- cross-posted to:
- [email protected]
- cross-posted to:
- [email protected]
edit: As I’m seeing a lot of worry about the impact this will/could have on the community, please be assured we have the same mod team, and will be holding the community to the same standards. the same things that were always allowed will continue to be allowed and the same things that got things removed before will continue to get things removed before. Lemmy.world admins have agreed to allow us to run our community on our terms.
It is my pleasure to announce that effective immediately, we are transferring our community to Lemmy.world! This has been a few months in the making, so my entire mod team is already on board.
FAQ:
Why?
That’s a complicated question with a long answer! The primary difference is moderatorial and ideologial differences between my team and Ada’s excellent team of admins. We are on good terms with Ada and her team, and have gotten her consent to do this. In addition to this, we have had ongoing issues with federation and moderation that has caused a subpar experience for many people on other instances.
How does this work?
Currently, as there is not an easy way to transfer an entire community (trust me, we checked), we are locking the community as mod-only, and moving our focus to the 196 on lemmy.world. For you guys, functionally nothing has changed.
What about the posts?
Well, we tried to transfer them, but there was no real way to do so without absolutely destroying lemmy.world’s federation. For this reason, we are simply archiving this community as mod-only. Everything is staying up, you just won’t be able to post new content. Comments are still enabled, so we will continue to check our modlogs for some time after the transfer has settled.
As for the posts on lemmy.world’s 196, we’re leaving those up too. From this point onwards, all posts made to that community are beholden to the rules you are all used to, but anything pre-existing is getting grandfathered in.
IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, PLEASE PUT THEM IN THE COMMENTS OF THIS POST, AND I’LL DO MY BEST TO ANSWER THEM.
Once again, here’s the link to our new apartment of awesome. (universal: [email protected])
Neutral observation: World’s userbase is incompatible with the attitudes and queer acceptance of nearly any community that originates from a place like Blahaj. Your comment sections will go to directly to shit. You will constantly be embattled by .world bigots. Sea-lioning and whataboutism will be common and things you never imagined would be controversial will be. Given the incoming administration I would stick to spaces carved out for the culture you want to see on a “r/196-like” board.
Yea, the community didnt give consent to be constantly embattled with people from a less queer friendly (let alone queer oriented) instance.
none of you have to be embattled with anyone. a simple report will do.
Unless you have neopronouns, obviously
if you look into my comment history and moderation history you will see that I have never had an issue with neopronouns. The narrative that we are doing this out of any form of queerphobia is false.
Hey, we can both misrepresent why you’re doing this. You’re already doing a great job of it.
??? genuinely confused by what you mean. would you be willing to elaborate?
this is why I have a large team of moderators who are all on board to filter this out. you guys haven’t seen behind the scenes, but there’s been plenty of this on lemmy.blahaj.zone.
Fuck da mods
So I made a new community.
Banner and icon will follow, I’m literally out running errands right now!
Okay to have a backup, but I’m still hopeful we’ll get this one unlocked
Same, I’d much rather not have a break in content continuity and I’m ambivalent on being a mod.
Hope the current one will be reopened. Also using letters rather than numbers make it more difficult to use
Agreed, getting this back is much more preferable. I tried 197-1 but the - was problematic.
Fuck this. I’ll be blocking the
newfake 196 then.Every single post on the “new” community is from a .world user. Maybe its time for me to block all of .world, it was pretty clear from the start that .world is predatory but this just makes me even more sure. They can have fun over there with their meta/threads federation lol
.world is federating with threads?? eww
Yes
:(
I’m sorry, but lemmy.world was the worst possible decision for a place to relocate to. I wouldn’t follow you there even if I could. If you really have to go with a big, liberal instance that will let you moderate however you want at least you should have gone with lemm.ee. They’re not making lemmy monolithic, not as much of a troll magnet, and far more competent at what they do.
Seconding this
I agree with most others that this is a huge mistake, if only for moving to .world. Another larger community being on that instance sounds like a bad idea for the lemmy ecosystem, even if you wanted to move from blahaj.zone. I will continue to post and browse on 196, but if I start to feel unwelcome there, I will make it known.
The problem is that you’re creating more work for yourself, even if you’re as on top of moderation as you were here. If you get the additional reach that you’re hoping for, you’ll have to work much quicker at removing shit content than you did here. Now that 196 isn’t on the openly queer instance, more bigots will feel like they can interact. This could lead to the community becoming less accepting in the long run, as queer people feel less safe and welcomed.
I have thick skin and often run towards conflicts other people won’t, but I know that many users here aren’t like me. If I start to feel it weighing on me, be confident that things have gone too far for most people on this instance.
That’s valid! But we are confident that we’ll be able to stay on top of things. If there were any doubts, we wouldn’t have made the switch.
Like I said, the perception of .world from people here is not good. I changed from .world because most conservative and transphobic nonsense came from there. You will lose a number of queer people in this move, whether you like it or not.
You couldn’t even stay on top of it here. You’re leaving over an instance rule.
Can you link me any examples? The report log is empty, and frankly I read every post most days of the week along with most of the comments, and I can’t think of anything we haven’t taken care of or wasn’t taken care of swiftly.
The combination of not involving the community in the decision, only providing a vague reason and locking the original community really rubs me the wrong way.
BOOOO!
Let us keep our own community right here on Blåhaj!
Would you consider reconsidering?
Wow this is disappointing. Lemmy world seems so massive already which kinda defeats the purpose of federating a bit I feel. Too centralized. I’m just waiting for the seemingly inevitable implosion of world haha.
I mean ultimately it’s whatever, it is what it is and I’ll follow 196 wherever it goes.
Fuck off, dividing a marginalized community over petty shit.
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh no
For the love of god, leave this community here and just create a new mod team instead. This community being on Blåhaj specifically is a big plus for a lot of us
d-do i get a monopoly on non trans communities here??? im not the kinda person who could manage that, yet…
haha congrats ig
im considering making a wish.com quality clone of 196 atm. though the large amount of moderators would he hard to repleacate as I’ve been unable to get moderadors on [email protected]
I’d be willing to do some “grunt mod work” for 196. Actual decision-making and community-building would probably take too much time for me to be reliable on it, but just dealing with reports I could do.