Killing windows would just be a little happy accident
Windows is done. The only thing that can save it is if they turn it into a spy machine that can do your laundry. Then users will happily give them the keys to their lives and underwear.
Windows feels like a bit of a sinking ship. Not entirely, and it’s slow, but the feeling is present and consistent. I don’t want to keep having to rip apart the OS to remove shit they shoved onto my hardware without my consent. I just want an easyish experience that I can do my shit on, and they aren’t really interested in that it feels.
In comparison to that, alternatives like steam os sounds great to your average user.
Windows: So you’re saying there’s a chance
That “If” is doing some heavy lifting in that sentence. Really interested to see where SteamOS goes in the future.
See that’s how you get people to like you more. Not whatever the hell social media CEOs keep doing.
They don’t care about being liked, they just want to prop up the oligarchy by controlling access to information.
That’s cheeky.
It’s not about killing Windows.
It’s about slowing making G*mers comfortable with the idea of Valve’s own closed off ecosystem.
They have already made G*mers comfortable with not owning their games, loot boxes, micro transactions.
This is just another example of Valve being the money grubbing, monopolistic, anti-consumer company that they’ve somehow got away with for years now.
I usually think that gamers are by and large not critical enough when it comes to valve, but surely if they wanted to make a closed off ecosystem they wouldn’t have based it on Linux and open sourced it
I’m not sure that Valve working to making Linux gaming a smoother experience is a strong example of them being money grubbing and anti-consumer.
Of course, but that isn’t what they’re saying in response to the topic of the post: the question of what the point in making steamOS available for PC’s is. Is it the main reason? I’m not sure it is, but you can be sure that if it isn’t contributing to Valve’s bottom line in some way, it wouldn’t be happening.
I assume the primary reason for Valve supporting Linux is to protect themselves against possible hostility from Microsoft. So yeah, it’s a business decision to protect Valve’s profits; but frankly - it’s also beneficial to everyone who isn’t Microsoft.
Overall, I’m not a great fan of Steam. (And generally it’s me talking down Steam; recommending itch.io and GOG; and sometimes even defending Epic against what I think are unfair attacks.) But here I’m just saying that I don’t really see the negative of Valve creating Steam OS. Although I don’t intend to use Steam OS, I think I’m already benefiting from the support Valve has given Linux to create Steam OS.
Just to be totally clear: Steam OS is a distro for the Steam Deck. It’s great that they based their handheld’s OS on Linux. There is pretty much universal agreement that is a net positive for gamers. Up until recently, there wasn’t a way to install Steam OS on a device other than a Steam deck, except by using third party tools to hack together a bootable version of the Deck’s recovery image. That’s now changed - Valve have recently released generic install images of Steam OS. Hence this post about a Valve dev’s comments about Steam OS competing more directly with Windows, which it previously did not on really any level.
I don’t think anyone in the thread is positing that Valve creating Steam OS is a negative. I and the other poster are saying that regardless of whether the dev’s comments are truthful, the reason Valve has now released Steam OS more widely is money-oriented, not some altruistic act toward gamers. The benefits to gamers generally associated with Steam OS are simply not related to this new development. Steam OS is not an especially useful distribution for PC gamers. For example, it doesn’t include Nvidia drivers like other gaming-oriented Linux distros. But one feature it does have is that it’s inseparable from the Steam ecosystem. And while you could describe Steam as “a games store”, you could just as easily and accurately describe it as “a DRM platform”. In other words, anti-consumer, money-grubbing, etc.
I won’t say I told you so when in four years Valve starts offering exclusives to those using SteamOS.
Unless some major structural changes happen at Valve (Gabe leaves and/or the company goes public), I sincerely doubt they would ever do this.
Gabe. The same Gabe that has profited off micro transactions, lootboxes, and selling unfinished games. That Gabe?
You already have to use workarounds to get non-steam games to work on SteamOS.
Let’s not forget that this started back ten years ago now with the failed Steam Machine concept.
Gabe needs to pay that fleet of Valkyries he has bought somehow.
Yep that same Gabe.
I get it, he’s a billionaire and he’s got yachts. Billionaires should not exist, I agree. That’s a different discussion.
I’m not worshiping the dude, I’m just saying that it is unlikely that he would allow something like that. It is antithetical to Valve’s ethos up to this point.
SteamOS is about Valve not paying Microsoft a license fee. It’s not some egalitarian move by them but a cost saving. From a game dev’s perspective it’s additional cost and effort to port a game, or hope it runs under emulation with Proton.
I am surprised they haven’t used it for cloud gaming yet since that’s where the real cost savings kick in but I bet they’re still saving on each Steam Deck they sell without Windows on it.
In other words, git gud scrub
git: 'gud' is not a git command. See 'git --help'.Sounds like a skill issue
I was saying death to Windows.The killing is more a side effect than the actual goal. Got it.
It’s not about killing windows… but if it were to have an accident, y’know… I’m just sayin’…
Ouch, someone got roasted!
Well yeah… Windows users can still use Steam. They sell games. They don’t want people to switch anything; they wanna sell more games.
And they want to hedge against Windows trying to monopolise the gaming market. You know, the kind of thing government oversight used to prevent in days gone by.
tbh i have more faith in Gabe and val e than the DoJ
Honestly it’s not that Gabe or Valve is a FOSS champion, it’s just that FOSS is the only viable alternative to a potential Windows walled garden, so it’s what they used.
If SteamOS plays a significant role in killing Windows, the credit will still belong to the FOSS movement. They are the ones that laid the ground for SteamOS to stand on, and they are the ones who ensured it couldn’t be fenced in once more.
good point!
