• shutz@lemmy.ca
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      7 days ago

      Unlikely, but there’s always jury nullification. Which I just realized would be recorded as a “not guilty” verdict, though the implication is “he did it, but we think it’s OK”

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    I don’t have an opinion on if he was the shooter. I do have the opinion that the shooter is an American hero though.

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      Yeah. So let me get this right, this dude planned everything, but didn’t throw away any proof. Instead he kept every single thing on him, even with a note about how he doesn’t want to cause the police much trouble, but once he’s caught he denies everything? Wat?

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        Where has he denied doing the shooting? He’s pled not guilty to specific charges like first degree murder and terrorism; that doesn’t preclude him from having done the shooting in question.

        The former and latter behaviour also occurred before and after receiving legal advice, respectively.

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        ^ this is why education is important. Please learn about your country’s punitive systems.

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    No, but it doesn’t really matter. The government has selected its scapegoat. I just hope that the jurors understand what jury nullification is before they go in. Gawd knows the courts don’t want anyone funding out.

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    I haven’t seen enough of the evidence to know. I feel like everyone in power has decided he’s guilty, but there hasn’t been a trial. I don’t think it’s wrong for people to have their opinions on a personal level about his guilt, but I am not willing to at this point. Honestly I was leaning towards guilty until I saw how the cops were parading him around. I don’t trust that behavior.

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    Meh. A bad dude died. The bad dude’s actions resulted on the order of at least >1 death/ day. If not for their death, we couldn’t be having this broader conversation on what we can do to “solve” the billionaire problem. Even if it involves the sacrifice of one innocent person, its probably all been worth it, and will continue to be if the pattern continues.

    losing two peoples < losing many people + starting a broader movement

    Its a net gain regardless.

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    It’s really funny how people started off saying as a joke it wasn’t him/eyebrows look different, as a sort of protest against his arrest.

    And then people started to take the jokes seriously, and now we have a massive conspiracy theory that like a third of people on lemmy believe it isn’t him, lol.

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      The first pic of the person actually at the scene of the crime looks significantly less like Mangione than the other ones. I don’t believe it’s a coincidence they stopped showing those once they had their sights set on a suspect. I don’t think it was a joke that people were saying that very first picture looked different.

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        How does “it” work, exactly? Should I work under the assumption that everyone who is accused of a crime is innocent?

        Why lie about it? You really think with the infinite resources available to the gov that they couldn’t figure out who shot a CEO on a busy NYC street in broad daylight?

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          You really think with the infinite resources available to the gov that they couldn’t figure out who shot a CEO on a busy NYC street in broad daylight?

          You really think that the infinite (human) resources in the gov care about putting the effort to find the actual shooter, when they can just manipulate all media and make the scapegoat feel real?

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              When you have a hammer in hand, everything looks like a nail.

              When selling a lie is the skill an org has put the most XP in, that’s what they seek to do first.

              Also, I see some group of competitors finding out that the guy had some plan to get on top and decided to off him first.

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                When you have a hammer in hand, everything looks like a nail.

                I don’t think you understand this analogy. There is a nail. You’re suggesting they’re driving the nail into the wrong board on purpose for no reason.

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                  Let’s go by: Because they didn’t learn to use a screw driver properly, they went with the hammer.

                  Also, alternatively, if the “competitor’s job” assumption is correct, then of course they want to keep the actual actors out of the investigation and away from media.

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          Should I work under the assumption that everyone who is accused of a crime is innocent?

          Innocent until proven guilty is what the law is SUPPOSED to do. I personally think he did it, but shouldn’t be punished.