Summarized: The article discusses former Finnish Prime Minister Sanna Marin’s views on Europe’s response to the Ukraine war. Marin argues that it is morally and strategically unacceptable for Russia to outspend Ukraine on defense. She suggests that Europe could close the resource gap between Ukraine and Russia by allocating just 0.2% of its GDP. Marin emphasizes that supporting Ukraine is a matter of will and that Europe must take leadership in its own security. She also notes that Europe can no longer rely solely on transatlantic cooperation for its defense. Marin’s comments were made in the context of a report by the Tony Blair Institute for Global Change, where she now works as a strategic advisor.
And why does it go back to the American voters that Europe has democratically chosen time after time to ditch defence spending and push the tab on the US?
FFS, the American Left has been begging for us to get out of the “World Police” mindset for decades now. The US exiting NATO and not getting involved in another European “you’re the wrong type of white person” ethnic conflict is a decidedly good thing for everyone who isn’t a wealthy Western Euro’n.
The “world police” issue is when America gets involved uninvited and clearly with ulterior motives. This is an entirely different situation
“world police” means doing police work at a global level.
Police fundamentally exist so that individuals can outsource their security to the state. Police disincentivize coercion by maintaining the ability to do violence and doing violence on those who use violence. It allows individuals to not have to think about physical in order to move freely.
“world police” means one country’s military defending other countries so that those countries don’t have to maintain a military or handle their own security.
The meaning of the phrase is inherent to the phrase’s word: it just means playing a police role (punishing aggression between third parties to maintain a peaceful atmosphere) for the world (planet Earth).
Oh ffs. Obama was all over NATO countries trying to get them to up their defense spending.
The US exiting NATO is exactly what a useful idiot would want.
Did Obama succeed?
Piss off. You were saying how the left was begging to get out of NATO.
I most certainly was not.
You know, you’re right. I read it quickly and thought it was that other cunt.
Europe is spending more than America to help Ukraine.
Source that any individual European nation is spending more towards Ukraine defense than the US? Or are you saying “Trade organization of some of the world’s wealthiest countries 1.5x the size of the US is spending more on blankets and Tylenol than America”?
No individual European country is, but you and I both said “Europe”, not “a European country”. I’m saying that of the support Ukraine has received, most of it is from Europe. In terms of different categories of military equipment, though? Yeah, the US has often been outspent. In terms of value sent by individual countries, Poland has sent the most tanks and Germany has sent the most howitzers and anti-air systems. Sweden has nearly matched the US for IFVs. Even if you completely ignore the costs of supporting the Ukrainian government financially, giving homes to all of the Ukrainian refugees, and paying for humanitarian work in Ukraine — all of which are absolutely necessary for the war effort — the only way you can think that Europe isn’t doing anything is if you’ve just never looked.
Source: https://www.ifw-kiel.de/topics/war-against-ukraine/ukraine-support-tracker
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from that link: