Vincent Oriedo, a biotechnology scientist, had just such a question. What lessons have been learned, he asked, from Harris’s defeat in this vital swing county in a crucial battleground state that voted for Joe Biden four years ago, and how are the Democrats applying them?

“They did not answer the question,” he said.

“It tells me that they haven’t learned the lessons and they have their inner state of denial. I’ve been paying careful attention to the influencers within the Democratic party. Their discussions have centred around, ‘If only we messaged better, if only we had a better candidate, if only we did all these superficial things.’ There is really a lack of understanding that they are losing their base, losing constituencies they are taking for granted.”

“We have set ourselves up for generational loss because we keep promoting from within leaders that that do not criticise the moneyed interests. They refuse to take a hard look at what Americans actually believe and meet those needs.”

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    People stayed home because of Gaza and the economy but yeah it’s definitely because Harris is a woman.

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      They did-fucking-not. They stayed home because she’s a woman. Just like they did in 2016. End of fucking story. The rest is just political writers needing clicks to survive.

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        And angry people in denial who STILL feel a need to parade their concern like it’s a fucking medal.

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        Lol Hillary won the popular vote despite a decade of being attacked by the media. Hillary would’ve been president if it were not for the electoral college. Harris didn’t even have a decade long attack by the media, has somewhat of a momentum when Biden dropped out, and the Tim Walz pick also gained momentum, and there were lots of grassroot donations on the day of Biden dropping out. Still managed to perform worse than Hillary, didn’t even win the popular vote.

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      How many voters do you think can find Gaza on a map?

      But they sure can see that Harris is a woman.

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          LOL. Nice headline there. Not biased at all nope.

          Harris didn’t “back” Israel’s genocide. She just failed to be sufficiently performative in her condemnation of it and failed to distance herself from her own administrations pro-Israeli policies. If you think that’s not all hand-waving and that somehow Trump will be less supportive of Israel’s genocide I have some gold colored sneakers for sale.

          She did condemn it to be sure, but not enough to pass the purity test of those here in the US who felt that that acting against that genocide was far and away more important than preventing Americas rapid descent into a Christo-fascist oligarchy. Which, not incidentally, will happily support Israel’s complete and total erasure of the Palestinian people.

          Well done! Good job!

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        Its more like: “I voted Biden last time and grocerry prices didn’t get lower, oh well I might as well stay home this time since voting didn’t change anything 🤷‍♂️”

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          “didn’t change anything”

          • “that mattered to me personally”

          Which is exactly how you know that all the hand-waving over Israel is largely performative. If you are not affected by domestic issues and the Really Bad Shit about to hit the fan then you can afford to be Very Very Concerned about issues that don’t affect you directly and personally.

          Not all of us have that luxury.

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      It’s a combination of all of those factors, plus others. People try to point to one thing, but a whole bunch of people didn’t vote for her for a whole bunch of reasons.

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        Yeah, in 2016 it was so close any singular failing could have been the one that turned a win to a loss, but after this last one it’s multiple.

        And they all sort of reinforce themselves. Seeing Democrats abandon one political principle and then seeing them being weak on one that’s close to home will make you less willing to accept it’s just a messaging choice. And all of that on top of the general economic malaise and lack of punishment for bad people in positions of power and something you might have let go becomes the final straw.

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      Gaza holds no water, kushner and Jr were on record for seeking to build condos in gaza once it was “cleared out”

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        And yet Trump toured Michigan promising (and making good on said promise, surprisingly) an end to the war.

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          And he just launched a meme coin opening at 25 bln. Apparently rubes live on both sides of the aisle.

          Raids start next week.

          Edit to think he “made good” is a joke. Some conversation from him had nothing to do with months of diplomatic work from real professionals. Biden is still in office btw and any “deals” would have to go through him.

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            Some conversation from him had nothing to do with months of diplomatic work from real professionals.

            “You don’t see all the work going on behind the scenes” is Democrats’ “You don’t know my totally real girlfriend. She goes to another school.”