Thata how i learnt. Arch + i3. Broke it a couple times, but learnt alot
Same here! College friends spent hours late night helping me install and configure Arch + i3 on an old MacBook, going crazy trying to get wifi working. Great memories
Same. Time Shift was a god send in those first few months. But that was the only way I was going to learn…
It’s actually how IT career ladder looks from right to left
Why hate on the sysadmin?
Hate? Where hate? I’m working as sysadmin
You put sysadmins below developers.
Let’s abolish hierarchy altogether and agree to celebrate each others’ contributions to averting disaster.
Because the truth is
everybody’s better than management.
Keeping it working versus creating it in the first place.
Well duuuuh, how else will you admin a system without a dev developing the system to admin
Thank God they didn’t try to install open BSD
I switched from Windows to Mint this week and I’m also that derpy dragon
Are you me?! Also just migrated to Mint, and I’m really impressed. Good level of polish, and stuff just works out of the box.
Currently still have it on dual boot, I’ll give it a week or two and I don’t need Windows in that time I’ll move it to my main M2 SSD and ditch M$
I tried it from a USB drive first and when I saw how easy it is I just took the leap and fully switched.
My biggest worry was gaming but even there was no problem at all
Same story! The improvements in the gaming sphere really need to be experienced to be believed. But okay, Steam works great, we know that.
What about stuff that requires EA’s launcher through Steam? Works.
EA exclusive stuff? Heroic Launcher. Works.
GoG? Heroic Launcher.
Ahh, but old disc games that Windows decided to just stop caring about anymore? Bottles. (Not 100% guarantee, but I’ve been IMPRESSED at how easy it was to get something like Sims 1 to play.)
Hotel? Trivago.Now I just hope the Monado project can make some leaps so we can get WMR devices working on Linux. VR is super neat and I don’t wanna leave it behind completely. :( (Still grudging against M$ so hard for that.)
I was you six months ago.
Formated the W10 drive before christmas as I never spun it up anymore. Have fun in Linux!
I don’t even need it to be fun! I just need it to work, and not stuff me full of scummy invasive spyware and bloatware every time an update rolls around.
Having fun is just that cherry on top!
Heh. I just went from a Chromebook to mint.
Honestly baffled by the basics. Currently youtubing how to mount a NFS share from (on?) my NAS.
Not 100% sure if there’s an easy-mode for this one but just a friendly reminder to copy fstab to
fstab.old
orfstab.backup
so you can revert to it if something doesn’t go right. :)Thanks! When I get distracted common steps do go out of the window :)
Yeah may I recommend using something simpler than arch. I would recommend Linux mint if u want something that’s not gonna break every 15minutes and give u headache.
Thanks, I am liking the challenge at the moment.
After over a decade of using it exclusively at home and partially at work I still googled how to add users to a group last week.
I try to remember commands backwards by how they look(<command> <flags> <arguments>), if they are short, have capital letters and so on… Is that weird? If I give up I open the history file or my good ol’ cheat sheet.
You need https://starship.rs/
I did use it but the only real benefit for me as a hobbyist was the git status indicator on the prompt and the easy to configure prompt. The rest of the indicators did not help me since I’m not a developer. Now I just have my custom prompt with colors, and custom git info.
But it autocompletes pretty well, isn’t it? 🤔or was it fish doing that
I quite sure fish has it, but I use zsh without autocompletions, I just press tab until I find what I need. And the fzf history shortcuts for the rest.
Fish does history autocomplete, not Starship — you still have autocomplete using unconfigured Fish, and you don’t get autocompletion by enabling Starship for other shells.
(Tip: Most shells allow you to press Ctrl+R to interactively search through history, meaning you won’t have to open a separate file.)
Oh. My. Word.
I thought I was clever by using
history | grep <bit of command I remember>
I KNEW there had to be a better way!
There’s a lot of docs in e.g.
man bash
.
Thank you, I already have it configured with fzf aswell, and another to search folders to jump to them.
Was it “groupadd” or “addgroup”…? I can never remember xD
usermod -aG group user
mnemonic: user mod append groupgroupdel
,groupadd
userdel
,adduser
😆I ask AI for that
Well yeah. You barely use groups on a personal machine - maybe once and done for audio and VMs, depending on what distro you use - and at work you’d automate that shit, probably have it centralised.
I’m an ex-sysadmin so I guess I get to be the middle head, but blundering my way through the current distro scene after not having touched a desktop Linux install in, oh… twenty years or so, I feel more like the right. I suppose on the one had I had the good sense not to jump right into Arch or Nix, but even more familiar territory like Nobara has its pitfalls. Just today I had to clean up a botched release upgrade because the primary maintainer had left conflicting packages in the repository for an extended period. Not laying blame per se, that’s what you get when you sign on to a one-man effort, but it was a real pain in the butt to diagnose and correct.
Is nobara really more familiar territory than arch? I’d never heard of it before. Arch may not always hold your hand, but it’s extremely well documented.
Nobara is just Fedora with a heavy layer of gaming-focused polish applied. In that regard it’s quite a bit more familiar than something like Arch, which makes a point of not holding anybody’s hand, and (just in terms of ease of use and overall userbase) feels a lot closer to what Gentoo was like back when I last was in this space.
I was heavily in the camp of Debian-based distros back in the day, but Debian proper has never been a great choice for desktop, and Ubuntu’s star is much faded of late, so I decided to give an RPM-based distro a chance before jumping way off into the deep end. I don’t have the time to fiddle that I used to, and (at least until yesterday’s hiccup) Nobara was much closer to “it just works” out of the box than anything like Arch would have been.
Welcome.
Thank you!
You need to end your sentences with “I use Arch btw”, read the Arch wiki for more info
I use Arch btw
That was close…
So… actually (put on fedora hat) it’s a GREAT way to learn!
What I do NOT recommend though is distro hopping with your data and your daily life setup. Namely the safest to learn is main system is stable, easy to setup and fix, you’re comfortable with even if you are not “proud” to claim it on Lemmy BUT the weird stuff you do on the side, it’s on a dedicate harddrive (ideally not even partition, just so that you can even mess that up) and you go LinuxFromScratch of whatever rock your boat knowing your data is safe and if you fuck up you can still go on with your day.
put on fedora hat
I see what you did there
I feel it sould be a Red Hat in this context
This is great advice. Heed this advice, people.
Know what? I’ll add to it. In Windows a power user will often end up screwing around in the registry or system files or whatever to crowbar it into doing what they want it to do…
But if you’re opening a root shell or file-explorer screwing around outside your
/home
folder, digging around in/
? On your daily use machine?STOP. ☠️
- FACT:
PeopleSystems have died and data has been irrecoverably lost by going into this cave. - There’s probably a much less dangerous way to accomplish whatever you’re trying to do!!
- You shouldn’t be poking around things and exploring a working system as ROOT! This is by design!
GO. NO. FURTHER!
These sorts of shenanigans are why you play around in virtual machines. :)
–Sincerely: Someone who manually deleted his writable in-use BTRFS snapshot when trying to free up space, thinking it was an orphan file that the system tools didn’t detect, rendering his system unbootable and unrecoverable, forcing a complete reinstall. (I found this is analogous to the infamously dangerous “rm -rf /” , or thinking you’re deleting an old Windows restore point but somehow wiping
C:\
)If you don’t know what “3-2-1 backup” means. Now’s the time to look that up!
- FACT:
This is how I feel a lot of times. But I did at least have the sense to go for Endeavour rather than straight to Arch (and prior to that, Manjaro and Ubuntu).
I went mint->manjaro->openSuseTW->Arch->endeavourOS
😄
I feel seen.
Psssst. Lots of devs and sysadmins act like they know a lot more than they do. The more you seek to learn, the more you will realize the breadth of this gap.
There are untouchable wizards of knowledge who nobody knows. There are dipshit idiots who should have never been given sudo on their own network let alone for a fortune 500’s domain controllers.
You’ll never be the best. If you put in any effort, you’ll never be the worst.
The first step to being really good at something is being willing to be really bad at something while you practice.
‘Suckin’ at somethin is the first step being sorta good at something’ - Jake the dog
If you’ve got the drive to learn, there’s no better way to learn than by doing, and there’s a lot of doing in Arch, especially on your first couple of installs. Welcome to the club.
Absolutly me
But i think the starting OS depends on the person.
I never would give Arch to my grandmother or something but most of my siblings would be better off with arch than mint. But even then there could be poeple that would be happier with another distro that is not a rolling release