This is just one of the many reasons I have no interest in new cars. If it needs an internet connection then I’m not buying it. There are very few things I need my vehicle to be able to do and having access to internet isn’t one of them. I don’t even like that my truck has automatic wipers - I vastly prefer the traditional ones. Hell, I don’t even need the radio.
Honestly, fuck the whole thing, I’ll take my bike. With blackjack. And hookers.
Honestly, fuck the the bike, it will save you from purchasing a hooker
But then who will I play blackjack with?
Stop 👏 Buying 👏 New 👏 Shit 👏
I could run a whole community on how to recycle, reuse, repurpose. Why the hell are people buying new cars?!
Make that community. I’ll join up.
Yup. Keeping old cars going on fossil fuels is so much better than millions of new cars being built every year, and in order for them to be built they ship them around the world to seperate facilities. I could go on and on
Because I’ve seen what people do with their vehicles. I bought my car new 13 years ago and I’ve been able to make sure it’s been properly maintained the entire time and no one else’s crud is all over the interior. I intend to keep it until it falls apart. Prior to that I had a truck I bought used and got maybe 5 years out of it before the transmission died with only medium mileage. I had maintained it but who knows what the person before me did with it.
That said if nothing changes with all this touchscreen infotainment shit I don’t know what I’ll do. I’ve hated every new vehicle I’ve been in the last few years.
Disgusting. Why would anyone pay for that?
Easy, they call their cars something like renegade or maveric and some idiots pay 80k for that shitbox
I wanted a Jeep at some point. One of the nicer-looking models. A sand-yellow one, almost as good as a black g-wagon.
But yes, times change. I wanted one from the early 90s, maybe.
Sic transit gloria mundi.
Just you wait until the windshields become screens as well. Full windshield ads baybe!
In USSR, despite all its downsides, there was a huge upside - magazines like “Техника - молодежи” and various educational brochures of the practical kind, aimed at explaining how to really make something.
And also a certain culture of hobbies associated with that, I guess all the energy from boredom went there.
So - I’ve read about competitions of hobby-crafted cars then. Like 20 guys would make some (like half of it would be something used in usual Soviet cars, think Reagan and the 10 years joke) parts of a car in their garages and apartments (and even at work, if they worked on some factory, for example ; in general workplace in USSR was, eh, a bit more permanent of an association, so the border between personal life and work, including tools, was fuzzy), then assemble them.
I think that could even be registered as a legal means of transportation. At least from what I’ve heard there is (or was) a surprisingly liberal part of Russian laws, allowing you to register almost anything as a car and get a number, with some criteria passed. Maybe these two things are related.
Oh this is the first time I’ve seen this wiki in the wild, neat!
I’m curious what the customer agreement is for this? Is it in relatively plain sight or is this buried deep in the purchase agreement
Absolutely fucking not.
Though it does sound like a good kicker for the after market systems to make a comeback.
Custom flashes are probably more likely given the system integration of the head unit. UBlock for your car. How crazy is that?
Not a chance. The new ‘infotainment’ clusters integrate necessary features like climate control to prevent aftermarket replacements in most vehicles. I honestly don’t know if any manufacturers even use the single and double DIN standards anymore.
The Chinese won’t be stopped by that. CANBUS integration controlled by a poorly designed app coming to your (2-3 versions old) Android head unit!
Mazda is supposedly one of the last major automakers that has mostly physical controls in their cars. Definitely at the top of my list for any future car purchases.
My 2023 Mazda has a touch screen but you never actually have to touch it. In fact, they put it far enough away that it is difficult to touch while driving and disable the touch when the car is moving. There are knobs and buttons in-between the front seats that control it. Also none of the important stuff is controlled through the infotainment system, it is just settings, satnav, and radio (or Android Auto/carplay). Not having to interact with a touch surface while driving is one of my favorite features of my car, and there are a lot of other things that I love about it too.
I highly recommend Mazda if this is something you care about. I had a 2016 Mazda 3, and now I have a 2022 Mazda 3. The infotainment is all controlled though a physical knob and buttons, the climate control is all physical buttons. I am not sure if the screen is even a touch screen… I don’t think it is, but I have never attempted to touch it since I was so used to using the physical knob system in my old 2016. The physical buttons are why I picked my current 3 turbo up over the WRX I also tested. The WRX and the other Subaru’s I checked out all annoyed me with forcing use of the touch screen snd buttons to change the climate settings. I hope Mazda never changes that aspect of their cars. Not sure if the other models also do this, but I don’t see why they would.
Also, the climate control is all on smaller screen that just displays info with the climate system. The infotainment has nothing to do with the climate controls.
My 2018 Chev Trax may be the perfect level of tech for my tastes. Climate stuff is all physical, but it has a nice screen that you can hook a phone to through a USB or Bluetooth to pass maps/audio/calls through it with the audio and calls being controllable by buttons on the wheel.
The only actual car operation buttons on the screen are things you wouldn’t do when driving anyhow like decide if it locks automatically or setting the default volume.
Most obnoxious thing it does is keep reminding me that the sat radio subscription is expired when I start it.
Part of me is annoyed that I didn’t get a Mazda 3 when I got my car back in 2023, I got a 2021 Seat Leon FR PHEV Hatchback.
I like the Leon, but it has so much touch controls.
The worst is the controls for the fog lights, heated rear window and defrost.
They are all located on a small touch panel to the right of the steering wheel, it is also angled down making it harder to see.
So if I am driving and the windows start to fog up I need to take my eyes off the road and aim my finger to touch the correct button without touching any other controls as I might be blinding other drivers.
It is a terrible design.
The AC and battery management screens are all under different submenus on the infotainment screen.
The rest of the car is great though, and so far i have not seen any ads on the screen.
Mazda has been flying under the radar doing things right for a long time, in my experience.
I’m currently driving a 2012 Mazda3 that we bought new 13 years ago. It has been completely reliable while our 2013 Honda has needed some repairs. It is fuel efficient (40mg hwy), and it is still fun to drive. In the automatic transmission’s manual-shift mode the shift lever goes in the correct direction for driving dynamics (pull back to upshift, forward to downshift). In the normal automatic drive mode it seems to use an accelerometer to downshift when braking downhill.
My very first car was a mazda MX-6 from the late 80s with a 5-speed manual transmission. I bought it with 180,000 miles as a cheap junk “first car” and drove it for another 40,000 miles over the next few years. It needed some repairs, of course, but it was fun to drive and did a great job getting me around the state while I was in the late college to early independent adult years.
Now I’m middle aged and my drive to work is just a few miles via quiet twisty country road. I think I’m gonna get an MX-5 Miata next. 6-speed and soft top. That sounds nice.
For years I thought a fast dual motor EV sport sedan would be my next vehicle (whatever the non-Tesla model 3 performance equivalent would be) but a roadster would probably make it more fun to get up and leave the house. Plus so much cheaper and, given the small amount of miles I drive, probably more environmentally friendly. It would definitely generate a lot less microplastic pollution form the weight difference alone.
Despite no longer sticking to the DIN standard, and climate controls being integrated into the infotainment system, there still exists a big market for aftermarket infotaiment systems, they just have to be engineered for the specific make of car you have. But they can be bought for most cars that have infotaiment systems that are now outdated
I haven’t replaced a head unit in years, but I’m not surprised the proprietary systems require custom components for replacement. I can’t count the amount of head units I’ve replaced with my own ‘custom’ wire harness to save the $15 it cost for the Metra adapter. Lol
Uncle Teddy would definitely not approve of this.
Nor cousin luigi…
If you slam on the brakes it makes the ad extra large
“You almost ran over a five year old with your oversized vehicle, thanks for breaking! This segment is brought to you thanks to BetterHelp…”
or better yet “You just ran over a single mother while missing her child! this segment brought to you by BetterHelp, you’re gonna need it!”
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What’s really funny is that the only thing I even know about Barbara Streisand is that picture.
The Streisand Effect has immortalized her to a whole new generation.
I don’t understand how this is related to the Streisand Effect. The Streisand Effect is when you try to suppress unflattering info about yourself, and in the process you call attention to it, so now everyone knows. But we didn’t learn about this through Jeep trying to suppress the info, we just learned about it from people who saw the ads.
That is the photo Barbara Streisand attempted to have removed from the internet, the effeft gets its name from this event and photo.
Right, but… what does it have to do with Jeeps showing in-car advertisements?
Welcome to lemmy comments. Someone else incorrectly mentioned the Streisand effect so this guy decided to be cheeky and post just the photo.
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Cyberpunk 2077 here we come. except its just the Corpo shit.
Even 2077 didn’t have ads in your car.
No, but V’s apartment did have advertisements on the windows and a vending machine in the living room
This is why you need government. This is why you need regulations.
Corporations are evil pieces of shit that would have you watch ads without seatbelts and without air bags.
They’d grind you and your entire family into a powder if it made them a few bucks.
Fuck Jeep and their shitty tin cars.
This is why we need government that isn’t in the pocket of corporations.
We need something like lawmakers having to disclose their tax information annually. If you want to be in office and make millions you should be willing to put your morals on the review table.
they would have you watch ads without seatbelts and without air bags.
No, they would require you purchase these because their business can’t sell their products without them, but they’d make you pay a subscription for them to keep working, and when you stop paying the subscription, the car stops turning on until you pay your monthly airbag and seatbelt fee.
I thought this was a funny onion type of article… It isnt. Wtf
Our whole existence has turned into an Onion article.
It really has. And it’s getting worse every day. I wish that was hyperbole.
No fucking way. Not even if the car was free.
Now hold on there, I’d let them do the ads and the vehicle tracking bs if the car was nice and it was free.
If I’m buying the car, there’s no fucking way.
If it’s a Jeep the screen and audio might break on their own anyway
Ok, I’ll bite.
Did OP just time travel 25 years and post something from Slashdot?
I mean fark.com is still kicking, last I checked. I feel like some of these old sites are the web equivalent of BIFL products.
Replied to a comment there today; can confirm it’s alive.
I was just thinking the slashdot used to be a massive source of traffic across the internet.
And now it’s a sink. How times change.
