Summary
Trump and Zelenskyy’s confrontational Oval Office meeting advanced “mob boss foreign policy” serving Russian interests.
Trump and Vance bullied Zelenskyy when he refused their “extortionate” minerals deal or to thank them despite Trump’s stated intent to reduce support for Ukraine.
Zelenskyy effectively countered their claims by noting Russia’s 2014 invasion and correcting historical inaccuracies, which angered the Americans.
This represents the first openly “anti-US, anti-Western, anti-democracy foreign policy in American history.” Russians embraced it, and Putin ally and former Russian president Dmitry Medvedev celebrated the exchange.
Anyone know how fox news is spinning it to the Maga folk? I can’t bring myself to look at the cancer.
Zelenskyy gave Fox and interview which came off quite well.
Zelenski is an ungrateful bitch who got bitch slapped by Trump and will now give the US everything trump wants because trump best!
Something like that, probably
Just to clarify: I think zelenski is an example to the world and I think it’s very fair to call him the Churchill of our generation.
Churchill was an asshole garbage too
Care to explain or link an article?
He was kinda shit to India and probably some other things. But that’s just internet contrarian nitpicking stuff. When someone mentions Churchill everyone knows it means a leader that held strong against what seemed an impossible enemy to defeat.
Sounds like something a Hitler glazer would say.
And he was the best war time leader the UK could have hoped for. Same goes for zelenski, though I think he might even be a good peace time leader, he definitely is the best war time leader Ukraine could want.
The leaders you want in a war aren’t the ones you want in peaceful times and vice versa. But when there is war, it’s important to have one of the leaders who’re good at managing the country in such a situation, and that applies to both Churchill and Zelenskiy.
Yes, they both have many flaws. But that doesn’t mean someone else would be better.
The difference is zelensky has always been a puppet of the US
Idk, but I’ve seen “Zelensky is a welfare queen asking for a handout” narrative and Zelensky is short and Donald tall so he gooder takes from the right. They are absolutely fucked in the head.
I remember before they criticized him for not wearing a suit which is a talking point that conveniently made to that meeting. Appearance doesn’t matter to them so much as the coverage.
Zelensky hasn’t put on a suit since the war started. He also has been maintaining a short beard and keeping his hair slightly mussed. It’s a powerful image for the men and women fighting for Ukraine’s freedom, showing that their president is right there with them where a suit and tie would make him look more like Farquaad.
I liked his reply to that. That black shirt looks miles better than that ill fitting suit on that guy
He should come to the next meeting (if there is one) in a tan suit.
Eating a hamburger with Dijon mustard
Zelensky didn’t need to be made humble. Clearly he is and is only in power at this point for the sole reason to overcome the ruzzian invasion.
Trump embarrassed everyone who watched. It’s like watching a human do something disgusting and realizing it was disgusting without knowing anything else about humans.
And he does it on a daily basis.
at this point, the rest of the world should start phasing out and blocking anything American. can’t rely on the looney bin for critical infrastructure.
Føtex in Denmark is to start marking American products, so now it’s easier to know if you’re buying something American or something European.
I think Canada is also going to make a few trade deals with us.
You know there’s something wrong when Putin and his cronies are the only ones applauding you.
You know there’s something wrong when Putin and his cronies are the only ones applauding you.
did you know there are BYD chinese cars sold all over europe.
if they are US allies - how does that happen?What does this have to do with what I said
What a moronic thing for Trump to have said when nearly everything anyone in the United States buys/uses comes from China.
Not cars tho.
America humiliated itself by voting this orange twat back in
We tried not to, I promise you. Our voting system is …problematical, at best
Illusion of choice
So is social media, and the openness of free societies to internal (the rich owning the media) and external (foreign adversaries) tampering. Spreading misinformation, eroding trust in institutions and truth itself, poisons like that.
Many democracies are crumbling this way. We yet have to find an effective antidote.
Regardless of the voting system, there still is a worryingly large portion of voters who were corrupted to serve other’s interests. And that is true to all (?) countries. That not just any two democracies fall first, but GB and US, kind of shows us that it could be anyone.
So while it is easy to look down on the fallen, or feel ashamed to be that - we’re helpless in this together. Hate to end like that.
…and you would have to be just drop dead stupid if you thought our NATO and EU allies weren’t watching this coverage.
Colonizers betraying colonizers? I’m shocked. \s
Who cares what others think of the US, it’s all a facade. Regardless who’s in office the world sees us as a joke. Homelessness, incarceration rates, low education, poverty, no healthcare, stagnant wages, there’s a thousand things to look down on about the US other than a fanatical asshole.
Yea but freedumb! Ma guns!
Sure but we’re all used to that. But we’ve never seen a President deliberately sabotage US interests in this way.
TIL allowing homelessness, high incarceration rates, low education, poverty, lack of health care, and stagnant wages isn’t sabotaging US interests
You need to work on your reading comprehension
So people having homes isn’t in America’s interest? People not being fucking idiots and electing Trump isn’t in America’s interest?
The problem with the US is that American exceptionalism has made Americans unable to distinguish between global politics and domestic politics.
In short, other countries generally don’t concern themselves with US domestic politics, because the concept of sovereignty means countries don’t interfere in each other’s domestic problems.
I was mainly pointing out how the US government is willing to bend over backwards when “American interests” are threatened, but doesn’t consider housing, education, and poverty to be worth doing anything about. It’s mainly throwing our weight around and making sure rich people don’t lose money.
Which just shows what “American interests” really are.
Ah, the duality of the United States. An greedy evil imperialistic Nation that undermines everyone else, but also USAID is going away and people are wondering wtf they are going to do to get by.
USAID has never been anything but a tool of US imperialism and regime change masquerading as charity
I’m not pro trump but I am a libertarian, this shit was downright disgraceful. Shows how mature he is.
This banana republic was never respectable but with the senile genocide enabler first (who they desperately tried to us was still mentally capable) and now the orange clown they have certainly sunk to new lows.
Don’t worry americans, there IS no reputation to harm.Anyone equating Trump and Biden (in a thread that has literally nothing to do with the latter) is either full of shit or in desperate need of a civics lesson or three.
And your motives are transparent.
I have laughed and ridiculed the comedy capers of Genocide Joe just as much as I did the orange clown.
They both have different yet equally amusing traits. And is most certainly on point seen this thread is on humiliating shit from your banana republic.
They can most certainly be equated.
I really don’t care your feelies get hurt by it and have to lash out with potty mouth vulgarities.“And your motives are transparent.”
LOL let’s try an ad hominem in desperation since you have nothing to offer.
Bye now, enjoy your embarrassing shithole.
I know I will:
Accuses someone of being a “potty mouth” then proceeds to use the exact same “vulgarity”. Okay then, hypocrite
Elon Musk level wit here. Watch out everyone.
lot of people are “shocked” and “surprised” but like why, as the saying goes he literally said he would do that
They thought he’d pivot.
100% knew this shit would happen. Knew he was going to take this all as some massive win. His cronies probably all patted him on the back and gladly licked his nuts.
half the voting population thinks trump did humiliate zelensky
Has Trump done anything in the past month to not humiliate the US and drastically weaken our global strength and influence?
Some drone strikes on some Al Qaeda guys I guess? But nothing of significant note. The rest has been a complete humiliation of the US.
The same drone strikes he said were illegal, and instead of stopping, removed reporting of so he could say he didn’t do it but Obama did… ugghhhh
The U.S. citizens bought the ticket now it’s time to take the ride.
I’d like a refund please, I didn’t agree to this.
