From there, the interview took a turn. The mother said that after the death, her other four children developed the disease. It “must have been petrifying,” CHD’s director of programming, Polly Tommey, who was leading the interview, said. “Yeah, it was. It was hard,” the mother replied. But then, the family had the children treated by an alternative practitioner, Ben Edwards, who has grown popular in their West Texas community amid the ongoing measles outbreak. Edwards administers unproven treatments, including cod liver oil and the steroid budesonide, which is used to treat asthma and Crohn’s disease.

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Most children do recover from measles, regardless of whether they’re given cod liver oil. The fatality rate of measles is nearly 1 to 3 in 1,000 children, who die with respiratory (e.g., pneumonia) or neurological complications from the virus, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.