• menemen@lemmy.ml
      3·
      2 days ago

      Do you mean that Iran (translates to the land of the Aryans) should govern the USA? Or do you hint towards the Nazi race theories? But I thinkt the only Trump child that could be considered “Nazi approved Aryan” is Tiffany Trump, the others are all half slavic and thus considered sub-humans.

  • Atlas_@lemmy.world
    191·
    1 day ago

    Ok, so imagine that you’re a billionaire and a really smart dude (as claimed by so many people on the internet). And you get into government and appear on TV and want to look good. You might hire a publicist, a PR team, some speechwriters, hell how about a body language consultant. When you go on TV you’re going to project exactly the image you intend to. Anything less would be careless and stupid, right?

    So yeah. This was a Nazi salute. And if you really want to argue that it wasn’t, that Musk doesn’t even know what a Nazi is, you gotta also accept that he’s grossly incompetent and should not be in government at all. Throw him out, we didn’t vote for him.

    • Grapho@lemmy.ml
      61·
      1 day ago

      What a fucking clown show of a state lmao. An empire in such steep decline that even the oligarchs and the politicians are incompetent.

  • octopus_ink@lemmy.mlEnglish
    451·
    2 days ago

    1932 was a pivotal year in the Nazis’ ascent. It’s a terrifying parallel for today

    Leading Civil Rights Lawyer Shows 20 Ways Trump Is Copying Hitler’s Early Rhetoric and Policies

    Here’s the list from that second article. Article goes into detail for each.

    1. Neither was elected by a majority. (not relevant now this was 2019)

    2. Both found direct communication channels to their base.

    3. Both blame others and divide on racial lines.

    4. Both relentlessly demonize opponents.

    5. They unceasingly attack objective truth.

    6. They relentlessly attack mainstream media.

    7. Their attacks on truth include science.

    8. Their lies blur reality–and supporters spread them.

    9. Both orchestrated mass rallies to show status.

    10. They embrace extreme nationalism.

    11. Both made closing borders a centerpiece.

    12. They embraced mass detention and deportations.

    13. Both used borders to protect selected industries.

    14. They cemented their rule by enriching elites.

    15. Both rejected international norms.

    16. They attack domestic democratic processes.

    17. Both attack the judiciary and rule of law.

    18. Both glorify the military and demand loyalty oaths.

    19. They proclaim unchecked power.

    20. Both relegate women to subordinate roles.

      • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.worldEnglish
        5·
        2 days ago

        Liberals deeply, passionately, fervently need to believe in some kind of cosmic justice for conservatives. But I’m surrounded by them deep down in the bleeding red state of Texas, and I’m sorry to report they’re thriving and multiplying.

        Yeah, sure, they’ll bitch and cry like stuck pigs at the mildest inconvenience. But plenty of them still have fat bank accounts and big price-inflated houses they took the mortgage out on 20 years ago when land was cheap and college degrees with minimal debt and luxurious country club style mega-churches subsidized with public dollars and giant families with chubby little grandkids outfitted in all the latest MAGA apparel.

        Like, the idea that you’ve got these armies of Crying MAGA voters who have sucked shit due to Republican policy is delusional. The army of billionaires showing up to the Trump Inauguration so they can kiss the ring and collect another few trillion in next year’s federal spending should let you know exactly how delusional.

        Conservatives aren’t suffering and liberals would do well to stop pretending a friendly government is incapable of jerking its favored constituents off. Just because the last four liberal Presidents fumbled the bag for their base voters doesn’t mean Republicans can’t or won’t happily deliver.

        • DarkFuture@lemmy.worldEnglish
          3·
          2 days ago

          Conservatives aren’t suffering

          They are, they just aren’t aware they are, so in a way they’re not.

          Travel around the U.S. A lot of conservative America looks like a 3rd world country. They suffer. They just aren’t aware, because they don’t travel. They don’t expand their perspective through knowledge. Rural conservatives will arguably suffer more than any other group under conservative leadership. But ignorance is bliss.

          • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.worldEnglish
            3·
            2 days ago

            A lot of conservative America looks like a 3rd world country.

            That’s not “conservative America”. That’s just “America”.

            And what it looks like is an increasingly stratified society, in which obsence wealth abuts horrifying poverty.

            Rural conservatives will arguably suffer more than any other group under conservative leadership.

            Rural conservatives don’t exist in any meaningful number. What you have are rent seeking land barons and suburbanites operating defacto plantations with quasi-legal disenfranchised laborers.

            The plantation owners aren’t going to suffer. It’s the migrant workers and day laborers who will eat shit. None of them are allowed to vote in any real sense.

    • ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works
      6·
      2 days ago

      The normalization and defenses of it, the crying maga soyjack, has been coming from the the major media networks from what I have seen.

      MAGA is stroking it.

      • Crikeste@lemm.ee
        51·
        2 days ago

        If they aren’t in 1940’s Germany supporting Hitler, they aren’t Nazis.

        You can never use history as an example, don’t these people know that?

        And comparisons are illegal.

    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.worldEnglish
      211·
      2 days ago

      I asked the Anti-Duckification League and they say he’s a swan. You’re misconstruing things and frankly we find it a bit weird that you’d read so far into such a banal hand gesture.

      Now, if you’ll excuse me, we need to get back to our primary goal of making the use of the phrase “From the River, To The Sea” a capital crime.

    • Ronno@feddit.nlEnglish
      3·
      1 day ago

      I know you’re joking, but I still struggle to see how that makes things better? We have evidence that the Romans also committed genocide.

      • AlolanYoda@mander.xyz
        3·
        1 day ago

        The nazis modeled a lot of their Reich on the Roman state (the eagle iconography was used by both). The Roman salute was just something else they took from their idea of the Roman empire

        So I’m with you, I have no idea how “it’s a roman salute” is supposed to make anything better

      • 小莱卡@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
        1·
        24 hours ago

        yea im joking, its a very common apologia nazis throw when someone is caught doing the nazi salute.

  • MisterFrog@lemmy.world
    25·
    1 day ago

    I’ve tried to imagine how I would gesture ‘my heart goes out to you’ vibes. In no world can I imagine a down-turned, flat palm, fingers straight and all together at about 45° (Nazi salute).

    Like, if you were to give some one something (your metaphorical heart) you’d hand it over palm up. Or if you’re metaphorically distributing it like sewing seeds you would again, throw it out, palm up, hands slightly closed. Or if you’re throwing it like sand, you would have your fingers apart by the end of the throw.

    In no world, does this make any sense other being a Nazi salute.

    Or he’s the most awkward, weird dude in history. That is also, true, but given his other behaviour, I dunno how this could be read in any other way.

    • ours@lemmy.worldEnglish
      20·
      1 day ago

      Racist “dog-wistling” is dead. This guy does two successive straight-up Nazi salutes after supporting right-wing politics in the USA and Germany and mainstream media still goes “hum, I’m not sure, maybe he’s sharing his heart”?

      What’s next? “Oh no, it’s not a swastica flying over the capitol, it’s just 4 'F’s in a circle”.

  • ngn@lemmy.mlEnglish
    8·
    1 day ago

    i think in a logical society it would have been the other way around (second image would be the first)

  • Internetexplorer@lemmy.world
    98·
    17 hours ago

    You know what’s worse than a guy waving his arm around?

    Women and children actually being murdered in Gaza.

    It’s funny that this gets so much outrage but the genocide in Gaza isn’t causing as much hysteria.

  • NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.worldEnglish
    39·
    2 days ago

    “No, see, it’s not a salute because his hand is tilted .026 degrees higher than that of Adolf Hitlers Nazi salute, so how can you even compare the two things, they’re completely different!!!”