I’m wondering if I should just delete lemmy to stay under the radar. 🤔 (I’m a US Citizen currently residing in the US, and moving out of the country is not really an option)

I feel so conflicted on this. On one hand, this is kinda like giving in to authoritarianism, but on the other hand, dissenting is kinda dangerous. 😓

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    Dissenting is the only thing that will actually do anything to make things better.

    Rolling over and stopping is giving up before the fight has even started.

    Further, pretty sure the entire contents of the internet have been sucked down into that NSA Utah Datacenter since it opened in May 2014.

    Not to mention the corporate surveillance systems of Meta, Reddit, Twitter, and so on. If you ever had an account, just because you deleted it doesn’t mean the data got deleted. Even Reddit has been seen restoring comments after they were changed and deleted. Facebook has been known to have “shadow profiles” on people for like fifteen years now.

    Also Room 641A implies that the phone companies will happily divulge the history of your text messages to the administration as well. There is and hasn’t been privacy in a long time in any real way in the USA and they’re definitely gonna leverage that.

    If Trump is ignoring the law, he’ll ignore any laws that prevent the government from using that data against American citizens. I think it’s healthier to accept it than to try to pretend all that data isn’t already out there for the taking.

    If you’ve ever been critical of Trump or Republicans in the last 11 years, just get used to the idea that it’s probably a foregone conclusion and get prepared to be involved.

    I don’t mean buy a gun. I mean get involved in community gardens, community support networks and other types of Mutual Aid. We’ll need to support one another and hiding from what is happening and hiding our opinions because we’re scared isn’t going to help.

    Do you have respect for the journalism outfits that have already turned tail and given up on seriously criticizing Trump? Do you have respect for every judge who pussed out on holding Trump accountable before the election? Because I doubt you do. Well, history will look at you the same way, if anyone even remembers your name.

    Nobody remembers Germans in 1941 as anything but Nazis. The only ones who are remembered for not being Nazis took risks and didn’t lay down and die. It’s different now, the surveillance network is massive, there’s no hiding from it, so it’s pointless to hide from it instead of embrace it and prepare.

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    it’s pretty stupid and delusional to think you’re going to jail for posting things on social media. in countries where this actually happens (mine for example) you need to be stirring up some viral controversy which directly effects an interest of the government. it wouldn’t be useful to put every rambling stepdad in jail and they wouldn’t have the resources to do it anyway

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      People are getting turned away at the border for having tweets critical to Donald trump (terrorism for some reason). It’s only a matter of time before they start making lists of people inside the states as well.

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    If they come for you, they come for me, and many many more. Don’t pay personal information, you shouldn’t do that anyways

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      Basic op sec goes a long way but when the threat actor is your own regime… Well there is really not much you can do about that tbh beyond making them work for it within bounds of the law.

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    This is why I use a vpn. But he’d have to prosecute half the people or scare half the people. I hope we’ll fight back if that ever happens

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    All? Unlikely. But some? A lot harder to say. You’re asking for an opinion-based prediction at this point. I think they’ll probably eventually try to get the most outspoken critics, but I also think that’s a good time to not go silent. You get organized.

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    I think it’s not feasible to search for anti -trump content and then track down the person, but is much more likely that once they have you they will check your phone to see if you are a dissenter. So any interaction with federal or local authorities will be risky from now on. I just saw a headline of a French scientist being denied entry after immigration searched her phone and found anti Trump messages. If anyone has advice on how to quickly wipe or lockdown a phone, PC, etc. please share. OpSec

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      GrqpheneOS has a second pin on your lock screen which, when keyed in, immediately makes the storage contents permanently inaccessible, deletes all Esims, and powers the device off. Graphene will remain installed.

      There are also “panic button” apps out there that do similar stuff.

      Then there’s the good ole, put it in the microwave, or taking a nail-gun to it

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    I have the RIGHT to freedom of speech and expression and I will not waive it for Trump or anyone else. Without it, there is no United States.

    Fuck Donald Trump. Fuck Elon Musk. Fuck the Republicans. Fuck the oligarchy. Fuck authoritarianism. Fuck this fear, and fuck advance compliance.

    I serve no fucking king.

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    yeah, I’ve been wondering how much I should be sharing about my political opinions now… and a little concerned about my 15+ years of social media history.

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      NSA Utah Datacenter has been online since May 2014 and has been sucking down the entire contents of the internet since then…

      …so yeah.

      Better to just embrace it and be ready for when they come for us, probably.

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        side note, if you are really fed up with this news cycle, you could take up a new hobby.

        drones are crazy fast these days, and cheap to make, and there are SO many ways to build them now. they come with so mant different attachments, especially in the states. you could attach all kinds of crazy things to them. like nerf guns, and paintball guns and do all kinds of fun activities with lots of friends

        also i hear the area around mar a lago is beautiful to vacation in, it would be great to get some birds eye view footage of that place. just for fun with a bunch of your friends

        i hear also about how good drones are at stabalizing for long distance shots on video these days. you could fly them so high up you could barely see them or hear them from the ground.

        some people even use them to drop small, or large packages from the air as well. just be careful they dont land on anyone important

        that would be aweful…eh?

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        You’re right. We should trust the police to protect us. After all, it’s not like our police departments are filled with right-wingers who have a track record of regularly murdering innocent civilians or anything…

        …Oh wait, that’s riiiiight…

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          (Of course, I realise arguing with an American about guns is a fool’s errand but sometime you’ve got to try.)

          OK so hypothetically let’s suppose a right-wing cop has decided to add you to his list of murdered innocent civilians, has parked his car on the boundary of your house and is walking towards you.

          At what point exactly do you get your gun out and shoot first? Spell it out please, I’d really like to understand how this plays out.

          Please include the response of his partner who is still in the car, what that partner radios back to base, and describe the multiple responses of those who will now respond to the reports of a cop-killer. Explain how you think the resulting siege will play out and describe exactly how you win this scenario (where “win” is defined in terms of you living and not going to jail).

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            Gee, that sounds like you’re asking me to plan out a crime that someone could prosecute someone for in this day and age. I’ll be sure to inform my local Democracy Officer or DOGE official about this conversation, as any upstanding freedom-loving citizen would.

            Besides, I’ve already agreed with you. American cops are definitely trustworthy, and always uphold their duty to protect and serve the American people. Surely they would never harm the citizens they are hired to defend!

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            As if the deterrent effect is from the possibility of suicide by cop instead of, idk, a critical mass within a community of armed people. It’s not like around 2019/20 we saw, firsthand, that when violence against cops increased their willingness to make frivolous stops decreased. But please, continue strawmanning this as some weird scenario where people are saying that suicide by cop will stop oppression.

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        Ok dude when they come to take you from your home and put you in the camps I’m sure you will be happy you are unarmed and defenseless.

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          I love seeing little clones parroting the same anti-gun BS they’ve been spooned for the last 3 decades like fascists aren’t seizing power right now.

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            No kidding. I mean, this is finally the moment that Madison predicted two centuries ago! A fascist has seized control over the government, and is illegally detaining people. Rise up my US gun-lovers! Rise against the dictators and claim control of your country from…

            Oh wait, you’re the ones who got him elected? Nevermind.

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      Only if people collectiely excercise that right by forming a militia, otherwise they’ll just raid your houses individually one by one and take your guns.

      Ironically, its less likely for people who aren’t right-wing to have guns. Blue states, and especially Blue cities make it so difficult for people to get a gun due to all the permits you have to obtain from the police department, who would just find bs reasons to deny your permit because you know, pigs be pigs.

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        Lots of states allow private sales with no background checks required. People should see if they live in/near one.

        If so hop on mewe, or some other social site, grab some cash and get you one! Gun shows are awesome for this too.

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          Still can’t carry guns outside your hosue without a permit in Philadelphia. So you won’t be able to defend yourself when you go about the city and some armed nazi mob start threatening you.

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        If you have a gun and they raid your hosue, they now have a legal right to kill you no matter what you do since you are now a threat with deadly force.

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          Sure and they can just as easily shoot you no matter what and say it was a phone, you were reaching for something etc

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            Correct but would having gun lower or increase your chances at getting killed tho

            That’s the question here

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              In a house? With cops raiding it? If you grabbed a gun to defend yourself odds are you would be killed. If it comes to that particular scenario, gun or not, your odds weren’t that great to begin with

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      Gun rights are for everyone. Unironically everyone capable of responsibly owning a gun should. But you won’t get magically good with one if you never train.

      If you have a friend who already has guns ask to join them on the range to learn the basics. If not find a class to learn safe gun handling, then go to the range to practice and build skill. Guns are a serious and powerful tool, but like most serious and powerful tools when you use them safely you have a ton of fun too!

      From there if you really want to be as effective as you can learning how to move and communicate well is the next step. And that can be practiced via video games, airsoft, hiking etc.

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    very unlikely.

    If they do it’ll end up being like less than 5% to make an example out of them.

    if that does happen start using and supporting services like i2p and monero.

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    The worst they can do is kill you. Your gonna die eventually anyway, might as well do it for a good cause.

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    AI is a big help here. Including at current tech level. But why bother the expense or judicially-complaining process of arresting them, if you can arrange their next Amazon electronics order to explode?

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    Every single person who disagrees with the administration on the internet? Incredibly unlikely. That’d be literally 10s of millions of people, if not over 100 million. The US prison system currently has a capacity of ~2 million. It’s estimated that globally there are ~11.5 million people in prisons. So you’re talking about locking up several times more people than are currently locked up. It’s just not possible.

    The scale of what you’re suggesting is just unimaginable. How much manpower would be needed to lock up tens of millions of people? Nearly the entire non-incarcerated population of the US would need to be employed in building and staffing prisons and doing the police work to track down and arrest people.

    And what would that do to the US (and global) economy to remove tens of millions of people from the workforce and force the rest of the population into servicing those prisons?

    Even in the strictest countries with the most draconian censorship, they don’t lock up people who are just disagreeing with the dictator/administration. They lock up people who make a name for themselves and get recognition/go viral. If you have an account that gets a HUGE following and you don’t just disagree, but attack and criticize, then you might end up with some problems.

    To avoid this, just don’t let yourself get a big following with an account that’s super critical. If you notice you start to get a following, just delete that account and start a new one.

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        Small camps, yes. Camps with enough facilities to hold several times more than the current global population? No, not at all.

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          Yeah that’s why you start killing people in the camps yo free space for the new arrivals…

          I swear we already went through this before

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            I really think you’re underestimating the scale of every single person who’s critical of Trump. The Holocaust killed like 6 million people/year. We’re talking about an order of magnitude more people than that.