“If” doing some heavy lifting there
As a dem voter I’m use to betting on precariously placed ‘ifs.’
A Democrat would never do it. You’d need an actual Leftist. They’d be the only ones with enough spine to sacrifice their own political career and reputation to get it done.
Yeah, but a bj in the oval office? I mean, have you met Hilary???
True. Democrats only want to govern like actual adults.
I can’t blame you if you prefer the orderliness of corporatism over the chaos of fascism, but the former always ultimately leads to the latter. At some point, you have to get rid of one to prevent the other.
Letting tens of thousands of people die without access to healthcare is acting like an adult???
Liberals are the epitome of the trolley fallacy: passive choices are still choices, letting someone drown in a nasty swamp because you want to stay clean is social murder. Liberals might appear to have clean hands, but their souls are soiled by the deaths of all the people they chose not to help
They’re so obsessed with acting like the adults in the room that they give up everything that actually matters
Liberals will watch you drown in a swamp and then they will brag about how they kept their hands clean.
And as you’re drowning they’ll patronizingly lecture you about “not understanding how things work”, then tell you to trust the process and launch into a speech about the next election
And finally snap at you for annoying them with your incessant requests to “do something”
It’s rather optimistic assuming that Republicans would act like they gave a shit about rule of law if they were the ones who wrote them. Laws are just for everyone else, in their minds.
Like it or not Republicans do work in the confines of the law. Now, sometimes they make work around or challenge some stuff but that’s the exception more than the rule. Complete lawlessness is only something recently the GOP has started dabbling in.
I wish, but that’s the opposite of the goal of the democratic party. They don’t see themselves as the opposition to the Republican party. Only priorities are maintaining the status quo and getting funding. That does tend to be better for us than the alternative, but any downstream benefits are mostly a happy accident.
Smells like fucking Tankie in here.
Let’s see, so if democrats can’t get their way, they should just burn everything down so that they, and everyone, will be on the same equally shitty footing? That tracks.
They could have at least fulfilled original student loan promises at a minimum.
No, they should force the GOP to act by doing the one thing that will make them: trying to enact their own policies.
If we manage to have another presidential election, I will be behind any progressive or Democrat that promises to use the presidency in the exact way as Trump.
We’re due for some public executions
Forcing an rewritten version of the Constitution that eliminates flaws and loopholes, enacting term and age limits on all elected offices and the judiciary, deleting the electoral college, and so forth?
I am in.
The US needs a proportional voting system first and foremost
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As opposed to what’s currently happening?
Ruin what now?
Democrats are centrist liberals. They are capitalists. They are cop-loving authoritarians. They will never fulfill your leftist liberatory desires. Stop deferring your political will to wishes they will never manifest. You have Stockholm Syndrome. Go do something yourself that matters to you in your own community.
Well said, I’m still going to post my opinions but there’s really nothing you’ve said that I can refute.
I should probably add: I don’t mean to be a dick. I say all this stuff because I care, I hate seeing comrades efforts and dreams and desires frustrated by this deadend political party year after year, election after election. I imagine if all the passion we drained into the DNC instead went into creative modes of organization and direct action in our own towns and cities?
All I can see doing right now is try to raise consciousness about what the midterms will mean. I don’t think they are going to do a behind closed doors steal. This administration couldn’t plan anything requiring that level of coordination. No, I think they will do it all right infront of our eyes. Closing polling places. Rampant voter intimidation. State governments interfering. All leading up to forcing scotuses hand.
People aren’t going to know how to react and ultimately they will walk away feeling defeated. Really we need to accept now that the midterms are going to be sabotaged and take to the street before hand. That’s not going to happen because as much as I plead no one will listen until it’s too late.
Even now we see trumps agenda stalling out. What i believe is happening is they are promising him everything for after midterms. That’s why you don’t see him going scorched earth. If you don’t think his cabinet is planning their reichstag fire as we speak then you haven’t been paying attention for the last 9 years.
Dems would have to oppose fascism first. Good luck with that.
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Is this how liberals fantasize about revolutionary action while still staying as milk toast as possible?
Edit: I appreciate Lemmy for the simple fact that I can use “liberal” in any sub and not be considered a conservative by default when I’m criticizing that perspective.
Using it the way you do does make you a conservative, though. In the first past the post system if you’re not opposing the conservatives then you’re promoting them.
It’s weird how people think all of politics boils down to which billionaire backed politician you vote for.
It’s weird how literally everyone here was old enough to remember when the dems removed money from politics for over 7 years and the conservative members of the SCOTUS undid it with the Citizens United decisions, and yet chooses not to remember that.
What are you even trying to reach for with this comment?
Man, if I’m milquetoast I don’t know how anyone on this site could get away with being more controversial than I already am.
Well you’re fantasising about elections and not lining up republican politicians against the wall or gunning them down as they head to their car after work.
Yeah, you’re right, your fantasy that you’re never going to do in real life is so much better than that other fantasy that isn’t happening.
I’m not the one in America.
Let them enjoy voting Trump out of office next “election” if they don’t want to stand up.
And how many alt right neo nazis have you slain in the street in your own country? I’ve a feeling I would have heard of you if you had.
Why would I kill them when there’s no threat of them taking over?
I’ve attended rallies in the past and bashed the fash.
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Presidential immunity gives a democratic incumbent the right to slap a republican senator daily
They would need to grow spines first.
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