Anonymous: Trump is making America weaker and we’ll exploit it. The international hacker community is preparing to strike against U.S. infrastructure and calls for public awareness against incoming fascism
Don’t need to open Twitter to watch it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cI27LEimfYg
I’m also remembering an IT crowd scene where they argue about which of them is in Anonymous, and I can’t find it now. Does anyone have a link handy? Unless I am misremembering
I don’t know if this is the point you’re making, but IIRC, they are a disorganized group, so anybody can claim to be part of them.
Yea I think that was the joke in that scene, but I can’t seem to find a clip of it
Gotcha, I honestly didn’t watch the video, so the joke is now on me.
…unless you’re pretending not to know, and you really are in… IT
It was the very final episode. Sort of a special. That wrapped up the series. Sometimes referred to as season 5. The name of the episode is the internet is coming.
Oh wow. They’ll shut down a website for a day.
Whoop-tee-doo.
Lol this is hilarious. I don’t know which “anonymous” they spoke to, but it definitely wasn’t the actual subversionist hackers that know how to do shit.
So, they are going to hurt innocent people to save the innocent people?
How exactly does this help us? Why attack infrastructure we need to survive? So many other targets I feel would have better results.
That’s how you win asymmetric warfare.
I really have no idea, I don’t study warfare, usually avoid such things lol
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yeah ddos a website with your low orbit ion canons. that’ll teach them for sure. q0wned. thank you
Exploit it you say? Please get in line behind the russians, the chinese snd pretty much all arab countries
What did we do? As if our governments aren’t US vassals? Yet you still demonize us. If Arab governments had any sway our governments wouldn’t be paying tributes and forced to normalize with Israel and host US troops.
The only foreign country that controls US politics and bought US politicians from both major parties is Israel. https://www.opensecrets.org/industries/summary?cycle=All&ind=Q05&recipdetail=S
You say that as if Iran hasn’t been financing uprisings, Turkey isn’t openly affectionate with multiple opposing world powers, and as if Afghanistan didn’t fall into chaos literally as the USA were leaving.
Next time a blonde haired blue eyed British man named Lawrence comes asking you to rebel against the Ottomans you’ll think twice, huh
There were legitimate grievances, but most Arabs did not rebel against the Ottomans. In fact many more died fighting for it. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2004/1/14/the-forgotten-arabs-of-gallipoli
The Saudis did not give the Jared billions for nothing. Just remember, the Saudis and Israelis told Bush to invade Iraq and next up is Iran with Putin’s Sock Puppet in charge. It will be a massive cluster fuck.
Leaders in the region fear that the US will turn their countries into another Iraq so they pay up. Don’t confuse tributes for bribes.
Saudi Arabia opposed the invasion of Iraq. It was Netanyahu that went to congress and sold the war to them.
Saudi Arabia’s Steadfast Opposition to the Invasion of Iraq
https://www.washingtonpost.com/made-by-history/2023/03/17/iraq-saudi-arabia-saddam-hussein/
Crap, I should have typed the 1st Gulf War and Bush Sr. You are correct about the 2nd invasion, the Saudis did not want Iraq fractured and the Shite’s gaining power through Iran.
In the first Gulf War it was out of necessity. Iraqi troops invaded Kuwait and Saudi Arabia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Khafji
Even today, other than wealth, Saudi Arabia is a much smaller country than Iraq with half its population -Saudi Arabia’s population figures are inflated since over 40% are foreigners-. In 1991 Iraq was much stronger, and much more self sufficient, it could have taken Saudi Arabia in days if it weren’t for the coalition forces.
-Saudi Arabia’s population figures are inflated since over 40% are foreigners-.
That’s not inflated, they’re still part of the population…
Maybe they don’t count temporary residents like students and foreign worker permit holders?
Also can they likely can’t be drafted / join their army?
Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates and Egypt have been caught spying on the US (or US citizens) from what I know
Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates and Egypt have been caught spying on the US (or US citizens) from what I know
Dude, America has spied on even its allies. The bar is pretty low, here.
Saudi Arabia is allegedly spying on Saudis abroad including in the US. Specifically government critics on social media. Saudi Arabia allegedly spied on its citizens in the US through a network flaw
This is bad and probably violates US laws. But it wasn’t targeting the US or US citizens. Meanwhile, Israel is targeting the US and US citizens: Israel Has Long Spied on U.S., Say Officials
Iran, for one example, is a prolific cybersecurity adversary of the USA. One of the top four advesaries alongside China, North Korea and Russia. In fact, Iran is believed to be responsible for disclosing a CIA covert channel to China which led to a critical dismantling of CIA assets. I don’t know as much about other Arab states because Iran is most famous for its advanced cyber-warfare capabilities, but honestly, to avoid exploiting the USA would be very foolish.
Obviously this goes both ways. Israel and the USA are infamous for Stuxnet, a computer virus which reportedly destroyed a fifth of Iran’s nuclear centrifuges in the early 2000s.
I just want to confirm that you know that Iranians are not Arabs. Linguistically they are closer to Europeans and Indians.
Sorry, you are correct. I assumed the person you replied to was talking about the whole Middle East region and didn’t think twice for posting.
Don’t forget the billionaires too.
What makes you think Anonymous isn’t filled with the russians, chinese, and pretty much all arab countries?
If it’s not card carrying white republicans hacking America, we’re going to have a problem with it.
What?
Yes, that’s how exploiting works in those videos.
Anything supposedly said by “Anonymous” as a hacker group should always be treated with immense skepticism.
There do exist somewhat legitimate sub-factions that actually take serious actions and do serious ops, and also semi-legitimate “outlets” for their statements… but there’s also an overwhelming amount of smokescreen bullshit “anon news outlets” and little script kiddies running around. It’s important/intentional that those continue existing as smoke screen for the more “serious” factions.
Beyond that, being an anonymous group with no real methods of confirming membership to outsiders (insiders can just check if you’re in the private IRCs and etc) it means that just about anyone and everyone can make some big declaration like this. The proof will be in the results, not some announcement that could be made by a rando.
No matter who is really making these threats/warnings, I think things are going to get pretty dire in the US government IT space. It’s been well known for decades that most government orgs have absolutely abysmal cyber security, and now you have a bunch of young adult tech-bros with no true accountability running roughshod over all of it. Then there’s the fact that more than one of them have “serious black hat hacker” backgrounds.
Going to be one wild ride.
It’s been well known for decades that most government orgs
I’ve seen Muni and Regional gov and also dotcoms.
The Govs I’ve been at were crazy-tight about security. They were unionized and could decide based on conscience vs costs. Dotcoms, though, followed a different trending, one that really focused on costs.
I guess its pointless to believe their words since there is no way to know if its them. Just look at what they actually do and judge based on that.
Yeah. I’ve only spent a few moments skimming through the linked article but if you were part of a legitimate hacktivism group planning a significant operation why would you publish this statement ?
It’s really just spooky hyperbole - as though written by an adolescent that want’s to sound scary and powerful.
I would absolutely love to see hacktivists cause some chaos, and maybe even some real financial harm.
The whole point is to being attention to the rise of fascism. Hacking without releasing a statement like this is just terrorism. Releasing a statement after hacking can make it easier for the govt to cover up, like “no we weren’t hacked, someone in our server room just accidentally tripped over a power cable”
There do exist somewhat legitimate sub-factions that actually take serious actions and do serious ops
Any examples or sources for me to learn more about these? The only Anonymous news I’ve heard of since the early days is updates on Kirtaner.
I don’t know about government overall, but the military and HHS have has some of the most stringent security stances I’ve encountered. To the point where just working for them was a massive chore. (How effective they were I guess I don’t know, but working for them sucked.)
That said, I’ll take what you said on faith, because I think you’re spot on with everything else.
Often, ridiculous and onerous procedural security is hiding massively incompetent actual software security or is used to constrain people from discovering security by obscurity holes. Everything I’ve done in government interfacing as a vendor would seem to confirm this, at least back when I was doing it a few years ago. You’d be hard pressed to convince me it’s changed much since.
I once answered a phone call inside a com closet on base. Military IT was already escorting me. Security came because the cameras in the closet detected the camera on my phone. It’s definitely physically tight security.
I had to help the SSA implement SAML authentication once and they weren’t even allowed to share their screen so I could see what they were doing. Totally agree that it’s a massive chore.
That said, I’ll take what you said on faith, because I think you’re spot on with everything else.
I mean, it’s not a secret that governments everywhere run really outdated software (think things like Windows 7 and older) because “it works”, so it really shouldn’t be too surprising.
little script kiddies running around
Yeah, they’re running around the Treasury Dept right now.
It’s been well known for decades that most government orgs have absolutely abysmal cyber security
Having worked with government agencies and a lot of large private organizations the thing that keeps them mostly secure is the amount of red tape involved with things. Patching a production system requires a teleconference with at least five different people and no one person knows everything.
The idiots without any security experience coming in to “streamline” things will just make the systems even more fragile and insecure.
Known and vetted systems are always the most secure. Until RSA is broken, and then they’ll need to update to a quantum resilient standard. Which we’ve had in the wild for 6 years already and the NIST has officially approved for 2 years.
We’re still at least a decade away from a machine with enough qbits to do it. So i feel like we should be fine.
It’s the fucking Credit Bureaus, Telecoms, and Energy Companies I worry about. They keep fucking up.
Anyone who complies with the NIST standards is in a good place.
The problem is that a lot of places are not in compliance with NIST standards.
I know, I’ve helped patch them.
Yep, but we’ve got at least a decade to do it, and when new systems are stood up they “should” be in compliance.
Based on my experience if we say it needs done in a decade it will never be done.
See also: All the unemployment systems running on FORTRAN
FORTRAN could be said to be security through obscurity though /s
My final semester in American Sign Language was “Sex, Drugs, and Profanity,” and most of the signs are just exactly what you’d guess. (I held on to those textbooks.) Plus, facial expressions are a big part of the grammar of the language. I don’t recognize this scene, but assuming it’s from a comedy - it’s probably also not far off from accurate.
It’s from the 1982 film Airplane 2: the Sequel. Nowhere near as funny as the original, but still very funny.
Do it, attack America’s life points directly.
No, my Blue Eyes White Aryan!
Exploit it? The EU thinks they can exploit the chaos? What are they going to do, give us universal health care, a strong safety net, consumer protections, renewable energy and TRAINNNNNNSSSSSSS? (Please, oh please)
Anonymous is going to attack the American people’s infrastructure?
No, they are going to talk a bunch then so nothing. It’s their whole thing.
Just brush the Funyun crumbs off of your shirt before starting.
They’re all talk and no bite. The world needs fsociety
The world fsociety brought about was shit
The final season they steal all of the money the ruling elites had been using to control the world, ending their grip on society.
Could also be argued that the dark army did the most evil shit and the government siding with the deus group rather than taking the side of the citizens is why things spiraled after wiping out the debt history of everyone.
Elon and the other people pulling the strings on society losing all their money would not be a bad thing for civilization at all
It’s partly due to fsociety actions that things ended like they did. I remember it being actually worse than how it was before
Well I hope they choose their targets right, otherwise it’ll just make everything worse.
That’s kind of inevitable right now. The most important thing is making sure Trump and the GOP get the blame. Well, them or Russia.
Actually, the best targets aren’t the government. It’s big business.
That’s gonna be a big ask. Republicans don’t even get the blame for the things they do themselves. Oligarch propaganda is everywhere and pernicious, look at how the average working class American has accepted the notion that low level bureaucrats are the reason they’re poor.
They’ll blame it on Obama, Hillary, Biden, communism, LGBTQ, Black people, immigrants, etc.
They never take the blame - there’s always an ‘other’ to demonize.
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Under facism dog whistles quickly become crimes
Very true and annoyed at myself for forgetting. Thanks for reminding me.
DEI
Donald, Eric and Ivana?
