Summary
Donald Trump has the lowest approval rating of any newly elected U.S. president since World War II, except for himself in 2017.
While his immigration policies and government downsizing have support, controversial moves—like ending birthright citizenship and renaming the Gulf of Mexico—face strong opposition.
Economic concerns, particularly rising prices, remain a major issue for voters.
Analysts say Trump’s popularity will likely hinge on broader economic and immigration policies, with potential political consequences for Republicans in the 2026 elections.
Lame duck (maybe), so I don’t think he cares about popularity. He’s pushing out EO’s as fast as he can, and many of them are idiotic.
because the dems put out candidates somehow even less popular.
The root of the problem is that too many people view the job as a popularity contest. The most effective person for the job may not have the best personality, or be the one you would like to have a beer with.
Elections are and have always been popularity contests.
Democracy isn’t for picking leaders, it’s the process by which leaders absolve themselves of responsibility for their actions.
“Don’t blame me, the voters put me here.”
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of course its the people who are the problem… democrats blaming voters is pretty standard procedure.
If you couldn’t see all this coming from a mile away and with the experience of living through his previous term, yeah, it’s your own gd fault.
I’m not even a Democrat it’s just how the world views Americans 🤷🏽♂️
and its a great tragedy because i prefer to believe there’s a good will that powerful interests undermine in very sophisticated and underhanded ways. it is the game of a duopoly to split the electorate and set citizen against citizen- we see how identity politics has been revealed in so many ways as either vulnerabilities to be usurped or left as poisoned pills for folks to take up and be delegitimized by. attack dogs aren’t born that way, they’re created… and fwiw, there are a lot of people who just want to have a chance to experience this “land of the free” and all the freedoms and experiences they’re so increasingly priced out of.
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no of course not… i am not a republican or a democrat.
Thanks for chiming in…
conspiracy theory word salad
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keep playing hot potato with decline, your leaders don’t represent your interests.
I literally have no idea what you’re talking about.
- Fascists say they’ll do fascist things once elected
- Americans elect fascists
- Fascists do fascist things
- How could Democrats do this???
It’s both
Republicans do evil things? Democrats are to blame for not having stopped them.
Democrats do evil things? Well, you can hardly blame people for electing Republicans, then.
sorry if i seem one-sided its because of the genocide and the shitshow defacto appointment strategy from the dnc et al… there is a reason the left infights more than the right- there’s a logic to attempting to speak to the side that is ostensibly closer to your ideals. what has yelling at or about trump accomplished, btw?
Republicans are not better on the Israel-Gaza stance, so your support of Republicans must be for some of their other policies such as Racism, anti-choice, deregulations, lowering tax for the rich, etc.
critizing the democrats doesn’t automatically equate to “support of republicans”, you illustrate a big obstacle for reasonable discourse
It does in this country.
The USA is a first past the post two party system.
It literally does mean that. If you talk about all the bad things about the good option, people will pick the worst option. Centrism is empowering Fascism.
If you truly hate the reality of two bad choices, then you should vote Democrat so that they can pass Campaign Finance Reform and other progressive changes to elections to better represent what the people want.
Even if the Democrats never pass campaign reform, if the Republican party gets obliterated for, you know, being absolutely useless, it opens the option of third (now second) party candidates.
it literally does not.
The question was never if Republicans were better, but if Democrats were good enough to override the Republican thumb on the scale.
Nope. The question was which of the two candidates, Democrat or Republucan, would be the best (or least bad, if you will) in each of the elections, from President down.
Because the Republican propaganda machine managed to convince enough people this was a referendum on the Democrats, the Republicans won at every level.
The question was which of the two candidates, Democrat or Republucan, would be the best (or least bad, if you will) in each of the elections, from President down.
You’re fundamentally misunderstanding how elections work in this country. You cannot hold a refferendum on anything when public opinion can be manipulated so easily and the results ignored when they contradict the desires of the billionaire class. Elections in America are a popularity contest designed to designed to diffuse responsibility for the operations of the state from the parties that are responsible to the electorate.
Blaming voters for their choices when neither party ran a primary is just a trick to get the people fighting among themselves instead of demanding better from their supposed representatives.
Consider the presidential election. A simple binary choice was presented to the electorate; the Democrat candidate versus the Republican candidate. There were no other possible results. It was extremely clear to anyone who wasn’t already MAGA levels of devoted to the Republicans, that the Republican candidate would do far worse things than the Democrat candidate, thus there were functionally only two actions you could take: vote for the democrat candidate or vote against the democrat candidate. Abstaining, voting third party, or otherwise not voting democrat had exactly the same result as directly voting for the republican candidate, namely increasing their odds of winning.
Neither candidate should have been standing, both parties should have had free, fair and open primaries, and the whole situation stank, but that was the situation when the polls opened, and voters needed to act accordingly. As I said, the republican propaganda team was in overdrive and successfully fooled a large enough portion of the electorate into thinking of the election as a referendum on the democrats, rather than a choice between democrat and republican, and got them to think along the lines you’ve outlined above. That was enough to shift the election in favour of the republicans, and leave us in the situation we’re in now.
The same dynamic played out all the way down the ticket, giving what is likely to be a catastrophic result for a vast number of people. The argument that it’s not the voters’ fault is disingenuous; no-one was holding gun to their heads when they voted. Yes, the amount of disinformation and propaganda they experienced was extreme, but that does not absolve anyone of their personal responsibility. The fact that neither party treated the electorate with any respect, likewise, does not absolve anyone of their responsibility, nor did it change the nature of the election. The trick was played on voters by the republicans, getting them to think, and say, that the democrats weren’t good enough without considering what the alternative was.
As you say, they want people fighting amongst themselves, and it would certainly be best to acknowledge that the election has passed, and the situation is as it stands. The republicans have a clean sweep of every branch of federal government and many state ones too, and are wasting no time in implementing their worst and more damaging policies as quickly and ruthlessly as they can. Now we have to work out how to protect the vulnerable, slow the oncoming tide of fascism and find a way to start bringing people back together again. The next major round of elections should be in two years, and present an opportunity to turn, or at least, slow the tide that threatens to wash away the USA. Between now and then a lot has to change, but it’s doable, even if the parties themselves do not, but it will take people looking past the obvious tricks and understanding that they usually, unfortunately, only have two options in an election, and now-a-days one is much, much worse than the other.
If Democrats are better than Republicans, then they’re the only option we currently have.
If there’s only one option then the idea that we might have had a choice is merely a delusion.
Half of the one option passes completely different legislature than the other half, so maybe get your delusions checked.
The fact that you’re getting downvotes for this gives me little hope for the future of our country.
Balkanization is too good for the US.
Of course they’re getting downvotes, Republicans are worse for all of the policy stances they talked about, but they’re shitting on Democrats.
As they should, because they (and the rest of the liberals) relied on a capitalist political party to save them.
The USA has 2 options. They picked the worst option because of people like you and them shitting on the better option.
Voting is the process by which governments legitimize their right to rule, and the USA has not had a legitimate government in my lifetime. If there were options then we’d never have been forced into a “choice” of bad or worse in the first place.
The UK sends £185m in military technology, £136m for aircrafts, helicopters and drones, and £30m in grenades, bombs and missiles.
Germany has also authorized over $100 million in military exports to Israel in 2024.
The US is not the only country providing shit to Israel. Stop pretending it is.
So your argument is that because other countries are supporting Israel’s genocide that it’s OK for the US to support it as well? Even if the US was only contributing 1% of the weapons and funding it still wouldn’t be acceptable.
To be clear, Palestine wasn’t a valid reason not to vote for Harris, for as shit a candidate as she was (although marginally better than Biden) she was still significantly better than Trump. But Palestine absolutely was a valid reason to criticize Harris. Backing Israel on this one was one of the dumbest moves the Democrats made in the last election because it would have cost them literally nothing to withdraw funding or even making future support conditional on Israel stopping attacks on civilians (and not engaging in ethnic cleansing which was where this was all obviously heading as we’re now seeing).
So your argument is that because other countries are supporting Israel’s genocide that it’s OK for the US to support it as well?
Absolutely not. But according to everyone here the US is the only one backing them. Yes the US is the largest backer, I know that too. Call all the spades a spade though, not just one.
I agree with your entire second paragraph.
but did you watch the big lebowski yet?
You have a very bad sense for the time and place to say things.
Voter suppression should be somewhere in this conversation eventually too, but, yeah, until the Democratic party sees some huge reforms and dumps a bunch of the electeds and campaign consultants and party staffers that led us to this point they’re going to keep getting wiped out every couple of election cycles
The really unfortunate part is that losing to Donald Trump makes a lot of the most vocal Democratic party supporters completely lose their minds and start attacking anyone who tries to have a conversation about why Democratic candidates lose, so, yeah, expect to get a lot of personal attacks and trolling for saying this
Nothing will meaningfully improve until the rich fear for their lives
Also, until the Democratic party engages in serious reform that throws out the old leadership who keeps collaborating with fascists, slashing our safety nets, and throwing taxpayer money
andat private for profit organizations we’re going to keep getting these waves of fascists taking over every other electione; autocorrect is reactionary /s
He’s the only President to never reach 50% approval, yet he’s been elected twice.
That’s all the evidence you need to know that our election system is broken.
The important thing to remember is that this doesn’t matter at all. If you’re a progressive who is overwhelmed by the state of affairs and looking for a hint of good news, this aint it.
This will affect nothing
We’re fine with kicking out all the Mexicans but don’t you dare call that water something else. Classic America.
He was unpopular when voted in…inconsequential reporting
Don’t worry, he’ll get less popular along the way.
Cool I sure wish my rights weren’t being taken away
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And yet he still got re-elected. We are the dumbest nation comprised of the most idiotic people to ever exist in history.
Let’s just hope that we don’t use that position to terrorize other nations further than we already have
This is what I keep saying to my friends when we argue politics
We can no longer just say that Dumpster Don is an idiot
We can now say that the entire US is one giant collective idiot
The nation is dumb … so is it any wonder that they have a dumb leader?
It makes me so sad. I live here and I feel constant shame, anger, depression. I always say the right is filled with hate, but I find myself hating and it bothers me. I try to understand everyone.
But we’re reaching the point of how much tolerance should intolerant people be shown? And I’m over it personally, fuck anybody who voted for him/not at all and fuck him too.
I hope his old age makes his life extremely difficult.
Ngl, I hope he dies. Soon.
Would it make a difference? His VP is a white supremacist, too, and his party still controls both chambers.
And the VP is already third in command. Fifth if you count Putin and Thiel.
Cults of personality don’t transfer power well, generally. I think that is why Project 2025 was such a big deal for them since it gave structure even when trump dies.
This. The demons behind Project 2025 that hate democracy and hate the Constitution are trying to get as much rammed through as possible because they know he won’t last forever and the likelihood of finding another stooge that has sway over the stupid people like donvict does is not great.
Vance? Elon - even if he could run - Vivek? LOL, give me a break, they have zero charisma.
And these stupid people won’t go back to methadone like Jeb or Romney - they got pure China White as donvict and were mainlining his hatred. I’m not sure if the qons will be able to find another donvict. A whole lot of stupid people saw his dumb game show and really do think he’s a businessman, and that “businessman == good”.
It’s not even the businessman thing though. That is just a smokescreen for the fact that he is racist. Mark Cuban is objectively a 50x better capitalist businessman than trump ever was. He campaigned for Harris and all of the “strong businessmen best” people completely did a 180.
It is 100% only hatred and wanting certain people to die and every single other thing they say they care about is a smokescreen as proven by their own actions. Like how now the price of everything suddenly doesn’t matter, because the “right” people are getting hurt.
Just like how DOGE doesn’t actually go after inefficiencies like the extremely corrupt and inefficient military contractor sector but instead goes for things that hurt black people more like school lunches for 6 year olds.
His death would provide America’s favorite gender-neutral toilet, so that’s something.
Sadly worst ones seem to live the longest 😭
Chin up! There’s always operation Valkyrie 2.0
True but hopefully done with a much better plan lol
Doesn’t matter. The GOP hold all three branches of government and will do whatever he tells them to do.
Fun thing about the GOP is that they are all rats waiting for the ship to sink. The minute they see that trump is weaker/unpopular among their base, they’ll jump ship and try to sell him out
I’m waiting to watch Tea Party 2.0. If donvict dies or in some other way the spell breaks like it did under Dumbya…they’ll pretend they “never heard of her” when it comes to donvict, and you suddenly won’t be able to find any Republicans.
That’s until they find their next China White to mainline. They ain’t gonna settle for the likes of Romney and Jeb, that’s for sure. They’ll need someone even worse than donvict. They went from Ronnie Raygun - who was just fucking awful already, to W (arguably worse, though he probably did less damage than Ronnie Raygun), to diaper donvict.
I don’t know how viable that actually is, a decade of Trump flags and Trump shirts and Trump merchandise, and decades of Trump branding everywhere before that. The Trump cult is in too deep.
The GOP winners will probably be the ones that poach the Trump brand as “we are Trump’s chosen ones to carry out Trump’s vision for America”, until his cultural significance wanes.
I honestly think there will be spontaneous dancing in the streets or wherever people are at if they learn of donnie’s passing.
Don’t give me hope
They’ll never publicly sell him out, because he’s already attained mythical status to his base.
He is a cult leader, and those around him want that for themselves. They know he’s old and just all want to be the one he hands the cult over to.
Note approval ratings in the USA start with Truman so this is the lowest approval rating period.
Doesn’t matter; we are still infected with the donvict cancer.
Least popular, but not unpopular enough to vote against.
About 29% of Americans voted for Trump. If we look only at the people who voted, then about 49% voted for him. Stop trying to make it seem like it’s the people’s fault. The electoral system is clearly broken.
Ummm those that didn’t vote are also responsible. It IS the people’s fault. But they shouldn’t see it that way. Either they are ok with fascism or actively crave it. Apparently the majority of us are fascists or think we are.
You give people too much credit. Most people don’t spend any time researching and critically engaging with politics or even news, and you probably couldn’t force them even if your tried to add compulsory politically neutral civics to the education system. Some people do well in math, but not in science. The same will be true if this class too.
Then there’s propaganda fucking everything up even further. Most people are not immune to propaganda and misinformation, particularly when most of what they know comes from their friends, who are themselves very likely victims of misinformation.
You’re working off of an extremely idealized view of the electoral system.
No I’m not. I’m also not saying it isn’t broken. What I’m saying is usually the more people that vote, the more democratic it gets and that people who don’t care enough to even figure out who’s running in elections are NOT blameless.
Yes, they are. A system that allows a candidate who didn’t even get half the votes to run the country is fundamentally broken and not participating in it, for whatever reason, doesn’t make you at fault. It’s the orphan crushing machine all over again.
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The electoral system is broken.
But people in swing states stayed home. The buck stops there.
There’s also mounting evidence that many of them didn’t actually stay home.
This needs to be its own post, if it isn’t already.
So he’s more popular this time than last time
Why?
Because the electorate is about 51% morons and self-interested people willing to let the country burn for tax cuts that will only benefit about 5% of them.
Because information literacy is at an all time low, and people are easily swayed by propaganda on their doom rectangles.
And this time, the entire digital media complex is on his side: Facebook, Google, Twitter, Apple, Amazon.
The fact that he isnt even less popular than his last election scares me. The guy has proven himself time and time again in the spotlight to be evil, moronic, really any negative adjective you can think of, and he still has supporters. More, even. How? *
The how is people who disprove of him being more than willing to allow him to win an election because they say there is no difference between him and his opponent. That is up till he is elected and then they suddenly realize how much worse he actually is.
Yeah, the people that believed the trolls and the fake left and the Enlightened Centrists ™ going on about gEnOcIdE and bOtHsIdEs are going to have Pikachu face for the next 4 years (if we are lucky that it’s only that long).
Enlightened Centrist??? Centrists tend to be the pragmatic ones who looked to vote for biden and then harris and the genociden biden always seem to identify with far left in my experience here anyway. Heck I don’t even consider myself a centrist so much but I am pragmatic and I do find when talking to the far left I definitely appear center to them and to the right (because there is not moderate right that I can see) I am apparently the biggest woke, lefty, communist type like biden or obama.
That label is more aimed at the bothsiderists that claim they are Above It All ™ and like to WellACKCHUALLY everything and everyone. Their favorite tactic is usually to talk about “extremes on both sides”, and pull out their Tone Police card and lecture anyone to the left of Rush Limbaugh on civility (this while extremist right wingers are doing things like smashing into the Capitol building and smearing feces everywhere. But the Democrats were seen violating Queensberry Rules, so it’s time for a lecture on rules that only Democrats are held to). Another is to claim that they are an “independent”.
All of this is to the benefit of the actual extremes on the far right. The extreme left is barely a thing. In the United States, anyway. Sure there may be some extremely loud people that seem to be driven by identity politics only and doing a lot to make new Republicans (if you ask me), but they are not really representative of anything, and certainly not the Democratic Party…
yeah I guess the loud portion here was trumpeting how all the lack of votes for kamala was all do to not appeasing them enough and there was a lack of voting somewhere as it was down.
Yeah, quite a few demand to have a pretty pony given to them by the Democrats, or they’ll stamp their foot and go home.
And the thing people are most upset about is renaming the Gulf. What in the absolute fuck?
Trans people are attempting to flee the country fearing for their lives
…and the thing people care about is the fucking Gulf of Mexico getting renamed
That’s the whole point. Deflect real controversy with stupid sound bites.
I need to know the content of the footnote.
Because people in this country have the memory of a fucking goldfish. I’m sure it’s going to drop hard in a week.
Remember a week ago when he had his highest approval rating ever when he took office?
Well, that sure was quick. The goldfish have remembered why we got rid of him in the first place.
