me this seems to go to the point where many Americans seem to have this attitude and are very ignorant and arrogant and basically think they’re better than anyone else and they only care for themselves.
And it feels like it’s so extreme to the point where everyone is hating, attacking and bashing on everyone and instead of being stronger united they’re just fighting against themselves and putting each other down and they always focus on the negative.
Especially online it seems like that no matter what the topic is and independent from whether they are Democrat or Republican they’re constantly bashing on someone and baselessly calling them “weak” even though in reality they’re probably the ones who are weak and trample onto people cause they’re obviously dissatisfied with themselves and aren’t able to man-up to face the real issues. You just can’t blame everything on others and have to take responsibility for yourself!
Some stuff that I’ve seen on American news like “Fox News” just seemed crazy where the reporters personally attack and bash on people which is something that would be unthinkable in Europe.
Even though many people were saying that Americans have this “fake friendliness” I’m thinking that even that disappeared in the last few years and they’re becoming more open to show what they really think which seems to be that they “don’t give a f* about you”.
Many Americans that I encountered seem so aggressive like they always need to bash onto something in this toxic way even though they’re actually in a very good position and have a lot to be grateful for. Like in other poor countries people have real problems and are literally starving because they have no food or they have war in their country.
I’m always thinking “dude, you need to chill” cause literally no one is attacking them and they’re fully secure. But it seems like they’re always searching for a fight or something.
It seems like many of these people are so disconnected from nature and become less human and I wonder why they can’t just spend meaningful time with other people being positive and not constantly waste their time with hating or complaining about something. Because this just doesn’t work and in a society with multiple people especially in a world where everything is more connected than ever we need to hold together and have empathy for one and another. That is one of the core morals that a human needs!
It seems like many Americans generally have this “cruelness” about them cause I also heard things that many Americans are physically beating their children and even the fact that guns are popular and legal in America to the point where you can’t even safely walk alone in public during the night or safely send your kid to school and also this general mindset of America is doing everything the best and “America first”. I really don’t wanna bash on Americans at all and only want to share my experience because I just haven’t experienced this type of hate here in Europe in that extreme way and it just makes me very uncomfortable because I feel like this mood is affecting the whole world since American media and influence is prevalent everywhere.
To me it feels like this won’t end well and it feels like it’s just a matter of time until something very bad happens like the second civil war or so and the storm on the capitol might be nothing compared to that. But maybe that’s the only way they will finally learn if they’re lacking these core morals and integrity and they don’t get educated about that in school.
It also seems like they can’t handle critique and can’t admit it/stand to those things. When I once asked a similar question on Reddit the only thing I got back was bashing and personal attacks and I hope it’s not the same here, cause that is literally just proving my point. There needs to be constructive discussions.
why are European Nazis so hateful and destructive in 2025 (Germany, Italy, Sweden, Hungary, etc)?
What you see on TV is for-profit corporate media that is showing what their advertisers approve. Its not an accurate reflection of the society as a whole.
Roughly 30% of the US population are supporters of fascism. Largely this is due to poor education.
I don’t really know why. Since I was a kid it feels like there is so much more hate, so much more Red vs Blue. It feels like everyone assumes if you are republican or democrat that you must be far right or left. Gods forbid there are moderates. Gods forbid you care about your neighbor regardless of political or religious belief or the choices they make.
It feels like “fuck you I’m taking my share and screwing you over” in order to make it in this capitalist society. It feels like philanthropy is a joke, that rich people don’t invest in it unless it’s a tax break. It’s funny we don’t see new buildings built with art or frills outside. It’s just cold, monolithic type buildings which are as cold as the assholes running it inside. Very few companies care about their customers or employees. They just want those quick profits for the quarter. Fuck everyone else as long as they get their share. They expect this profits to go on forever but they don’t realize that it has to end sometime and I hope every one of those companies collapse because of how hollow they’ve become. I know these are weird things to focus on but I feel like they are symptoms of bigger problems. It shows what is becoming a primary value in society which is MONEY MONEY MONEY instead things like ethics or looking at the bigger picture.
And fuck all these politicians who are busy lining their pockets with gold. Gods forbid they act like civil servants or at least vote on what is best for the people. There are industries that will get you fined and imprisoned if you commit fraud or the APPEARANCE THERE OF. Politicians should have similar laws slapped on them. Same goes for the Supreme Court which has become a fucking joke.
I’m sure there’s a lot of little reasons that add up to this shit. I’m sure politicians stomping on education has a lot to do with it. It feels like critical thinking is not a basic skill anymore. Sure we can blame ourselves a little, but is it really all our fault?
And Jesus christ this brain dead social media crap where people just shit all over the internet and post comments or videos full of lies or contraversial crap just to get clicks because of either bullshit popularity or once again MONEY MONEY MONEY.
I do what I can to tolerate and not create this division of the country and to do what I can locally in the political landscape but I feel powerless to make any real change. That powerlessness is frustrating and infuriating. So yeah, when I see one asshole Ceo get taken out I feel a little glee and I hope it sends a message. I don’t wish ill will upon others, but I’m not going to not say “he had that coming.” I don’t know if that is what others in my country feel but that’s how I feel.
Americans have always been hateful and destructive. We’ve just recently been given permission to do those things out loud, with impunity.
2 reasons:
- first past the post system --> everything is good or bad, with me or against me, blue or red, black or white, …
- the initial lawlessness of the pilgrims just continued and permeated the culture
IMO, until USAmericans finally get rid of “winner takes all”, they won’t be able to change the attitude.
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Because our empire is dying
This is factually untrue. At the end of the Trump era, China had thought they had the upper hand on the global stage, but we have put into place more stoppages around the world. So much so that Blinken said on The Interview the other day that whenever he and the Chinese ambassador meet, the ambassador starts off by complaining for 30 minutes on how the West has railroaded their plans.
He also put it eloquently, that whenever parties from other nations come together, there’s always a seat at the table available for America. They want to know our position.
Just like our union of states, it is essential that the West remain a union of nations. If we do not, then divide and conquer could absolutely mean our decline.
I wish I was as ignorant as you
Keep trying to will those thoughts into existence…may work out for you and your party one day.
The west already lost the US now with dickhead’s first electoral victory leading to his second term.
You mean you haven’t noticed the clear degradation of culture?
If you look around you’ll see it’s not just Americans. The earth is dying. Resources are running out and economic systems are reaching end of viability. People are struggling while the corporatocracy fleeces the masses any value left. As this happens people become more agitated, stressed, and radicalised. They blame outsiders, reject science, and embrace misinformation. Expect it to get much, much worse.
I definitely agree. I think this increasing cooperate greed is a global thing and people generally become more depressed. I really don’t wanna bash on Americans as this is just my experience but to me it feels like the amount of hatred from Americans is not even close to the rest of the world. Maybe I’m wrong here but to me it feels like they become less human…
It’s worse for Americans because they’ve been told for generations that they are the greatest in the greatest country. Now they can readily see it’s not necessarily true. The cognitive dissonance creates a much stronger stress.
A bit subtler than that. We still have the largest economy and the strongest military, but the problems we’re facing (both individually and globally) can’t be solved with those tools.
So we’re “great” but we can’t solve these problems… why not? Someone offers a scapegoat or similar “common sense solution”. And if you believe in it then everything makes sense. But for it to make sense you have to get angry.
I think this is a huge part of it but there is certainly a lot of nuance here. We have a phenomenally funded, equipped, and trained military, but in the last 20 years it’s been shown to be only moderately effective at addressing the threats in the world that have a small fraction of the resources our military does with few exceptions (naval might is probably the largest of those exceptions). So even problems we think we should be able to solve we barely can.
There is also large and growing wealth disparity which drives the tribalism deeper and makes many folks dig their heels in to positions that just aren’t based in reality (see anti-vaccine and lockdown sentiment around COVID as but one example). Couple this with the majority of Americans being truly terminally online and being stuck in echo chambers that just further ingrain the basis they hold and it causes a lot of vocal Americans online to lash out irrationally.
I would like to offer OP a view that we aren’t all like this though. For many of us our incoming government, the corrupt people they are tagging to lead our various institutions, the incomprehensibly rich heads of various companies, and the brainwashed cults that worship them all are sources of deep shame. I can only speak for myself, but my friends, close coworkers, and even a few of my family all feel this way. Please don’t write off all Americans because of the loud, obnoxious jerks you have to see in many places, some of us are pretty decent people that really want to make the world a better place and help everyone we can.
Maybe I’m wrong here but to me it feels like they become less human…
Oof, try not to do that. De-humanizing a people is a slippery slope.
If you look at the rhetoric spewed by our president-elect and his flunkies, you can see where many Americans (at least 77m) get their marching orders. Unfortunately, the rest of us are just left to deal with this bad rap because of it. A lot of it comes from, as others said, propaganda in the media - distraction techniques, obfuscation, identity politics - because it sells. This, of course, also stems from our obsession with capitalism - letting the market and million/billionaires do whatever they want because it’s “good for the economy”. We haven’t matured enough to know that what’s good for the worker is good for the economy (or more insidious theories of this being done purposefully to keep us in “survival mode”).
Many of us who are not as you describe are moving out - a sort-of “vote with your wallets” of what country we support. However, not everyone has the ability to do that, and still others have a desire to fix this country. So, don’t paint Americans with such a broad brush because there are many of us who look at those you are speaking of with shame and disgust.
The world as at a breaking point, what happens after the smoke clears will be interesting, assuming we are still alive to see it
The problem is unfettered capitalism. Our leaders are far more concerned about enriching themselves than acting on behalf of their constituents, so we’ve got this really jaded electorate.
And then as a dominant super power in the world, we’ve been targeted with enormous misinformation campaigns, both from our own “news sources” (Fox News is NOT real news, it’s lies and half truths and proliferation of hatred!) and fake internet trolls. All of that on top of decades of political corruption, decades of businesses lobbying in their own best interest and spreading lies to support their position (“tobacco is safe and very cool!” “guns don’t kill people”, “weed is the root of all evil!”, “pEoPlE ARe tERMinatInG 9 mOnTh oLd feTUseS anD bORn bABiEs!”).
Conservatives have always been the temporarily embarrassed millionaires, and once they get theirs, fuck everyone else. Generations bought homes at affordable prices, then pulled the ladder up behind them and fuck all future generations. “Pull yourself up by your boot straps!” is sort of bullshit you get from them, but they didn’t do that at all and they’ve broken the whole system in their favor.
Now conservatives are trying to break our educational system by banning books, banning subject discussion like evolution or slavery, foregoing sex education in favor of the provably bad “abstinence education”. A country founded on “separation of church and state” is pushing harder and harder to make a “Christian nation” that doesn’t and shouldn’t exist. They want a stupid electorate making tons of babies who also grow up stupid and vote for them. The majority of Americans are liberal and have genuine sympathy and compassion for others, so before they wake up and actually get involved, the conservatives have to breed up a bunch of idiots they can convince real easily to vote their way.
All that to say… I don’t think it’s going to get any better anytime soon. Get me the fuck out of this place.
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I gotta say, living in a red state, it definitely feels.like most have gone hollow. I can see the madness in their eyes at work. Its generations of capitalistic abuse, sacrificing ourselves for the profit of the few. I think we have irreparable damage done to our culture’s zeitgeist.
The baby boomers are reaching the end of their lives. They are fearful of death but can’t do anything about it, so they are lashing out in other ways.
For those of you talking about 9/11, do you know that people born after 9/11 now have kids that are entering kindergarten?
I apologize, I stopped reading about halfway through your post.
A lot of the call outs in this thread to delete your social media go outside and touch grass are spot on. You’re way too deep in social media and the 24hr news cycle.
I work in an industry that is very much conservative. Even the devoted MAGA people I meet are generally very nice if you speak with them outside of politics. A handful of the ones that seek out and want to talk politics (which is rare) are calm and I usually can get them to acknowledge the shortcomings of Trump when I start questioning the inconsistencies of his policies.
Our politics have grown courser and more extreme because of social media and the news cycle. The MAGA politicians of the Republican party take extreme positions to get attention. Moderation is ignored because it doesn’t grab headlines.
Yes Republican policies and very bad for our nation. But it doesn’t mean common citizens share those views. Usually it is much more nuanced.
You’re probably right on that one. Unfortunately I have too many insecurities to face the real world💀
HATEFUL AND DESTRUCTIVE??? HATEFUL AND DESTRUCTIVE??? FUCK YOU ASSHOLE!!!
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HOW COULD YOU CALL ME HATEFUL AND DESTRUCTIVE???
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There are still a lot of us around these parts that strive to be kind and generous, it’s just that kindness and generosity doesn’t sell a lot of newspapers.
Those are the best people though and they should make the newspaper imo. Life is too short and valuable to deal with hate, we should embrace being kind to each other more. Nothing better than having a smile because some random stranger did something kind. That is what makes it worth living for me!
Coincidentally, I was on my bike the other day in just kind of a funk. And I was sitting there with a sourpuss mug thinking how no one ever smiles on the greenway anymore, particularly in bigger cities.
And then just like clockwork, as soon as I finished my thought, a guy who I never would have predicted looked over at me with a beaming bright smile. It changed my whole day.
Actually, print media is basically dead. It’s all about clickbait these days!!!
Where’s my million dollars?
It’s not that the country is more arrogant and idiotic (although that’s arguable) but it’s more that arrogant and idiotic messages and people are being broadcast more.
My guess it has to do with their 2 party political system. You have to SHOUT and pretend THE WORLD IS BURNING GAYS STEAL BABIES ALL POLICE IS RACIST EVERYTHING BAD THAT HAPPENED TO YOU IS BECAUSE OF THE OTHER DONT VOTE FOR THEM to scare 1% of voters one way or the other and get political power.
Messages of those extremes make their way over the big pond way way more often than the lady doing a job that she enjoys, having a pleasant evening with her family.
