They are going to be stuck rehiring people that resign as consultants because they won’t have the people to run the legally required programs in place.
It will end up costing more money for the government.
I have little hope that the people that actually vote will even remember how fucked all this is two years from now.
I’m pretty sure the idea is to get rid of dissenters in an easy and legal way, while keeping those like-minded individuals who will toe the line.
I think the idea is to scare dissenters into quitting, because otherwise their position may get downsized otherwise and they lose out on any benefits and pension.
Most federal civilian employees are now on a 401(k) equivalent.
Air Traffic likes to mention how they are one of the ones left with a pension, but clearly, nothing is guaranteed.
We get both. A 401k equivalent called TSP (Thrift Savings Plan) and FERS. People hired after a certain year ( i wanna say 2011 or 2013) pay substantially more into FERS than people hired before (less than 1% vs 4.3% of pay). I don’t expect either to pay out in my lifetime tbh.
TSP is also unique in that you can take a loan from it directly, not using it as colateral. Any interest paid goes right back into your TSP.
Neither of those are unique from a majority of 401(k) plans in the U.S - taking out a loan against it included.
You’ll still take a sizeable tax hit on an early distribution from any retirement plan - TSP included. You should be able to do a direct rollover to any active 401(k), 403(b), or IRA penalty free.
I worked in the government for 5 years, and a financial planning firm for just about 2.
“legally required programs”? What law? Show me where that matters. Who will enforce such laws when all of the people running these programs are gone?
I know why Trump appeals to so many people. He’s the politician/business who acknowledged that rules are made up by fallible humans and can be re-written. The problem is, when we have similar politicians on the left who try to break the system for the working class the liberals agree that it’s terrible in the same way that they agree that trump is terrible, but the oligarchs don’t see an avenue for profit and so they fight against them as well.
It’s as simple as you need people to actually enforce laws and carry out programs laid out by Congress.
I don’t think you understand how laws work. The laws I work to to support were promulgated in the 1970s after rivers were lighting on fire.
They are complicated to enforce because the companies that cause environmental harm can afford high powered attorneys and lobbyists to prevent them from being enforced.
There is no one working on behalf of the american people to try to meet the intent of many of these laws we rely on - such as those to keep our environment, air we breathe, water we drink, relatively safe. Other than those in the government that have the authority to do so.
I don’t know how all of the other various agencies work specifically, but that’s generally what people are doing in the government
You don’t seem to understand this so you don’t value it. I think once it gets more fucked up, you will. This isn’t a liberal or conservative thing. The laws I work with were put on the books by Nixon. This is a rich stealing from you issue. Not left/right.
The official email reads more as you keep doing your job as you have been through the end of the fiscal year and you can resign. We won’t fire you before that. If you don’t voluntarily resign we might fire you before that. Isn’t a guaranteed 8 months of work better than being fired in three months.
They are going to be stuck rehiring people that resign as consultants because they won’t have the people to run the legally required programs in place.
It will end up costing more money for the government.
I have little hope that the people that actually vote will even remember how fucked all this is two years from now.
I dunno, how does 8 months pay sound more appealing than a pension?
I’m pretty sure the idea is to get rid of dissenters in an easy and legal way, while keeping those like-minded individuals who will toe the line.
I think the idea is to scare dissenters into quitting, because otherwise their position may get downsized otherwise and they lose out on any benefits and pension.
Most federal civilian employees are now on a 401(k) equivalent. Air Traffic likes to mention how they are one of the ones left with a pension, but clearly, nothing is guaranteed.
We get both. A 401k equivalent called TSP (Thrift Savings Plan) and FERS. People hired after a certain year ( i wanna say 2011 or 2013) pay substantially more into FERS than people hired before (less than 1% vs 4.3% of pay). I don’t expect either to pay out in my lifetime tbh.
TSP is also unique in that you can take a loan from it directly, not using it as colateral. Any interest paid goes right back into your TSP.
This is also an option if jumping ship:
https://www.opm.gov/frequently-asked-questions/retire-faq/leaving-the-government/how-do-i-apply-to-have-my-retirement-contributions-refunded-to-me-in-a-one-time-payment/
Neither of those are unique from a majority of 401(k) plans in the U.S - taking out a loan against it included. You’ll still take a sizeable tax hit on an early distribution from any retirement plan - TSP included. You should be able to do a direct rollover to any active 401(k), 403(b), or IRA penalty free. I worked in the government for 5 years, and a financial planning firm for just about 2.
Just think of how you could retire if you put all of that into Trump and Malania coins. Heck, maybe even a Baron coin!
They’ll require that consultants are hired through a company owned by a Trump subsidiary and pocket a percentage of the pay.
this one gets it. This is exactly how Viktor Orban’s system works.
They’ll also ensure those who get hired, share the maga viewpoints.
or that they are too afraid to voice their anti maga viewpoints
“legally required programs”? What law? Show me where that matters. Who will enforce such laws when all of the people running these programs are gone?
I know why Trump appeals to so many people. He’s the politician/business who acknowledged that rules are made up by fallible humans and can be re-written. The problem is, when we have similar politicians on the left who try to break the system for the working class the liberals agree that it’s terrible in the same way that they agree that trump is terrible, but the oligarchs don’t see an avenue for profit and so they fight against them as well.
It’s as simple as you need people to actually enforce laws and carry out programs laid out by Congress.
I don’t think you understand how laws work. The laws I work to to support were promulgated in the 1970s after rivers were lighting on fire.
They are complicated to enforce because the companies that cause environmental harm can afford high powered attorneys and lobbyists to prevent them from being enforced.
There is no one working on behalf of the american people to try to meet the intent of many of these laws we rely on - such as those to keep our environment, air we breathe, water we drink, relatively safe. Other than those in the government that have the authority to do so.
I don’t know how all of the other various agencies work specifically, but that’s generally what people are doing in the government
You don’t seem to understand this so you don’t value it. I think once it gets more fucked up, you will. This isn’t a liberal or conservative thing. The laws I work with were put on the books by Nixon. This is a rich stealing from you issue. Not left/right.
But maybe you are just troll, probably.
If they toss in health insurance for a they will get some people resigning. Those that were planning on retiring in less than 8 months.
Resign now and get 8 months of pay or retire in 4 months and get 4 months of pay… Hmmmmm…
The official email reads more as you keep doing your job as you have been through the end of the fiscal year and you can resign. We won’t fire you before that. If you don’t voluntarily resign we might fire you before that. Isn’t a guaranteed 8 months of work better than being fired in three months.
Lol, “rehiring”. What if I told you that he doesn’t intend to replace them?