• Godric@lemmy.world
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    20 hours ago

    For context, Cuba, North Korea, and Belarus are also not tariffed because they are sanctioned instead.

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      14 hours ago

      I wondered the same thing. Why would you add tariffs if it’s illegal to even trade with them?

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        12 hours ago

        One wouldn’t, which makes all the Krasnov comments in this situation entertaining.

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    12 hours ago

    Guys I think there’s some evidence that this is, shall we say, Russia friendly (such as the astronomical tariff rate on Moldova of all places), but Russia isn’t included because it’s a “Column 2” country alongside Belarus, Cuba, and North Korea, and therefore all subject to the stiff tariffs we already impose on the worst of the worst. Please let’s not share things like this which just make us look gullable to the morons on the right supporting this buffoon. It’s not a good look.

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    18 hours ago

    Russia remains a key supplier of resources critical to U.S. industry (titanium, palladium, uranium). While technically replaceable, developing alternative sources would take years. This makes the current moment less than ideal for imposing higher tariffs on Russia, particularly when the priority is to reindustrialize the U.S.

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      18 hours ago

      now explain why Russia is uniquely in this position or i user note you as a russian agent

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        15 hours ago

        Well, as much as I’d love a dramatic spy backstory, I’m afraid I’m neither an FSB nor an FBI agent. Just a regular person thinking out loud. I don’t have a definitive answer, just some suppositions. I share them so we can all explore the topic with arguments and counterarguments; no secret dossiers required! Open to hearing different perspectives.

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      11 hours ago

      I find it funny than instead of at least imposing 10% tariff by default on Russia and selectively exempt critical resources. Russian wasn’t listed at all.

      Even an unoccupied island got 10% tariff by default.

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    20 hours ago

    You can view this one of two ways, possibly both:

    1. Krasnov
    2. Trump apparently was doing these tariffs based on trade deficits (Which is stupid on its own, if your dentist doesn’t buy the widgets you sell, that’s not a tariff.), if Russia wasn’t running one, then there you go.

    To rebuke 2 I present the following- https://ustr.gov/countries-regions/europe-middle-east/russia-and-eurasia/russia

    U.S. total goods trade with Russia were an estimated $3.5 billion in 2024. U.S. goods exports to Russia in 2024 were $526.1 million, down 12.3 percent ($73.5 million) from 2023. U.S. goods imports from Russia totaled $3.0 billion in 2024, down 34.2 percent ($1.6 billion) from 2023. The U.S. goods trade deficit with Russia was $2.5 billion in 2024, a 37.5 percent decrease ($1.5 billion) over 2023.

    Based on that math, with the CNN article I linked for the formula (the country’s trade deficit divided by its exports to the United States times 1/2) we get - (2,500,000,000 / 3,000,000,000) * 1/2 = 0.416666…

    So Russia should have a 42% tariff based on their purported 83% tariff on us.

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        11 hours ago

        no US Russia trade

        U.S. total goods trade with Russia were an estimated $3.5 billion in 2024. U.S. goods exports to Russia in 2024 were $526.1 million, down 12.3 percent ($73.5 million) from 2023. U.S. goods imports from Russia totaled $3.0 billion in 2024, down 34.2 percent ($1.6 billion) from 2023. The U.S. goods trade deficit with Russia was $2.5 billion in 2024, a 37.5 percent decrease ($1.5 billion) over 2023.

        https://ustr.gov/countries-regions/europe-middle-east/russia-and-eurasia/russia

        But what’s a few billion between friends?

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    Uh? Of course he isn’t. Why would Putin tell him to put tariffs on himself? That makes no sense.

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      22 hours ago

      The US has been sanctioning Russia for the better part of the last decade. We aren’t tariffing them because we aren’t trading with them.

      We also aren’t tariffing Venezuela, Cuba, or North Korea, for the same reasons.

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        17 hours ago

        But tarrif on seals in the Antarctica region? Doesn’t seem like logic is driving any of this.

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        it’s funny that this is being downvoted. lemmy is basically reddit. rooting for the good guys, but also dogshit stupid

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          Systems that have voting mechanisms result in hive minds. It’s an inevitable result.

          1st someone is much more likely to vote something up or down depending on how positive / negative it is. So it snowballs sort of like compounding interest

          2nd the simplest most common denominator takes bubble to the top. Precisely because more people can understand and therefore vote.

          It’s why you’ll always see some screenshot of Twitter much higher than a long in depth article. Even though the article has infinitely more value.

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          Downvoted because it’s wrong : We aren’t tariffing them because we aren’t trading with them.

          So are some inhabited islands which are hit by tariffs. Maybe the dogshit stupid is the one not seeing the ties between trump and putin.

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        21 hours ago

        Maybe, but apparently we’re tariffing multiple uninhabited islands. It would seem that active trade is not a perquisite for tariffs these days. can’t be having people move out there and not getting tariffed in the future.

        I hope he puts tariffs on Mars next. Maybe after he falls out with musk.

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        22 hours ago

        Surely American trades some products? Where does Russian vodka come from?

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          I was under the impression that we (in Canada) get our vodka mostly from Finland, but it’s been a while since I worked as an alcohol purveyor… I’m ashamed of the things I did during those years, but I’m in recovery now, thank you for your concern

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          21 hours ago

          https://www.statista.com/statistics/1306859/us-imports-by-commodity-from-russia/

          It does look like we import about $3B/year. Mostly fertilizers, which make up 1/3 of total imports, and some raw metals and a bit of heavy machinery. But that’s minuscule beside our trade balances with the top of his tariff list - China, the EU, Vietnam, Taiwan, Japan, and India. We do $20B/year with tiny little South Korea, as a point of comparison. We bring in $6B/year from South Africa.

          To my knowledge, we don’t import Russian vodka in any significant quantity. Anything “Russian” branded is typically imported from one of the neighboring states - Ukraine, Belarus, Poland, Romania. Red Army Vodka, for instance, is from a Polish company.

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            He slapped a 50% tarrif on Lesotho, so it’s clearly not about size or impact.

            And the UK got a 10% tariff applied even though the US doesn’t have a goods trade deficit with them.