Summary
Trump is pushing for softer language on Russia’s war in Ukraine, straining G7 unity.
Officials say the U.S. is blocking references to “Russian aggression” and prefers calling it the “Ukraine conflict.”
This shift follows Trump’s peace talks with Putin that excluded Ukraine’s President Zelensky, whom Trump later called a “dictator.”
The change in rhetoric contrasts with Biden-era support for Ukraine and threatens a unified G7 stance.
Do what they did to Russia, kick the US the fuck out and start calling it the G6. It was the G8 from 1997 to 2014, they can stand to lose another.
The US is literally trying to kickstart an economic depression in the US. Why the fuck would you want these guys in economics talks when they clearly understand FUCK ALL about economics? A US depression will fuck up the rest of the world’s economics as well, and that’s clearly the long-term goal.
“The US” isnt doing anything. Trump and his scumbags are destroying everything.
When Trump does something, the party that controls House, Senate and Supreme court follows his marching orders, the richest and most influential individuals act as his lieutenants, almost half of the country agree with it, and the other half doesn’t resist or strike, then YES! THE US DOES THE THING!
The Nazis didn’t have 100% popular support in Germany. They didn’t have 50% active supporters. They had 10% party membership, even though non-members couldn’t enter a career in many fields, were harassed by authorities, and lots of people were entered into the party automatically.
Still, it was NAZI GERMANY.AND… within Nazi Germany, were real Germans who stood against Nazism, however they could…
there are a few books on that, “An Honorable Defeat” is one I’ve heard-of.
Oversimplification is anti-survival: it is just another ideology/prejudice/“religion”.
The US, the official US, is now Trump’s property, & Trump ( CURRENTLY ) is Putin’s property, & Musk’s.
I expect Trump to have a minor aneurism/stroke or something, which will remove empathy from him, completely.
( he’s fighting that personality-conversion, in my view )
But no matter how psychopathic/machiavellian/nihilist/sadistic the official US becomes, there’s good people there.
( remember that biblical thing, can’t remember who it was, perhaps Abraham,
who argued with G-D, that if there are good people there, then don’t destroy the place?
I think he was doing the wrong-selectivity: he should have been demanding that they, the good people,
be spared the destruction that G-D was about to toss on the evil…
& if it was the Sodom & Gomorrah story,
then as I’ve pointed-out before, if the angels visiting the good guy who lived there had been female angels,
& the gang-rapers trying to get in had been intending heterosexual-rape,
that would not, in any way, whatsoever, have made their intent non-evil.
It wasn’t their sexual-orientation, it was the gang-raping-angels, that made it abomination.
Anyways, back to the original message : )
Back on reddit I was permabanned from some communities, simply for posting in specific-other communities.
The Problem™ I had with that?
I’d been commenting in those other communities specifically to counter the abuse they were heaping on somebody.
So, I got judged to be one-of-the-abusers because of the venue I’d spoken in, which I’d spoken-in only to counter its abuse…
I’ve been gaslit all my life, & am fed-up with it.
Differentiate correctly, & don’t abuse the innocent, is one of the rules-of-life I live by, now.
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From this day forth he will be known as Trumputin.
“The US” refers to the US government.
Nooooooo
You could say that the first time Trump was elected. Not anymore.
I don’t know if anyone has noticed, but theyve been firing everyone in the government. The government is being dismantled.
Who voted for that? Or alternatively, who didn’t care enough to vote against it?
I meant the “America isn’t doing it” part. They certainly are.
You’re missing the point.
I don’t think I am.
Then you simply didn’t understand, or are refusing to understand.
There’s an Arabic saying that roughly translated goes something like this: Sins are wide and good deeds are narrow. The meaning is that when a large part of a group of people is sinful, just not being implicated in sin doesn’t protect you; you have to work to stop or you have no business trying to be excused from whatever punishment will come. In other words, you gotta work to stop the evil being done or you’re well within the moral blast radius. So… That’s what’s going on here; with this framework more than 99% of America is guilty.
I think the Dems are more guilty of being foolish, than of intentionally-accommodating “GEOTUS”…
Biden blocked Harris from campaigning until it was too-late, & … whatshername … Pelosi’s threat to destroy Biden’s campaign was the only thing which finally pried his hands off the opportunity…
They lived entirely-within Hopium.
They … mostly, or nearly-all, possibly-all, … aren’t going to survive the US Civil War Part2 which will erupt when it becomes enacted that there isn’t going to be any 2028 election, or sometime around then, anyways…
I don’t expect much of the population of this continent to survive the next decade…
& many have worked, hard, at preventing this…
The male-supremacists & the white-supremacists who voted against Harris, THEY are guilty, certainly…
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I mean, can’t we go back to the way that the Dems refused to see that Hillary was not popular, and how party leaders actively intervened to make sure that no one resembling an actual Dem (Bernie) got the nomination?
I think that’s really where the writing was on the wall - sabotage a popular candidate with the kind of populist support that we saw launch Trump into office, to platform someone who was probably one of the most hated women in America?
If I recall correctly, it’s about destabilizing the Dollar and making their (China and Russia’s) financial system become the world standard…
It all comes down to money. It always does.
Blow it apart. America doesn’t belong with its former Allies.
Its clear that America has no interest in being apart of the free world, they checked out.
Now fuck off and go destroy yourselves in a frenzy over transgender bathroom doors and eggs. The rest of us still have lives to live and futures to protect.
So making peace with russia is destroying the free world, but letting Ukraine and russia have a forever war isn’t?
You would suck your abusive boyfriend’s dick with one black eye because you’d be stupid enough to believe him when tells you that if you do, he wouldn’t give you a second.
Go touch some grass because you clearly lack the brain cells to participate in a qualified discussion of any kind.
Appeasement doesn’t work. We know that from WWII.
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What kind of dumb ass uninformed comment is this. We all want the war to end. But with freedom, not more oppression
He was giving us the approved view from St. Petersburg.
Right?
Russia could end the war it started right now. And leave. It chooses not to.
Then European countries need to fight. Ukraine can’t win alone.
Yes, because appeasing an agressor only begats more aggression.
…and daughter for a good night yes?
…OK but only the tip and only for a minute…Melania! Get over here!
…no Mr Trump, I mean daughter. The pretty one.
… Okay fine, I’ll pull some strings. Probably dome G-strings. Okay, and you get us germanium?
… Yes Mr. Trump you may keep Germany
…No Mr Putin, you miss understood. We wa…
… You’ll get Germany yes. I’m sorry I have to go now. I make love to your daughter and then return. I’ll return next month. Bye!
G7/G6/G8.
Who cares it’s a eurocentric club anyway.
G20 is the real global conference.
This just in, the known russian puppet, trump, is a russian puppet.
Got me feelin’ so fly, like a G6
They should kick him out when he shows up for that threat
Trump about to become the next victim of British Intelligence …
But I couldn’t vote for Harris because that was a vote for genocide.
Yeah that was some really really stupid shit people were saying.
To be fair, most Americans do fall for things pretty easily when all they have to do is literally nothing
Humans in general. Tell people that “doing nothing” is the moral action and they’ll sure as fuck do nothing, because it’s the path of least resistance.
Coming from a country with ranked voting and more than 2 parties, this looks so ridiculous. It’s like the USA electoral system is designed to make people bicker amongst themselves about who is the lesser evil, while oligarchs take control.
What style of ranked voting does your country use?
Veritasium, on yt ( not a guy I recommend frequently ) has a vid on election-systems.
Approval-disapproval seems to be the sanest electing-system there is…
All the ranked-choice-systems logically have problems, though no-where near as bad as 1st-past-the-post idiocy.
Please, people, if you’re interested in the sanest voting-system possible, watch that video, & then organize to replace your system with the currently-best-option, which seems, from that vid, to be the approval/disapproval system.
( it makes the most-approved person win, and one can approve-of multiple different candidates, so the majority-of-voters get heard, no-matter-what, see? )
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I actually prefer the CGP grey videos on the different types of voting. But they are both very good at entry level understandings of the topics.
Seems like you understand it just fine then.
In maybe the most important race of this country’s history, Harris couldn’t bring herself to denounce genocide and war crimes like a decent human being and instead chose to support a corrupt, fascist foreign nation that more closely resembles Nazi Germany than another country today.
Party loyalists tut-tut at the voters and learn exactly nothing, yet again.
Party loyalists tut-tut at the voters and learn exactly nothing, yet again.
The non-voters voted in Trump who is trying to be more fascist and corrupt than the other country you’re alluding to.
Nah, the Democrats did that.
The democrats who voted surprisingly voted for Harris so I don’t know what you’re on about.
The Democrats politicians who didn’t put Trump away and refuses to let go of their billionaire money for the sake of most important election the US is facing yet are the ones who voted Trump in. Blaming the non-voters is just playing into the oligarch’s hand.
In our system the votes get counted to figure out who won so the non-voters said they are okay with what’s happening.
So the non-voters all have future sight and can already see that Trump will win? Maybe what they actually thought was that neither side will actually help them and they are not informed enough to know that Trump will win without their help, have you ever thought about that? Seems all you actually care about is helping the oligarchy, so maybe you don’t even care to think.
Officials say the U.S. is blocking references to “Russian aggression” and prefers calling it the “Ukraine conflict.”
“Ukraine conflict.”
“Women.”
“Freedom.”
G6 it is then. After NATOTWO is set up
NATWO
2 NATO 2 FURIOUS
2 NATOs 1 Cup
NATOWO
NATUwU what’s this?
I was really enjoying these Nat-alternatives and you had to ruin it.
You misspelled “enhance” <3
Maybe it is time to modernise it
😍NA😝TO😱💯💯 no cap
Is that a HIMARS in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?
Maybe since it’s mostly just the northeast Atlantic now, it should be NEATO.
Southwest from the European pov. SWATO.
Canada and Greenland have most of the north covered even without the US, so the name still works.
Also maybe EUaC (EU and Canada)? 🥹
According to Alnur Mussayev, 6th Directorate of the KGB in Moscow, Don was recruited by the KGB in 1987 and given the codename Krasnov.
Drop the USA and change the metting to the G6 + California until Jan 2029.
Hey, guy, do you need a tissue? You have a little cum on your face.
The fuck is G7 anyway, but the face of global capitalism?
Just doublechecking my premises, there’s this from Investopedia:
The Group of Seven is an intergovernmental organization made up of the world’s largest developed economies: France, Germany, Italy, Japan, the United States, the United Kingdom, and Canada. Government leaders of these countries meet periodically to address international economic and monetary issues, with each member taking over the presidency on a rotating basis…
Yeah, fuck 'em, but all is forgiven if G7 has the balls to expel America.
G8 expelled Russia for the original Ukrainian invasion in 2014. If need be, I suppose they can become G6. Or honestly, in this day and age, there are many more nations whose opinions should be considered. G7 is pretty eurocentric and I say this as an European (though not a citizen of any of the 7)
The G6 should incorporate Ukraine, Taiwan, and Panama. Then extend a treaty of friendship to Blue States within America. America clearly has no (good) future, and the world will change because of it. Might as well make the most of it.
Replace the US with China
What? Hell no! The Orange KGB agent and Leon Hitler want the US to be like China.
It was a thought I had too, but tbh I feel iffy about China.
If China’s willing to stop supporting Russia, I could see the west sans US starting closer ties with China. That alliance would be an economic powerhouse for sure.
China would have to do a whole lot more than just “not support russia”. As a starter, they’d need to start being transparent, honest, and not censor the ever loving shit out of all information from their country. Then they could stop genociding minorities.
I figure the best way to convince China to stop supporting Russia is to give them a better option. Europe is a bigger economy and more in line with many of China’s goals. Russia is chaotic and weak by comparison.
That’s definitely true, and the thought has crossed my mind before.
Anything an European company manages to sell in China is going to be a huge boost too. It’s the damn IP laws that are a pain to work with, though. A Chinese company perfectly clones your product? Well, you’re not going to win if you sue them.
China is as a bad faith actor if not worse than the US. And that’s saying something. Moreover, they are threatening another democracy (Taiwan) while being a dictatorship. What would be the EU stance in case of aggression? Ukraine being invaded is bad, but Taiwan is fine? That would be hypocrisy at it’s worst
Even better, South Korea
That would piss them off so much lol
Replace fascism with… checks notes again… fascism…
What?
Fuck this fucking orange clown. Jesus goddamn fucking Christ.
