• Mambert@beehaw.org
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    You’re making the error of assuming conservatives have a status quo, or a party line, or any agenda other than being evil.

  • Sentient Loom@sh.itjust.works
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    Strictly speaking, DEI absolutely does NOT cover all “minority” hires. DEI is when we say, “We need more people of group X regardless of all other factors.” I really doubt they married their wives for the sake of diversity. So they’re nit DEI.

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        Honestly it’s easy to get that definition of DEI when it is poorly explained and/or poorly understood.

        Plenty of people particularly on the right believe all the explanatory reasoning behind DEI is thinly-veiled “reverse racism”.

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          I understand that many people have an incorrect understanding of DEI (and at times have had experience with it being incorrectly applied). I was actually hoping to learn where this particular person learned their viewpoint to have a conversation.

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      Now it depends whether you mean actual DEI or the nonsense that companies do in the name of DEI or the unfortunate overreaction that some people support related to DEI due to the resistance to actual, reasonable, sensible DEI.

      “… regardless of all other factors…” sounds like the second of these.

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      regardless of all other factors

      Yea that’s not what DEI is. Look up affinity bias and why we need things like DEI.

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      I wouldn’t say DEI generally means

      We need more people of group X regardless of all other factors

      That sounds more like quotas or affirmative action taken to the literal extreme, since those programs typically include other factors as well.

      DEI is more about respecting the value that diversity brings to a team and making sure you have an environment that allows for all sorts of people to be included and welcome.

      That said, totally agree that Melania Trump and Usha Vance aren’t “DEI wives.” It is certainly hypocritical that they embody immigration stories and Melania in particular may be illegal. But I don’t think anyone in the current regime is concerned one bit about consistency in ideology, it’s really just whatever they can get away with that leads to more power.

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    DEI during hiring is things like:

    • Making sure job postings are put up in spaces where minority populations have a similar chance to see them as majority populations. I.e. post at HBCU and Women’s colleges’ job boards, not just at the hiring manager’s alma mater.
    • Making sure the application portal is accessible to those with disabilities

    DEI during employment is things like:

    • continuing unconscious bias training
    • educating about the existence of diverse backgrounds and how that can benefit your team
    • encouraging communication among your team members about how they approach problems, overcome obstacles, and achieve results

    DEI is not (though the right commonly likes to use it this way):

    • A slur for non-white male presenting people
    • A diversity hire
    • A socially acceptable term in lieu of the n-word
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      DEI during employment is things like:

      continuing unconscious bias training
      educating about the existence of diverse backgrounds and how that can benefit your team
      encouraging communication among your team members about how they approach problems, overcome obstacles, and achieve results
      

      And this right here is why people don’t like it, and how the current administration is able to get away with the stuff they say.

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    Rules are there to punish bad morality.

    Trump and Vance are seen as morally good, so the rules don’t apply as they can do no bad. Things that the Others want, such as DEI, are naturally morally bad and every rule to punish them is fully enforced, and a few new rules are added as needed.

    Rule of law and consistency do not apply for them.

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    Their wives are not dei because that’s not what dei means.

    Don’t accept their language.

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      The theory behind DEI policies is to formally challenge personal bias (both explicit and subconscious) in hiring and participation. There’s nothing inherently tied to unfairly favoring minority groups other than the fact that they are usually the target of negative bias.

      It’s a pretty basic and logical idea that acknowledges human fallibility. I hate that it was rapidly co-opted on all sides as a shorthand for racism and opposition to cis-white-male dominance.

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    You see, their wives are the good ones.

    This kind of thinking happens all over MAGAland. People with undocumented spouses proudly voted for Trump because “he’s going to deport the illegals”, then they’re shocked when ICE shows up at their door. Their minds were so quick to interpret “illegals” as “others I don’t like” that they literally didn’t even realize their own spouses would be targeted.

    This is the power of misinformation combined with cultivated hate.

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    You assume they care about truth as an ideal to uphold.

    Their optimization model is set to maximize power and wealth for their people. Truth is a tool to use or discard as needed in reach of their goal. It makes perfect sense, just not within the logic and morals framework you or I would use.

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    Conservatism consists of one core value: there should be laws that protect, but do not bind, the in group while the same laws bind, but do not protect, the out group.

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    This is typical fascism. Was Hitler a member of the Aryan race? Blue eyed, blond hair? Nope. Dude wasn’t even German. Were any of his cadre? Nope.

    Kim Jong Un reportedly doesn’t need to use the bathroom because he is so perfect.

    Trump is cracking down on illegal immigrants. Married an illegal immigrant. He’s against chain migration. Melania chain migrated her family. Calls Biden sleepy Joe, then falls asleep during his trial. Says voting by mail is rampant with fraud. Votes by mail. None of this makes any sense!

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      To be clear, nobody actually thinks Kim Jong Un doesn’t need to use the restroom. You can say anything you want about the DPRK and people will believe you, which ends up being a clickbait race for tabloid media (which is where stories like the no peeing thing come from).

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          Most of what’s reported about the DPRK is bullshit. It’s closer to Cuba than it is to, say, the mythical religious state that worships the party and eats rats that is often reported as.