This is why Democrats lose.

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    That’s not even close to the comment made, but whatever. Newsom has his own take I suppose, but the people have a completely different one. The latter is more important.

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    Hey, only progressives get to criticize the Democratic party. You’re way out of line, Newsom.

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    Newsom, a Democrat, has attempted a fresh approach to political divisiveness

    Seriously? Lurching to the right and courting republican voters is new, is it? Seems to me it’s the same shit democrats have been doing for quite some time. Newsom should just get it over with and change parties.

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      He doesn’t need to switch parties though, the leadership is on board with throwing trans women under the bus and approving GOP spending bills.

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        Yet they can’t figure out why the Democrats are considered “toxic” right now, and their ratings are in the shitter.

        California isn’t loving his schtick. I hope we vote him out in 2026 for governor. We’ll see how that works for his presidential asperations. What a moron

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            He’s setting up a go at the presidency. He knows that the DNC will want him to lean conservative, but he doesn’t want to be painted as flip flopping or pandering, so he’s leaning into it early. Now when the GOP inevitably calls him a woke far left extremist (or whatever buzz words they’re using by that time) he can point back to this period as proof that he’s “always been a centrist” who can appeal to non-MAGA conservatives.

            Of course, he and the rest of the DNC haven’t figured out yet that conservative voters are NEVER going to vote for the LESS conservative party.

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          Source: Gavin Newsome on Joe Rogan. (I don’t know about the spending bills but the trans stuff. it was like 2 or 3 weeks ago I think. Time works differently in a Trump admin.)

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            Don’t forget that asshole filed an amicus brief supporting the Supreme Court decision that you can arrest homeless people even if they’re only camping outside because there’s no shelter space

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              He’s been consistent about putting the boot into the homeless since he was mayor of SF.

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    Is RFK Jr. sharing his alien mind control brain worms with all these other political candidates, or have they always been this garbage?

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    He’s a zionist anyway. We’re all full up of genocide apologists. He should leave.

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      This would make a great republican campaign slogan. Maybe newsom has a good shot replacing trump

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    gavin newsom is the embodiment of dem rot

    that said, democrats have become incredibly toxic. the purity tests continue to eat them alive. stop participating in garbage.

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        It’s more like:

        If you don’t 100% support Palestine and don’t want to immediately cut off ALL aid to Israel without any forethought or nuance as to what that would actually mean, then you are literally just as bad as the people committing genocide.

        Or shit like:

        If you positively engage with the Harry Potter franchise at any point, you are literally just as bad as those who lynch trans people.

        Or things like:

        Literally all landlords are parasites, with no exceptions . If you rent a building, you should be dragged out to the street and shot for selfishly hoarding property.

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          Ok but only the craziest fringe believes any of that.

          Like you’re taking the most extreme “leftist” views and labeling them the same as all liberals views. To be quite honest, if the entire dem party ACTUALLY believed the things you listed, we would be making great progress.

          But it’s just nonsense to drive everything even more right because obviously you don’t agree with those CRAZY Dems right? They want to NUKE ISRAEL!!

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            It’s not just him, the whole rightwing media system exists to turn the most extreme leftist political views and state that these are main stream. It’s been 10 years and we have no counter to it.

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            those ideas totally trickle down to your average lib and you know it

            ask a sample size about harry potter and see how many disgusted looks you get (keep in mind jkr hasn’t been involved in any narrative sense in forever, but somehow that doesn’t matter) - freak shit

            ask them about israel/palestine - it’s either terrorist or nazi - a large section of the american public has opinions given to them from their digested media of choice - again freak shit. someone who condemns hamas or other insurgent groups is not a nazi. let people finish a fucking thought before parroting what you heard from your favorite youtuber.

            ask them about republicans - their literal neighbors - wait and see the words they are using (nazi, racist, terrorist)

            people speak so generally about shit they don’t have the faculty to truly comprehend. they do not deserve validation just because the majority can’t recognize that.

            we won’t win again until people look in the fucking mirror

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        if that were it, and 2 out of three of those weren’t incredibly subjective then yeah, i’d agree

        the reality is much different. you can call anyone anything you want. keep expecting perfection and you will get nothing done. that doesn’t mean we need to turn a blind eye to everyone but it does mean that we should maybe chill the fuck out for three seconds and realize human beings have flaws. the ones throwing the most stones are often giving themselves away anyway so keep slangin

        that whole “thing” is not only flawed but is a huge reason why we are down so bad. perpetuating that thinking, you can miss me with that shit.

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          What’s subjective about supporting an authoritarian dictatorship, sexual assault, or believing someone is of lesser value because of their demographic?

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            if thats what you think i’m doing, you might be beyond saving

            see the comment by the other user stating “how this actually works” they are completely spot on

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    I used to think he was a viable presidential candidate, and he might still be, for non-MAGA Republicans. He’s no longer a viable Democratic candidate, though.

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        Harris is incredibly unpopular. She was the most or second most unpopular primary candidate in 2020. There are better picks.

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            She’s always been a genocidal prosecutor. Never looked “fine”.

            When this is what the “opposition” looks like, it’s no surprise at all that we have fascism.

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              I agree completely, but when she first came onto the scene I had a bit of hope.

              Plus I have to censor myself so liberals don’t think I’m somehow a Russian bot despite being an anarchist.

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              Well, she did look fine to most progressives when she directly supported medicare for all, to be fair. Israel was only committing an apartheid at the time, though. Also, she backtracked because she let other people control her campaign. Familiar…

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    He’s completely misreading WHY Democratic numbers are dropping - it’s not because they’re not working closely enough with Republicans; it’s because they’re not treating them as they have us and blocking every single thing they do!

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    It feels like democrats are trying to join republicans more and more cause they keep “winning.” The reality is that Republicans aren’t simply winning, but they are getting away with abandoning their constituents. Democrats who are in it for nothing but power are seeing this and starting to simply join the side in power. Newsom is no different and I won’t be surprised when he finally swaps colors.

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      Yea i’ve been trying to figure out whats going on with Newsom, but im convinced at this point he’s just a power hungery politican running to the winning team. Values as deep as his career will allow.

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    This dumb ass thinks he has a change to become president after doing nothing substantial to address the devastating LA fires. Does he think he’s going to be popular outside California?

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      He’s throwing vulnerable minorities under the bus and badmouthing people to his left.

      He’s putting in his application for preordained nominee.