I never stopped feeling angry that such an epic moron was elected president and used it to enable a genocide.
I’m so weary of this genocide narrative.
Yes, the situation in Pallestine is terrible. Yes, it seems like Biden enabled it.
The thing is, there’s so much more at stake here. Did you see the part people are doing Nazi Salutes now? Or any of the executive orders signed in the last 24 hours?
Things are getting so much worse.
I can only agree. The Democrats are just as bound to the funding of the billionaires as the Republicans, they just have to hide it better in order to have a chance to win something.
The Roman Empire fell slowly, and now it’s our turn. I only hope that true socialism can emerge from the ashes.
It’s hard to be absolutely sure, but I think the chances of him winning were very, very slim.
I know his internal numbers were supposedly very bad, but it’s also hard to say how that stacks up with the fact that Kamala is also POC and a woman and we know that is definitely still a factor, unfortunately.
My guess - and without actually holding an election, that’s all it can be - is that his results would have been worse than Kamala’s.
Joe Biden’s internal polling reportedly showed that Donald Trump was on track to win 400 electoral votes in a head-to-head matchup according to one of the pod save america bros
Yeah I think the Democrats would have lost no matter who they ran IMO. I think Trump won the second that assassin missed and he did the fist pump in front of the American flag. That’s exactly the sort of shit people eat up.
And it’s funny that Biden’s all pissy about it because I think he actually did play it the best way he could to benefit himself personally - by dropping out he wins no matter what. If Harris had won, he’d have looked heroic for stepping aside and ‘putting country before himself’ or whatever, and now that she lost, he can just say “well I would have won if I’d stayed” which you can’t really prove definitively one way or the other.
I think Trump won the second that assassin missed and he did the fist pump in front of the American flag. That’s exactly the sort of shit people eat up.
And the Beast arose from an attack that should have been lethal, more powerful than before.
And I’ll never stop feeling angry that he didn’t decide to step down after one term. The difference is that I’m going to live long enough to see the consequences of that decision.
He should be feeling angry he’s going to be remembered for helping Israel commit genocide, refusing to step aside and let the younger generation lead, and enabling fascism, but his hubris won’t allow for that.
Why don’t you save the country instead of being a moody bitch? It’s entirely possible to do the wrong things for all the right reasons, and still be correct
I love Joe Biden, always have. It seems that he lost a great deal of cognitive function over the last 8 years, and this fact was hidden from everyone outside of his circle, could have been his decision, but again loss of cognition means it also could not have been. The fact that Merritt Garland was sandbagged by Republicans which ended his nomination for Supreme Court Justice at the end of Obamas term, made him an excellent nominee for Attorney General and head of The Department of Justice, but the way he was slow rolling the prosecutions for Trump, when they should have been layups, and the way Garland couldn’t adjust and overcome the Trump lawyer onslaught of tactics to delay, doomed Bidens chances at a second term, and American democracy itself. Joe as President was responsible to oversee Garland, and they both dropped the ball in bringing Trump to justice, but the buck stops with Joe. If there’s anything at all to be angry about, it’s Joe should have protected us from Trump returning, and he failed spectacularly, and now it’s all over.
Garland did what he was hired to do. He slow walked the investigations so Biden could run as second worst to trump a second time.
Garland is a Republican
No, a coward and ineffectual, in which he shares a great deal with Republicans, but Merritt Garland is a lifelong Democrat. There is so much blame to go around, but some secret Republican infiltrating the Department of Justice, convincing first Justice Brennan, then Carter, Clinton, Obama then Biden his lifelong juris for Democratic causes whilst scheming to “one day throw it all away for Donald Trump” is ridiculous. I mean, bay at the moon if you want to, there’s plenty to bay about, but Garland is a Republican is what a child would say, which coincidentally is also a Republican hallmark.
Garland was a republican and a compromise supreme court pick. The hope was republicans would hedge their bets and confirm him. Getting a guaranteed pick they liked in place of a possible Trump pick.
After Trump won Democrats should have dropped Garland like a ton of bricks. Instead they did what they usually do and went all on one their failed compromises position after Republicans failed to compromise.
Garland being a Republican is probably why Bill Clinton put him on the Federal court, playing the long game eh? lol such a long game
The fact that Merritt Garland was sandbagged by Republicans which ended his nomination for Supreme Court Justice at the end of Obamas term, made him an excellent nominee for Attorney General
Why? To “own” the Republicans? Spite is hardly a qualification.
Note: I do not agree with the Orange Cheeto; merely posting the meme.
He’s sad that president Netanyahu is being replaced by president Musk.
“Forced out.” welcome to a primary, Biden. Functional parties have them.
Both shams when we know that the DNC picks their favorite from day one and works with the media to form their narrative. 90% of voters are just looking to be told who to vote for.
Look no further than Kamala. Right up until 21 July, when Biden was facing calls to resign by rank and file Dems every day, we were getting puff piece after puff piece that “Biden still polls better than Kamala Harris,” “Biden is still the best possible candidate.” Well, Biden eventually caved and literally overnight Harris became not only the real best chance, but actually was looking really good. Nothing about her changed. None of her policies changed overnight. The only thing that changed was that she was now the status quo choice and therefore “safe” for the MSM to endorse.
Biden still beat Trump while Harris didn’t.
Maybe he would have the second time too just because he’s white and male.
The debate ended that chance. Fucker was arguing about golf scores with a fascist.
Yeah and over half of American voters voted for Trump.
And when Harris bent over backwards to appeal to the “white moderates” aka suburban conservatives she got less votes than Biden from them, but not that much less. If it was just about her gender and skin color we’d have seen more but the reality is the lines have been drawn and the racists and sexists weren’t going to vote for a Dem regardless, they already have their candidate.
There are racists and sexists in both parties.
What’s worse is that Pelosi revealed in her NYT interview that party leadership HAD AGREED TO AN OPEN PRIMARY.
Biden won his primary.
Here in California, we haven’t had a presidential democratic primary since 2016, and he wasn’t running then. Please explain how he won, when the DNC cancelled the 2020 primary before we even got to vote, and never had a 2024 primary?
There was a California primary in 2024.
- Biden won 3,207,687 votes
- Williamson won 146,356 votes
Other candidates included
- Eban Cambridge
- Gabriel Cornejo
- Stephen P Lyons
- Armando “Mando” Perez-Serrato
- Dean Phillips
I was signed up for mail in voting, and never got a primary ballot in 2020. Got one in 2024 but of course there wasn’t a presidential primary option.
Also how many votes did Bernie get, cause we had tons of Bernie voters here in 2016 and 2020
If the California 2020 primary was cancelled then why are there results reported? (Spoiler, Bernie won it)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_California_Democratic_presidential_primary
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-primary-elections/california-results/
https://www.cnn.com/election/2020/primaries-caucuses/state/california
who did the california delegates go to?
Ah, we’re onto the moving of the goalposts! At least we’re admitting/agreeing that the primary did, in fact, take place.
It’s right there in the Wikipedia link:
Senator Bernie Sanders won the highly desired primary, which bore the most delegates of the entire primary cycle by far, improving on his polling average by 3% and winning 36% of the vote and 225 delegates.[1] Former vice president Joe Biden, however, aided by among others the endorsements of Pete Buttigieg and Amy Klobuchar, also had a much stronger second-place finish than expected and took 28% of the vote and 172 delegates
Further down in the same link
The 415 pledged delegates to the 2020 Democratic National Convention were allocated proportionally on the basis of the results of the primary.
And then if we go and look over here at how the delegates voted for the convention, we can see that Bernie received all those pledged delegates’ votes and a few more. Some mixture of superdelegates and delegates who were pledged to some other candidate who dropped out, but Biden picked up more of those. Now, before you treat that as an “Aha! See! They cheated Bernie!” I’ll remind you that Bernie dropped out in April and the delegates voted 4 months later in August. So even though he dropped out he still received more delegate votes than his popular vote in the primary warranted him. And you might be interested to know pretty much no candidate ever has won the general election after a contested convention, so the smart play for the general was for the I pledged and superdelegates to present a united front in support of the nominee.
But there was a primary. Correct?
Not that I can tell. Especially since none of those names are Sanders, and despite being signed up, I wasn’t allowed to vote.
As you just said in another comment, you opted out of electing a political party preference, which is the same thing as opting out of voting in the primaries.
This is a decision you made, don’t misrepresent it. I don’t complain when I can’t see in a dark room because I didn’t want to turn the light on.
Are you a registered Democrat? Afaik, for all those primaries you claim that didn’t happen, you had to be registered as a party member to actually vote in them. I specifically re-registered as Democrat from independent to vote for Bernie in all of them.
No. My religion prevents me from joining a political party.
So you chose not to participate in the primary.
I’mma be honest: I was going to ask that same question but figured nobody could be THAT stupid.
Kudos for justifiably having even less faith in humanity than I do.
Honestly, I hadn’t even heard of primaries until the 2016 election, let alone that you needed to register as a party member to participate (came as a surprise to me since I went in person and had to fill out a new voter registration thing). My civics classes were absolute garbage in school. I didn’t learn shit.
Maybe you didn’t see the presidential primary on your ballot? If not you should have gotten another ballot, because millions of other Californians voted in the presidential primary.
And Sanders wasn’t running in 2024. He is not required to run in order to hold a primary.
There wasn’t a presidential primary in 2024, I thought we were talking about 2020, when there was one that the DNC called early because of the pandemic. As far as I can tell there wasn’t a primary in CA in 2020 because despite being on the register, and signed up for mail in voting, I never got a ballot. Didn’t follow up due to pandemic.
If those are 2024 vote totals, then they were made up, because we didn’t have a presidential primary. I got that ballot.
I don’t know what you’re talking about. I already linked the results of the 2024 California primary.
And of course there was also a California primary in 2020. Not only that, Sanders won.
I mean that’s obviously a lie. There’s documentation that proves primaries were held. I voted in mine.
Some of them were held. Ours was cancelled and they called it for Biden because of the pandemic. And again, what primary in 2024?
The one my wife and I voted in.
What are even talking about? I voted by mail in both 2020 and 2024 primaries, in California.
A sham primary in which the DNC shut out new candidates, refused to have debates, and then coronated a new candidate anyway.
If the DNC couldn’t stop Marianne Williamson from running against Biden, then they couldn’t stop anyone.
And the DNC doesn’t run debates, they are generally run by the media networks.
The DNC removed delegates for an entire state during the primary, they argued in court in 2016 they didn’t have to respect the voters as a private company. They’ve been actively suppressing democracy in primaries ever since Obama skipped the line.
They removed the delegates of New Hampshire, because New Hampshire didn’t follow the rules. New Hampshire thought it was entitled to vote first even though it was clearly another state’s turn to vote first.
Eventually the DNC ended up reinstating the NH delegates.
I’ll catch downvotes for this, but every incumbent president has a primary that is abbreviated and dominated by the incumbent. Biden is no different than Obama, Bush, etc. That said, you can and should still be critical of the DNC not hosting a full primary when Harris was tapped out.
That’s not an accident though, the party is choosing to shut out new candidates. I think it’s always wrong to do, because it puts even more power over our elections into the hands of billionaires.
Yes. The party chooses to “shut out new candidates” in the sense that the vast majority of potential candidates choose not to run. In large part because the incumbency is either a massive strength or an albatross hanging around everyone’s neck.
And considering primaries tend to come down more to attacking the candidate themselves (since the viable candidates tend to have platforms not too dissimilar from one another with the expectation that the final platform is an amalgam of the front runners anyway), it mostly just serves to provide weaknesses for the other party to exploit.
A biden who had chosen to stand down would have been a very different story. There were definitely arguments for it at the time much as there were arguments against it (the biden years were really good for the country and most of the horrors of it would have been there under any other president). But people are stupid and decided that the local kroger jacking up the prices meant the world was ending and so forth.
You can’t seriously consider what he won to be a legitimate primary.
People were free to choose from a list of candidates. That’s equally “legitimate” as most primaries.
He fumbled his chance by historical margins when everybody was already scrutinizing his capabilities. There was no recovering from the debate. His legacy will be refusing to accept reality and bringing about an era that my generation may never recover from.
Would you have felt more or less angry keeping your promise not to run again Joe? Sounds like a you problem.
I think the anger needs to be focused on the Democratic party leaders and apparatus for being elitist in their thinking ignoring the constituency and losing the blue collar vote. They have increasingly catered to the college educated with predictable results.
They have increasingly catered to the college educated with predictable results.
Hogwash. They have catered to the dwindling number of alleged moderate Republicans. There is no reason that you cannot appeal to both the college educated and those without a degree.
This is the most incredibly selfish thing I could possibly imagine. An old man moping about his inability to cling to power for another minute. As the next generations look on, begging for someone to act.
He paints Trump as a villain (rightfully so) but is so pathetic that he is unable to rise to any heroism. At least go out swinging.
Don’t know what I expected. But it is a slap in the fucking face to hear this.
Maximum age limits should be enacted
To be fair though im in a rather dark mood myself.
He’s angry because he lost his election. I’m angry because I fear we lost our country.
We are not the same.
