While I agree with the message, that the people should leave all centralized Social Media services, the big mistake here is concentrating a massive user-base on one instance (.ml) of one specific service (Lemmy) instead of spreading the influx towards many smaller, but still solid instances and federated services (PieFed, Mastodon, MBin).
Even disregarding .ml’s reputation, if this post does reach a substantial user-base, the only thing happening then is .ml receiving a HoD and people losing faith in the Fediverse as a whole (e: spelling) due to this, sadly. :c
Edit different versions for different instances
So nice that radical activism only requires I switch apps 🥳
Plot twist: it’s a ploy by reddit to get extremists off their platform and on to Lemmy
It’s a plot twist to overload the servers of single instances.
Yeah this thing is worded so strong for what it is
I don’t know how the French are able to rally in real life and put everything on the line to push back fascism. I know I should do something real to fight back, but like, I’ve got a lot going on ya know? Maybe I’ll be rallied by the time atrocities have already happened, but I hope not.
We have unions, a variety of political parties and many organisations who have decades, even a century of experience on how to organise rallyes. The only thing common people have to do it show up. And still, most French won’t go even if they sympathise with the message (I almost never do it).
The main difference being that France is 248,573 mi² (643,801 km2)
The contiguous United States is 3,119,000 mi² (8,080,464.3 km²)
France also has a 3.5x higher population density
Inhabitants/km²
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France: 124.4
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United States: 35.2
The country’s population density doesn’t change anything to protest, it’s a cultural thing. People only live in cities anyway why would having huge empty fields affect protests ?
And there are plenty of denser countries which fight way less.
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I saw a post on here the other day where someone was complaining that their coworkers “don’t care” about the current political climate and after they elaborated, they were describing people who do care but weren’t actively spearheading a demonstration. I don’t know if they expect them to go stand in traffic or what.
I give monthly donations to nonprofits that I like and email my state representatives when EFF or Fight for the Future tells me to but I’ve also got a life to live. Just stay informed, vote/petition, donate if you can, but live your life. You can only do so much.
I appreciate reminding me that taking the most extreme action is not the only way to respond here. It’s hard to not see Luigi and immediately think ‘that’s actually doing something right there!’ being engaged counts
here we go bois
i left yesterday after 12 years. joined lemmy. the internet was a lot cooler before it was run by billionaires and ass kissers who are intimidated by billionaires.
fuck em all
What up big dog
i left yesterday after 12 years. joined lemmy.
Welcome!
Here’s your welcome-possum:
I thought we do welcome beans?
Welcome to the fight soldier.
ignore the piles of beans.
Currently shitty egg memes I believe.
shitty
I’ll check back in 3 days then
My account is 14 years old, and I’m almost to the my line where I’m going to torch it. The censorship is getting bad!
I do miss the Reddit from 10-14 years ago. So sad that it’s gone. It was truly amazing.
I found all the automated tools don’t work anymore. It took me 3 hours to manually delete all my content before I i deleted my account. Good luck.
Oh damn, shreddit doesn’t work any longer?
You can also keep your account to talk about Lemmy
That’s the trick. Historical accounts are valuable to avoid automated bans when posting lemmy links.
It did not when I tried it. Deleted like 10 things then stopped and never would work again.
Damn
Well you’re in a good spot. Lemmy is like reddit 14 years ago 😅
You kept your account for 14 years? I always deleted my accounts after some time. Longest one was for almost 3 years I think.
Mine is 16 yo by now I think. I don’t delete it as it’s historical enough not to get auto banned when doing agitation for lemmy over there.
Yeah, but I’ve cleaned it out a few times over the years.
Welcome!
Welcome!
Excellent. Every long term power redditor exiting is a good blow to reddit. They’re left with all the lurkers who just want to consume content so they’ll have to rely more and more on ai slop until people realize it’s all fake.
When you’ve settled in, consider joining a smaller instance! Just because it has “Lemmy” in the name doesn’t mean it’s official or good. We all federate together, so you can still join communities hosted on other instances.
thank you! still wrapping my head around the “instances” thing but i think i’m starting to get it
I’ve been here a while, and don’t have any desire to check out other instances. I just know that if Lemmy.world goes under, or its management starts fucking around, there are plenty of places I can go.
Leaving Reddit was not as simple.
Different geocities neighborhoods
Welcome, glad you could make it! I hope you find this to be a cool place.
For best results, subscribe to communities you want to have a dedicated feed for, and block communities, instances and users that aren’t worth your time, since there is the occasional jerk like you might find anywhere on the internet.
since there is the occasional jerk like you
Hey!
might find anywhere on the internet.
Oh.
I’m going to repeat what I’ve been saying a lot lately. The default is “active.” If that gets boring (it probably will), switch to “hot,” “new,” and “top 6 hours” to get a more vibrant experience. The search engine is confusing at first, but is pretty good.
Welcome!
The web UI is accessible on any device and there are plenty of apps as well such as Sync and Voyager.
Jerboa has treated me well. I tried others but Jerboa is similar to Baconreader which is what I used in the olden times
Fellow baconreader refugee here. I use Jeboa and Eternity alternatingly. They were both good and I was never able to choose. baconreader was a great tool for research into other peoples experiences, knowledge, and opinions. Also the memes etc. I’m glad threaded convos live on via Lemmy.
They should really include the no ads thing. I think it’s a great selling point, and it would be useful to leverage.
While this is true some instances do need donations it’s very probable that some instances could include ads in the future.
Totally fair, but at the moment, there are none. And even if instances will start using 3rd party ads, there will also be instances that will never run ads. The power of federation at work.
Surprised it wasn’t banned quickly
Lemmy mods delete posts and threads too. Interesting choice to use the Lemmy.ml instance in this message. Coincidentally they just deleted one of my threads in asklemmy recently.
It’s a little bit dramatic, it’s a little bit wordy.
Yup, it probably is a genuine thing from the source: certainly, it was written by a redditor.“Rage, rage against the dying of the light.”
Yeah, this is a terminally online manifesto that I couldn’t even get through. It’s roleplay and storytelling, which is what our species is great at, but it doesn’t connect with reality beyond that.
Look guys, if you want to engage in some kind of organized social action that will actually make a difference, turn off social media entirely. You moving from reddit to lemmy feels good in a micro-narrative, but nobody cares, it won’t change anything for anyone. It’s not bad, but it’s not some heroic action either.
You can do so, so much more for the causes you care about by GOING THE FUCK OUTSIDE.
I think that you can leave reddit and do other meaningful things as well. In fact it might even help you do so. And being a little dramatic might just be what some people need as a push to do it. I didn’t get through all of this either, but then I have already left there.
You can do so, so much more for the causes you care about by GOING THE FUCK OUTSIDE.
I mean…it all starts with communication, right?
This platform is a source for communication. One that isn’t affected by corporate goons and Nazis the way Reddit is. The internet is literally the most effective form of communication if used properly. Yeah, you eventually have to go outside and get dirty, but it starts places like this.
We shouldn’t be putting this post down. It’s not productive.
lemmy . ml sucks too, btw… this little flyer leads people straight into the worst instance… one that’s essentially only chinese communist propaganda
revolutions are born in monents like these
Holy shit can this whole thing be any more corny? Is this done by teenagers? Don’t get me wrong fuck Musk/reddit/etc. but what is even the outrage about this time?
Subreddits are being banned and important information being hindered from being seen. It may be corny to you but at least they’re trying. What have you done?
I’m not sure if I share the exact same sentiment as @[email protected], but I honestly did have the thought of, “Who (or For Whom), does this format work for anymore?”
Like I get it, it’s classical and all. A call back to a historic time where action was taken (just don’t look into it too hard, you’ll get disappointed if you learn outside the “Americuh” version). But, now it just feels a little … disingenuous? Idk the exact word/feeling, maybe because it’s been co-opted by so many bad actors or maybe that we’re talking about social media websites.
I guess this format gives off a dude’s “Love, Live, Laugh” version of righteousness, that even though the message may be correct, it just feels like a weird marketing technique.
OK I laughed at dudes version if live laugh love. 😂 Either way we’re fucked I guess. I have my gun ready to act but I’m sure as hell not dying by myself.
I limited my internet time to just an hour or two a day and stopped caring about any of this worthless performative BS.
If there are causes you care about or actions you want to take to impact the world and make a difference, GOING THE FUCK OUTSIDE does so, so much more than this kind of roleplay teenage bullshit. Moving your worthless scrolling time from one website to another isn’t going to bring the establishment to its knees. But going out and donating a box of socks and underwear to a community food bank will literally change someone’s life.
edit: if these kinds of messages make you angry or feel called out, that’s a sure, 100% accurate predictor that you’re exactly who this message is directed at. For that matter, if you’re reading the feelings and opinions of others (what social media is) then you’re not living your own life and finding your own emotional states and this is why we’re here. We’re discarding our lives to live in both the rage and satisfaction of others. When was the last time you sought out other HUMANS to feel these things? How much have you worked to exercise whatever shriveled spark of free-will is left in there? Are you just surfing from stimulation to stimulation as your brain invents rationalizations for your lack of actual life and progress? GO OUT AND DO LITERALLY ANYTHING ELSE, YOU SHOULDN’T BE SITTING IN FRONT OF YOUR MONITOR ANGRY YOU DENSE, TRAPPED MOTHERFUCKER.
You assume that because I’m discussing these things online that I don’t take action. Not that it’s any of your business but I’m going to a community cleanup tomorrow. I’ll be bringing a chair and watching people pick up litter.
Is this done by teenagers?
Quite possibly. There’d be no real way of knowing. But it does sound like young people trying to find an outlet and seeking change–as ineffectual as it may seem to jaded old timers.
I saw it being denounced as a psyop which I thought was funny, since I think it pretty clearly isn’t one. But directing people to lemmy.ml is bad advice as most of us know.
When I first heard of Lemmy, I curiously poked around, and at the time it was just lemmygrad and ml. Needless to say I backed out quickly. Glad it got some diversity with the api kerfuffle.
I love it, but I fear for the day Lemmy becomes so popular that it is worthwhile for the corporate bots to begin gaming Lemmy’s algorithm to dominate front pages. I don’t think Lemmy is prepared to defend against this.
I am still new to the fediverse but I figured that smaller constellations will federate without connecting to the largest federation.
It’s harder to manipulate 500 disjoint federations than 1 really large one. Especially when some of those federations rely on heavy verification.
Of course those smaller federations are likely organized around specific purposes or organizing interests rather than broad public discourse.
Part of what makes Reddit so great is the huge community of content creators. Both the posts and comments. Lemmy has slowly been catching up, but still is far off.
Defederating from large instances will just result in lower quality content for those instances. I would hope there’d be a better solution, but I’m not smart enough to think of one.
Maybe the secret is to let each instance control their own sorting algorithm. They keep getting the content from the large instances, but control how it gets brought to the front page. My guess is this would be no small task, but that would definitely make it difficult to game the algorithm.
So with all due respect I think you’re coming at this from a different set of experiences and assumptions as to what constitutes “good content.”
I’m a transsexual and many of us have already migrated into closed Discord servers in order to specifically avoid what you consider to be “benefits” of federating with large instances.
The same things you think are so great about Reddit have been driving us off the platform for years in search of more niche and protected communities.
I’m not denying that your use case here is valid. Just that it’s a very mainstream view of what good social media is. But mainstream appeal doesn’t necessarily mean better for all of us in all communities.
The fediverse has the potential in the digital world to be like gay villages once were in meat world. Isolated and self-segregated, safer than most places though hate crimes and bath house raids still continued, and essential for organizing networks of support/protection between ourselves.
We definitely have different use cases. I’m looking for the exact same thing I had on Reddit, but on a platform controlled by people that won’t sell our user experience for share prices.
Doesn’t mean I want the Nazis and homophobes here as well. But the content I enjoyed on Reddit is what I would want here. Not just fun memes and news stories, but niche communities and the great comments you’d get from Reddit.
Sounds like you didn’t like what you had on Reddit and are looking for something different.
You might want to have a look at https://gui.fediseer.com/
This is an interesting idea and provides some inspiration thank you
I think we might reach a point that, instead of one application in the beginning, we’d have to have periodic “re-verification” to prove that you are human (and haven’t been taken over by a bot). Like maybe once every 6 months. And on the 5th month, you can begin early submission for the re-verification application.
Imagine running from censorship and going to Lemmy.ml lmao
Right? Way to destroy a movement and make a bunch of people run back to Reddit and “never again”.
Honestly for the subreddit this was made for .ml is probably the best fit and I’m okay with keeping them over there.
This was on /r/anarchocommunism. It’s no great loss of they stay on Reddit.
I guess we can expect the amount of time it spends up to be counted in minutes…
And… it’s gone.
I didn’t go looking, I was just making a joke.
Good, needs to be redone to remove lemmy.ml and put literally any other instance not in the Tankie Triad
The OP is in an anarchocommunist sub. I guess if they’re really anarchists then DB0 would be a better instance though
Yea if it’s an anarchist sub then DB0 would be an excellent fit IMO
lemmy.ml 😬
where every user is a revolutionary
Ahem. Cosplays as a revolutionary.
Tell me the difference between resistance and performative resistance?
Look I’m not gonna dox the mf’er, but the primary force behind the .ml instance, and frankly all of lemmy, spends a lot of time enjoying the privilege and benefits that come with being a well paid software living in a “global north” social democracy. Thankfully, they have since cleaned up their profile, but previously, it was trivially easy to figure out where a certain person lived, at least the metro, what company they worked at, and that their income range was well into the 6 figure plus.
If you are new to lemmy, maybe take a bit more time to develop your understanding of the ‘lore’ that underpins this place. If you are already familiar, please understand that basically the core development team of lemmy, and admins of the dot ml instance advocate for a kind of authoritarianism they’ve been shielded from their entire lives, and that they’ve enjoyed extraordinary privilege that has only, historically, been available to the global north, and specifically, a kind of democratic socialism that affords them incredible breadth of opportunity. And its fine that they have contradictions and don’t live their perspectives; but I’m going to exercise a significant degree of criticism at this disconnect.
