So glad I didn’t buy a Jeep.
See, they’re probably just framing it in negative terms. Just has to be presented in the right way.
https://www.telenav.com/blog/why-in-car-advertising-works
Why In-Car Advertising Works
For over two decades, advertising has fueled the online and mobile world. What can it do for your car?
Advertising is worth it to the consumer.
In-car ads are a win-win for drivers and automakers.
In-car ads can also be rather helpful while on the drive.
As a matter of fact, a recent McKinsey Report [Monetizing Car Data, McKinsey & Company September 2016] indicates that most consumers would prefer ads for connected navigation service.
The way to think of it isn’t “ads come up whenever my car stops”, but “ads go away whenever it starts moving!”
Drivers will never see an ad while their vehicles are in motion. Ads automatically disappear whenever the car is moving or when users interact with other in-dash functions. For example, when a driver starts her vehicle, a relevant ad will appear on her dashboard. The moment the driver shifts into reverse to back out the driveway, the ad automatically disappears.
How far up your own ass do you have to be to actually believe that people actually want ads?
Well technically you can block ads as long as your phone or other device that works as hotspot/Wi-Fi tethering has adblocker that runs on root level since car need network to connect it.
On root level adblocker nothing can escape even the sneakiest ads will got blocked (as long as your adblocker has feature like uBlock origin filters & you have matching filters)Vehicles have their own modems now
Pihole at home with a personal VPN (wireguard, tailscale, head scale, etc) that routes all your phone traffic through it.
Works pretty good, and you can always add additional blacklists if something still gets through.
Ad-free but perfect for profiling. This allows devices from the entire network to be assigned to at least 1 person. Wirehuard@home -> pihole (only allow the permitted connections to the device with pihole and no other access in the network) -> wireguard@trustworthyvpn.
I personally used adguard & adaway to block ads on my phone, if i want to block ads on another device I just tethered phoje Wi-Fi to target device.
Even nowadays i still used my phone as portable router to block ads & tracker when i used my laptop
I would rip my screen off the dash
You can’t, they control major parts of the car and cost thousands to replace when they inevitably fail.
It’s over $10k in Australia for a Corolla infotainment system, the cars won’t drive without one, once the infotainment systems die in the future the cars are scrap metal.
This is not that new.
Android auto would allow apps to play ads when the car was in park.
After using the ad support version of Pandora for most of a decade, when the full screen video ad popped up on my 2016 work truck, it was immediately and permanently uninstalled. I used 128gb microSD in my phone instead.
I’ve never used a streaming service for music again.
Yeah, that’s another thing that bugs me about products that can be remotely-updated and especially those which don’t currently represent an ongoing revenue stream. I think that it’s a broader problem, too, not just cars.
I was kind of not enthusiastic when I discovered that TenCent bought the video game Oxygen Not Included and started pushing data-harvesting updates into it via Steam. As things stand, that’s optional. But any company could do the same with other games and not have it be optional. If you figure that all the games out there that have already been sold aren’t actually generating revenue but do represent the option to push and execute code on someone’s computer, they have value to some other company that could purchase them and monetize that.
Then you figure that the same applies to browser extensions.
And apps on phones.
And all those Internet of Things devices that can talk to the network, cameras and microphones and all sorts of stuff.
There’s a lot of room for people to sit down and say “what I have is a hook into someone else’s stuff…now what things might I do to further monetize that? Or who might I sell that hook to who might be interested in doing that?”
Like, if I buy a product, all I can do when I make my purchasing decision is to evaluate the product as it is at purchase time. If the vendor also has the ability and right to change that product whenever they want, then what I’m actually buying is a pretty big question mark. And unless they’ve got some kind of other revenue stream on the line, their only real incentive to avoid doing so is the reputational hit they take…which for failing brands or companies, may not be all that large.
One constraint for efficient markets is that the consumers in it need to be informed as to what they’re buying. If they don’t have that property, you can get market failure. And a consumer can’t be informed about what he’s buying if the person selling them the product can change that product at any point after purchase.
The ad bubble needs to pop.
We need people to stop buying shit if they’ve seen an ad for it.
Somehow
I doubt that will do anything at all tbh.
Businesses believe advertising works, i believe it’s just a way for other businesses to substract money from them.
I keep getting ads for polestar cars like i can afford that shit, or gambling like it’s something i do regularly (never have and never will) or i get ads for the exact basket i just paid for 2 minutes ago as if i need another load of it (i don’t, obviously).
I just decided I’ll never buy a jeep.
These kinds of decisions are unilateral. You don’t go in this direction without that being the overarching goal.
Zero tolerance for this shit. Put ads in something I own, and I’ll sell it, trash it, never buy it again.
This should be a death rattle for any brand to even consider.
Fuck Jeep.
But… but Stelantis is working to reduce the frequency of the ads! Don’t you know that the company that implemented this practice is witerawally powerless to stop it, they’re doing everything they can to make this change (that they made) better for EVERYONE, because they understand our frustration and they care 🥺👉🏽👈🏽
I’ll buy a jeep but it will have to be at least 20 years old.
20 is a funny way to spell 40.
Fuck it, I’ll only buy a Jeep that was used in D Day
All right, these are some pretty cool Jeeps.
I hate to make such a sweeping generalization (but here goes!), but many of the Jeep drivers I’ve encountered on the road have already brought me to the same conclusion.
You spelled concussion wrong
What was the one with premium subscription for heated seats? I think it was Mercedes.
…and I think Audi dabbled in this area but backed down.
Ao that’s Mercedes, Audi, and Jeep I’ll never buy from, and obviously Tesla too.
EDIT Oh dear, it’s so much worsethan I knew:
https://www.google.com/search?q=car+companies+with+subscription+services
TOYOTA how could you???
Clearly, the problem is that they went with a pure subscription model instead of also having an ad-supported model. Like, supposing that you’re allowed to turn on the seat heater, but then the car starts playing advertisements while it’s running. They could offer a premium seat heater subscription if you want to buy an ad-free experience.
shakes head sorrowfully
They aren’t very innovative.
I think you mean, “…a premium seat heater subscription … for a reduced-ad experience.”
Subaru does this.
The seat subscription? I didn’t know about this
I have to pay for Subaru-brand OnStar before the heated seats are even an option. I didn’t know the seats were subscription when I bought the car, they just said OnStar was free for a year.
Must have started recently? I have a 21 and the seat warmers are included although I don’t use them often because I don’t like seat warmers
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The subscription to heated seats was BMW.
Ford execs have floated it too
edit: that google search isn’t very specific to what we’re talking about here, which is a subscription to access features that are physically installed in the vehicle
We used to own a 2008-ish Wrangler, and it’s the single worst car anyone in my family has ever owned. There wasn’t one redeeming quality about this vehicle, except for that it makes you look like an asshole, and apparently some people are into that
I mean… I loved offroading and rock crawling when I had my 2012 Wrangler. But, the ad thing means I’ll never buy a newer one
I can’t wait for every vehicle to introduce this, thus leading to a perverse incentive whereby drivers go out of their way to avoid stopping as much as possible. How could it go wrong?
Just sit at the lights with the brake and accelerator pressed at the same time 👍 what could go wrong?
That would reduce fuel usage.
I bet that those ad guys haven’t even considered or promoted the fact that they can reduce carbon emissions.
I love my Jeep, but I couldn’t imagine why anyone would buy a modern one.
Whoever designed their headrests does not have a human shaped skull
Completely unsurprising while at the same time completely unfuckingreal
That can’t be safe.
Jeep hasn’t made a ‘safe’ car in their entire existence, why start now?
This needs to be put to a stop, seriously.
We live in a world of no regulation (or, to be precise, no enforcement on regulations) but…
Holy shit? Stopping is the one time you actually SHOULD look at your infotainment screen to futz with climate control or check how many minutes until the next exit and so forth.
Article Summery:
In a move that has left drivers both frustrated and bewildered, Stellantis has introduced full-screen pop-up ads on its infotainment systems. Specifically, Jeep owners have reported being bombarded with advertisements for Mopar’s extended warranty service. The kicker? These ads appear every time the vehicle comes to a stop. Imagine pulling up to a red light, checking your GPS for directions, and suddenly, the entire screen is hijacked by an ad. That’s the reality for some Stellantis owners. Instead of seamless functionality, drivers are now forced to manually close out of ads just to access basic vehicle functions.
One Jeep 4xe owner recently shared their frustration on an online forum, detailing how these pop-ups disrupt the driving experience. Stellantis, responding through their “JeepCares” representative, confirmed that these ads are part of the contractual agreement with SiriusXM and suggested that users simply tap the “X” to dismiss them. While the company claims to be working on reducing the frequency of these interruptions, the damage to customer trust may already be done.
“you agreed to display ads on your vehicles. This vehicle is mine. You may not display ads in it.”
Honestly I’d have a lawyer on the phone in a heartbeat. I’d be surprised if someone hasn’t already started a lawsuit.
This isn’t a new thing because even my decade old Toyota car with the SirusXM car radio automatically switches to the XM 1 radio station that advertises the SirusXM subscription service about once a month ever since I cancelled the subscription a year after the original three month one expired. Fuck that company and their monthly resubscribtion demand letters also!
Hmm. I think that this is maybe kind of a fundamental problem with buying something that you want to keep with attached hardware from a company with a subscription service that you don’t want.
Burn Stellantis to the fucking ground.
