A pitiless crackdown on on illegal immigration. A hardline approach to law and order. A purge of “gender ideology” and “wokeness” from the nation’s schools. Erosions of academic freedom, judicial independence and the free press. An alliance with Christian nationalism. An assault on democratic institutions.
The “electoral autocracy” that is Viktor Orbán’s Hungary has been long revered by Donald Trump and his “Make America Great Again” (Maga) movement. Now admiration is turning into emulation. In the early weeks of Trump’s second term as US president, analysts say, there are alarming signs that the Orbánisation of America has begun.
This example is great, because it shows where there is sanity, and order. In each of your examples - things lined up naturally, without explanation across language, borders, sex, color, etc. Red, Green, etc all mapped perfectly across all of those instances, without people having to learn something new for each individual person. You say Blue = Azul, that’s a ruleset that spans the WHOLE language instantly. You learn it once, and you know it. Hell, you also just learned it in Portugese…
Gender identity is none of that. Every person with their own gender identity has their own special rules for their version of the subject. Each set of rules is unique to that individual, and they expect everyone around them to know those rules that are internal to them. (Primarily because Gender Identity circles are these huge echo-chambers which refuse to interact with anyone who doesn’t 200% agree with them) – Now imagine each and every person you met had a different word for Blue. Now imagine that you can’t keep all of that straight in your head and you just call the color “Blue” in your own tongue. And the person on the other side of the conversation gets IRRATIONALLY angry at you. THAT is Gender Identity.
That’s not going to fly. You don’t get to dictate the behaviors and actions of those around you. If someone meets you and they immediately need a 10 minute education on how they need to alter their OWN identity in order to keep you from flying off the handle, then you’re not sane.
If gender identity followed a set of rules (it doesn’t) then it would be much easier to grasp and understand for the world. But it’s not - it’s a mental illness. Or…maybe it looks like a mental illness because we don’t have the words to describe what people are trying to convey, but it has no similarities at all to the thing you describe.
Until the subject of Gender identities can unify into a simple to grasp thing that can have logic applied to it, people aren’t going to accept it.
I had a perfect conversation with a community of trans individuals about this. If a man has kids, and then considers himself a woman – what does he want to be called in relation to those kids? A father? A mother?
Turns out, nobody in the community could agree on what they wanted to be referred to in the past-tense. They all had their own unique flavor of what they would have preferred. So nobody, rational or otherwise, would ever be able to discern the proper way to approach the subject in the presence of theoretical individual. (It was a thought experiment that the community I was speaking with participated in thoughtfully and respectfully, and some people actually respected and attempted to understand the other side of things, which was incredibly refreshing. It hasn’t happened since - which is sad - but I quite enjoyed that community)
THAT’S the craziness. That’s the problem with Gender Identity. Unless it has an easily understood set of rules, people will not adopt it. We want to convey information, and move on. We don’t want to first learn how you would PREFER we convey the information - we need a set of rules that we can quickly and broadly apply, so that we aren’t throwing a wrench into the gears of our brains.
That goes doubly true with as many autistic and adhd people also cross over here. Especially for people with autism and other mental issues (myself included) - that juggling of special rules represents a real struggle.
Yep. Fuck your pronouns. I’ll make a logical assumption, correct myself if asked to. Not going to fucking seek your preference. Fuck they.
I’m ALREADY on your side! FFS give it a fucking rest already. There are plenty of others hurting without the constant wailing, “What about ME!”
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I’m so done. These motherfuckers, arguing about bullshit when their very lives are on the line. STFU already. Been blocking all the non-stop trans posts and comms. It’s overwhelming.
tl;dr: I’m with you, but you aren’t with me. Fight among yourselves. I’ll help if I can.
But it doesn’t map perfectly. That’s the point of the comment you replied to. In my native language, “blue” isn’t one word. If you say “blue” and I need to translate that, I need to ask whether you mean lighter or darker shade of blue, because those are straight up two different words. And it’s perfectly natural to me because I grew up speaking that language. But I also understand that not all languages have that distinction and sometimes it needs to be explicitly clarified.