So no idea of really how the crash happened, don’t have black boxes yet. But somehow knows it was dei. Right.
He doesn’t need evidence he has “common sense”
Actual quote from the press conference
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PAT25(?) announced that they have a visual on the CRJ. ATC instructed them to maintain visual separation and then proceed behind the CRJ. They didn’t. No maydays, no panpans.
It’s pilot deviation or pilot error.
What would you be interested in with the black box? If the TAWS warned the CRJ pilots?
Black box is woke dei hire.
wouldn’t have happened if white box.
Black Box in a black hawk. I mean come on
New EO just dropped. We’re calling them white boxes and painting them to prevent future tragedy.
This is even funnier because black boxes are bright orange
Are we sure Trump isn’t a black box in disguise? 🤔
Painting them white would be a typical Trump ineffectual quick-fix gesture.
Of course. Had it been a white box, it would have avoided this crash, we all know that!
/s
You missed an even better joke with white hawk helicopter.
Looks more like rainbow colored to me.
Wouldn’t that be TCAS?
You right. Helicopters aren’t terrain. My bad
TCAS doesn’t give resolution advisories (alerts that say to climb or descend to avoid traffic) below 1000’. It does have a warning noise still, but from my understanding it’s common for it to go off on approach due to all the other aircraft around and on the ground at the airport, so it may have been ignored.
The ATC queries them multiple times if they have visual on the CRJ and they repeatedly respond in the affirmative.
also the published helicopter corridor has them maintain a ceiling of 200 feet, they were well above 350 at the time of the collision.
It’s either pilot negligence or instrument failure.
also TCAS is inactive below
800900 feet.It’s pilot error or deviation. You have the CRJ in sight. You are responsible for maintaining visual separation. Full stop. Instrument failure does not apply to your eyes.
Due to his barren mental landscape, he can only rant about two or three things in a given month.
He should work a shift as an air traffic controller so that people can understand he’s just a regular guy like they are.
People are already suffering and dying because of him, let’s not make it any easier for him to take lives.
Keep insulting the air traffic controllers that allow AF1 to land safely…
This is 10000% on Trump and Musk. I give them 30 days of they stay in the country
You killed 67 people, and it’s only been a month of your “presidency.”
TrumpBodyCount = TrumpBodyCount + 67
Think of all the covid deaths, place responsibility where it belongs, right in his lap. 1000 deaths on average per week, I don’t have the long covid disabilities numbers ‘off the top of my head’, but they are even more.
As much as Trump is absolutely terrible, Biden was equally responsible for the large number of COVID deaths. His administration made the CDC completely abandon masking, ventilation, and other preventative guidance, almost completely abandon or hide COVID statistics, and he also said that the pandemic was “over”. Credit both of them, a pair of terrible presidents.
“Equally responsible.” You’re out of your mind. 1 million COVID deaths under Trump. What kind of numbers you got for Biden?
Our rating: False
The post overstates the number of COVID-19 deaths reported in the U.S. during Trump’s presidency. At the time Trump left office in January 2021, the death toll had surpassed 400,000, according to multiple health organizations. The U.S. marked 1 million COVID-19 deaths in May 2022.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_in_the_United_States
Deaths 1,212,505[3] (reported) 1,197,470 (CDC estimate)[6]
That means that about twice as many people in the US died from COVID under Biden’s administration than under Trump’s (1.2 million minus 400,000 = 800,000.
Granted, Biden had a lot longer time dealing with the pandemic than Trump did, but this was all just to point out that Biden ALSO sucked in his handling of COVID.
Trump’s entire handling of the pandemic including telling his cult members not to respect the advice of professionals continued to kill people until we hit 1 million. That’s roughly four months into Biden’s presidency. You can’t lay any of that on Biden.
And also Trump’s state-level lackeys were deliberately under-reporting covid deaths.
No he wasn’t. You don’t blame the guy who gets on the train after it was allowed to get up to speed and run out of control, for not being able to stop it fast enough.
You got a little bit of a point. Even if “equally” may be an exaggeration, you can certainly blame Biden for essentially dropping the push for masking, ventilation, vaccinations, and reporting of COVID. I do and always will. Like I said, both of them sucked regarding COVID.
I don’t even know how you factor in other travesties. Like letting all those J6 criminals out of prison. One of them already had to be put down by a cop during a traffic stop. How do you factor that, when the safest option was to keep them in prison?
A month? 10 days, mate. Months have around 30 days, so he still has time to raise that number.
Feels like 6 months already. Son of a bitch it’s gonna be a long decade.
Holy hell it’s only been 10 days
These 10 days have been the longest decade of my life.
Cue in captain america’s gif.
Trump is America’s Asshole.
4 more years
Not if he gets that 3rd term…
Oh joy! /s
I only said month because even when he wasn’t president yet, they were already making moves like he was. But you are correct it’s ONLY been 10 fucking days.
One mooch
It’s only been barely a week, bro…
I hate Trump as much as anyone else here, but I fail to see how his FAA firings cause this accident. Can you explain how this is his fault?
edit: Thanks for the downvotes assuming I’m a sealion, just because I asked a question.
Trump loves to blame people for things they have no direct control over, like blaming Boden for the cost of eggs, while taking credit for anything positive that happens while he is in office that had nothing to do with him.
I assumed OP was mocking that attitude, but could be wrong.
That article says that they have been dealing with staffing issues for some time.
And you don’t think the firing of even more employees didn’t have an effect?
Not in that incident, no. It may affect the future, but that incident seemed to be pilot error according to the ATC recordings.
That’s some stupid fucking horseshit. It would be nearly impossible to fire a large part of an organization without a noticeable effect. Here we have fatal evidence of that. Yeah people assume you’re coming in bad faith because how could we not?
I’m all for making Trump look bad, so is you feel that this will damage him, I’m in. I just want to see some evidence or an ATC that would agree.
The Buck Stops With Trump. You have no idea what directives Pete Hegseth gave the Pentagon which effected the orders, maintenance, or operation of the BlackHawk Helicopter which flew into the plane killing everyone. When incompetence is put in charge, things break, sometimes slowly, sometimes immediately, and when you purposefully throw a monkey wrench into the internal operations of state organs, people die. And now people have died, on Donald Trump’s watch. The Buck Stops With Him as it has with all other Presidents before him.
Whatever orders Hegseth gave, it’s highly unlikey they would have had an immediate effect on operational readiness in such a short time.
And I say this as someone who thinks Hegseth is an out-of-control idiot and probably a traitor put in to sabotage the US military.
The entire federal workforce has extremely poor morale right now because of Traitorapist Trump. And the poor morale likely also caused the 2nd problem of not enough workers doing air traffic control. Trump’s enshitification efforts have already had time to take effect. The quality of government has already been degraded.
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/01/30/federal-workers-buyout-offer-00201349
Trump plays to the American egregor of the CEO as Kingmaker. Literally proposes frequently running the USA as a business.
When you are the CEO the responsibility of the entire thing lies with you.
Now I don’t agree with Trump, but it’s merely holding him to his own standards.
When you put it that way, I agree. You want to be the king, you take the blame.
Next time AF1 goes for a jaunt to pedo-island, the air traffic controllers that trump is insulting have an opportunity to become really American heroes…
It would be great if every ATC suddenly denied Air Force 1 take off clearance because they “need a little extra time to ensure the president’s safety”
And Trump knows best, he has all the listed conditions himself.
In some way, it also symbolizes what he is doing to the country. His plane is just a bit bigger.
Dumber every day.
It’s time to preorder Trump’s guide to being a good conservative: “Everything bad that happens is the fault of the people I hate”
He doesn’t actually care who or what is responsible as long as he can tell people it isn’t him.
If he had half a brain he would just say investigations are ongoing whenever asked.
If he had half a brain he would just say investigations are ongoing whenever asked.
No because the plan is to blame literally everything that goes wrong on minorities.
You mean it’s another of those trans illegal immigrants that escaped from an asylum that worked in an airport control tower in between all the pillaging and raping? It’s crazy, how many are there of those anyway?
the plan is to blame literally everything that goes wrong on minorities.
Instead of Trump’s own major enshitification of the quality of government causing the morale of federal workers to plummet.
Never give up a good or even bad opportunity to try and throw someone in front of a bus. An opportunity not seized is a opportunity missed.
Magically, for 16 years none of these issues resulted in this outcome
He’s going to use this as an excuse to repeal the Americans with Disabilities Act. I’m calling it.
it’s in project 2025
So many rascal driving MAGAots are about to have their face eaten.
Sucks it will affect decent folks.
Nostradamus [Belle] two days ago:
“If they keep the details quiet [of the recent closed-door meeting], you’ll be able to tell what they’re going after [in the budget] by listening to their rhetoric”.
“They’ll start scapegoating a demographic, to try and prime the [voter] base to accept their cuts.”
(e.g.) “If they start talking about able-bodied people, it’s Medicaid.”
Why’s he gotta bad talk the president like that.
severe intellectual disabilities, psychiatric problems, or other mental or physical conditions
So trump is confirming his numerous physical and mental deficiencies?
Projection is always a confession with Trump.
So, himself?