Hell, a lot of Americans still have your
banksbacks.I hope that is a typo.
ROFL, yes it is. But given the current state of the government here nabbing federal government budgets, it’s a hilariously ill-timed one!
Uh, a lot of Americans want to join up
If any country started invading the US, they would face fierce resistance from every household they attempt to pass.
Except Canada. Canada’s numbers would swell as they moved through the US. They’d get handed free guns.
Most Americans have your back too…it’s just our messed up voting and education systems that let the lunatic fringe gain all the power. For a representative democracy, it really doesn’t represent the people.
Hell yeah, im just waiting for a blue state to announce intention to secede and join the EU. But that might be messy.
;(
A messy dream.
States cant secede without war. It is a kinda silly dream anyway. It is better to let the red states rot and have a display of how their ideals fail and how blue states flourish, then take our country back, then go through the insane process of digging out the roots and backdoors they are rushing to put in place as we speak
According the most recent elections, most Americans don’t.
There has to be a point where Americans who don’t support chaos stop saying “this isn’t who we really are” and start admitting “huh, I guess we’re assholes now.”
Elections tell you, semi-accurately, what THE VOTING POPULOUS WANTED OR WAS FOOLED INTO BACKING. So you got data on less than 40% of the population and half were against this.
So, the American populace are fools. That doesn’t really help matters. This isn’t some minority thing, it’s half or nearly half of the population.
You wanna meet up in the laneway and rip a couple clappers at the garage door while smokin’ darts, well count me in.
France here, oui bien sûr!
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Relou de recréer un compte, je ne savais pas qu’elle existait en découvrant Lemmy :(
Hey, Canada! Have you considered EU membership?
That would actually be hilarious
And not even impossible. The EU council and commission can basically freely decide if a state counts as “European”.
I think the biggest hurdle might be that Canada would immediately be the 5th most powerful member state because of their population.
40 is three million more than Ukraine, both in between Spain and Poland. Having a couple more mid-sized countries would enable integration of Turkey which eeks out Germany in terms of population.
The EU is talking to Turkey about membership (on and off…), and I would say that Canada is more European than Turkey.
Canada even shares a border with Europe, so I would say it’s close enough.
And a continental plate
Actual membership for Turkey hasn’t been a serious option for a long time. Turkey knows it, EU knows it. There simply is no other label than “candidate” that could better describe what TR means to the EU. They want to keep it as close as possible, and TR benefits from it, a lot. A symbiosis, if you will. As for the Switzerland model, the EU clearly stated, multiple times, that they don’t want to repeat the unholy mess of relations they created with CH and, in fact, would rather transform it to something in line with stock EU foreign policy.
As the EU mostly does not decide population based but with equal votes per country that wouldn’t be an issue.
The larger issue is the fact that the European and US regulations clash in a lot of things so it would be harder for Canadian companies to export to the US then.
But otherwise: We would absolutely welcome you.
Canada-US trade agreements not looking so binding ATM.
If the orange turd rips it up at will, the Canadian government should too
it would be harder for Canadian companies to export to the US then.
I don’t think that’s gonna be a problem soon
We still use the u’s (colour, etc.). Is that a prerequisite?
That just shows that you did not fall into the degenerate ways of your southern neighbours.
We didn’t know we had that option. But hell yeah… what do we have to do? Make Google and Apple put a “West Europe” label over Canada?
“West West Europe”
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I would honestly be stoked
I don’t think Canada should fully be in the EU, but some kind of set of bilateral arrangements like Switzerland has would be a good start.
Since Canada has lots of historical ties with the UK, it might work out well to have some kind of arrangement with the UK, Canada and the EU. That would let Britain start to undo some of the damage from Brexit, while also allowing Canada to reinforce those ties to the UK.
Uk here, for sure.
Australia too, we got ya…
From the UK and personally, 100% yes but not sure I feel the rest of the population would agree. I mean, a lot of us turned our backs on the EU and there’s a lot of cross over with US right wing nutters.
However, I would believe that when push comes to shove, we would be generally willing to defend Canada, Australia and NZ over anyone else, and then European countries at the next level. The reaction in support for Ukraine was pretty universal here and there are still lots of donations and support that is not shared with any African, Asian or Central/South American countries having similar problems.
Basically, you’re white so yes you can count on us!
Well we do have the same King as the UK does. That counts for something doesn’t it?
That’s a very good point and can’t believe I didn’t think of that! Surely the British army would have to protect “his majesty’s realm” or some bollocks like that.
I just read that Canada hosts Britain’s largest overseas base, although it seems to be for training purposes.
“Basically, you’re white so yes you can count on us!“
Russia?
If we rolled back a decade, Putin wasn’t around and something happened like idk, China invaded western Russia, I can imagine us helping Russia.
I should change it to “your population is mostly white so yes you can count on us”. I say this as an English born non-white person who has seen the differences in public reactions to Ukraine and other conflicts (Syria, various African ones, Gaza etc). Can’t say for certain it’s because of this reason but certainly feels like it!
I’m sure for some (sad and backwards) people it is a racially motivated position - but for many others I think it has more to do with cultural and geographical proximity.
But then our elected representatives go and fuck up the Middle East… I don’t know.
As an aside, do you know my favourite rugby chant? I’ve heard it at Wales v England rugby games:
“I’d rather wear a turban than a rose, I’d rather wear a turban than a rose, I’d rather wear a turban, I’d rather wear a turban, I’d rather wear a turban than a rose.”
I have a Russian friend who lives in (south) Wales and when he first arrived (10-15 years ago) he couldn’t understand non-white people being Welsh. Years later he realised that a green person born in Newport is already more Welsh than he’ll ever be.
The UK is a very contradictory bastard union that has - so far - somehow managed to stay in one piece.
Something something Emmanuel Todd and endogamous communal family structures, the tight internal clan bonds competing with and thus preventing the creation of a strong overarching identities vs. almost exclusively non-communal structures in Europe (and where there’s communalism it’s not as strong as in the Arab world, and definitely not endogamous), leading to strong overarching civil societies and identities. Very different assumptions about how society should be organised on a very fundamental, structural, level.
In those terms Europe is culturally way closer to e.g. Japan (just as much stem family structures as e.g. Ireland and lots of Scandinavian and German regions, some in France) than we are to the Arab world. Arabs actually integrating here means, for them, to flip an internal switch, saying something like “oh now my clan is my region, and my profession a secondary one”, and that is hard to do because a) you don’t actually know most of those people, while you know at least about everyone in your original clan, and b) you’re in a foreign land, not understanding what binds people together even though they might not know each other directly, also c) your family clan is still expecting you to be part of it, and not just in the “come to your cousin’s marriage” way. Lots of non-prejudicial cultural friction that especially people from absurdly individualist societies like the US don’t understand because they don’t have an overarching society in the first place. Both sides think the other is weird AF.
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They don’t even have their own backs. Look at their military spending. It’s pretty low.
They have nukes as defence.
Nukes don’t replace boots on the ground.
Nobody cared about boots on the ground when MAD Theory kept the Cold War cold.
Fuck trump. Canadians are our friends and family.
Fuck trump. Canadians are our friends and family.
As an American, I agree with this message 100%.
Northern Brit here: we have to have each other’s backs. The only way we’re getting off Mr Bones’ Wild Ride is together ❤️ we can do this.
Resist. Rebel. Revolt. ✊
I want to get off Mr Bones’ Wild Ride, I’m tired
They where supposed to have Ukraines back but we’ve seen how spinless the Europeans are when it comes to standing up to empires.
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Absolutely. Never met a Canadian I didn’t like.
Let’s see… The UK…who needed America to get involved to end WW2 and France who are literally a meme for surrendering these days (despite having the greatest military track record of any nation still standing).
I’m sure they got your back. Lol.
That’s … an interesting take on history. It seems filtered and has a weird PoV.
Maybe brush up a bit, okay?
Back then, nukes didn’t exist.
Just donate some nukes to Canada, and Canada can threaten M.A.D. if it capitulated.
Listen I would give Canada some nukes, but something tells me America is currently not inclined to give Canada anything lol.
Bruh, we were literally talking about the UK and France, both are nuclear powers, they have plenty of warheads. Did you not know that? 🤦♂️
You don’t need a lot, just like 20 warheads will kneecap the entire US.
They don’t even have to use it, just threaten to use it.
Yes thank you captain obvious. I know how mutually assured destruction works.
I am very aware that both the UK and France have nukes. The way he worded his comment I thought he was talking about America giving Canada nukes, but the UK and/or France make more sense given the hypothetical posed by the original post. I was responding to the comment while I was on the phone. Divided attention n all that.
Dont talk down to people like that. Its condescending and you have no idea how intelligent anyone actually is based off one comment. You know what they say about making assumptions.
Something something we all get some ass.
You need to start understanding that the US is not the defender of democracy anymore. When people talk of protecting democracy, no one is thinking of getting from the US because you’re the ones we’re trying to defend against. With each passing day your country is becoming the enemy of democracy.
I know this may be difficult to accept, but the US may become the great villains of the 21st century just as the Nazis were the villains of the 20th. We all hope that that won’t happen, but we see the signs and we have to be prepared to defend democracy from US aggression.
Reading comprehension is hard
Ya think France has nukes in Saint Pierre and Miquelon?
I doubt it, but that could change.
That’s a very fair and excellent question. Now I’m wondering that too.
Good point. I hope they do.
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Nothing to see here, though. That, um, was a tall subterranean grain elevator. Thanks for thinking of us. Yeah, great weather we’re having.
The whole point of a Doomsday Machine is lost, if you keep it a secret!
Just a NATO excercise… 😅
these days
(Comment has time traveled 80 years)
Not when they surrendered dingus. The meme/joke that Frances official flag is a white flag has been going around since I was a kid in the 90s and both my little brothers also know that meme.
not all of us Americans are as fucking dumb as ^ this guy.
Your right. Ur way more stupider than me.
I don’t think France would be deterred by (what generally seems to be) an American meme
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Is it only a meme in American spaces? I learned the meme from my German family growing up so I thought it was at least a meme in general.
France is only a meme if you know nothing about history, and assuming you’re American (as if that isn’t extremely obvious) that sounds about right
What an incredibly deep ignorance about the modern world.
If you’re curious about how countries militaries actually stack up these days I’d suggest looking into the results of some of the recent NATO joint exercises. The French military is actually quite formidable with a lot of recent heavy intervention in old colonies and anti terrorism strike force actions lately… now, nothing can really compare to the insane US military budget but France is pretty fucking serious.
The UK is a joke, though.
The real sleeping bears are the Baltics though. Those fucks are scared shitless of Russia and have heavily invested in widespread training in an effort to present Russia with an occupational nightmare due to partisan resistance if they ever invade.
As a contrast while China has a shit load of stuff there was a massive amount of military supply corruption leading to a really high practical failure rate. They’ve got infantry for days of course, and their navy is quite serious… but there’s a strong suspicion that China’s airforce is much weaker than numbers would suggest.
UK and France both have nukes. They just need to let Canada borrow a few for a while if Trump starts mobilizing the US military for a special operation.
This is also kinda interesting… https://www.pm.gc.ca/en/news/news-releases/2025/01/28/canada-poland-nuclear-energy-cooperation-agreement
It would normally be a nothing burger… except for the timing of it. Poland and Canada both getting threatened by nuclear powers, and when Canada’s PM is on his way out and there’s a whole bunch of other shit going on he randomly finds the time to go over to Poland to make agreements on both defense and nuclear energy. Maybe nothing, but it’s a bit odd, isn’t it?
Their navy is trash. Where are you getting your facts?
Looks good on a spreadsheet tho. Lots and lots of ships.
But you’re right, their ships are crap. Quantity over quality.
And limited capability
