Hogg, a 25-year-old gun control activist, who was elected the DNC’s vice chair, has sparked an intra-party uproar over his announcement that his political group, Leaders We Deserve, would be spending $20 million to challenge “asleep-at-the-wheel” Democrats in deep-blue districts.

“We, as the DNC, need to be seen as a body that can be trusted, that’s not putting its thumb on the scales,” a DNC member told Politico. “We have to be so strategic and careful with our resources right now. … So why are we in this circular firing squad against Democrats?”

  • inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    12
    ·
    edit-2
    6 days ago

    So why are we in this circular firing squad against Democrats?

    Because Hogg is right that you’re ineffective, lazy, speed bumps to actually making progress and winning elections at every level.

    Oh and let’s not forget that these fuckers were no where to be heard from when people like Cori Bush and Jamaal Bowman were primaried and heavily funded by Democrat organizations associate with leadership.

  • boughtmysoul@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    8
    ·
    6 days ago

    How can somebody be as incompetent and useless as long as James Carville and still have any kind of credibility?

    • barneypiccolo@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      6 days ago

      When did he have credibility? He’s been married to a hard-core conservative for decades, clearly he’s never been offended by their politics. He was just a waterboy for the Clintons, who were nothing more than Republican-Lite.

      Time for all those DINOs to hang it up. Weak rhetoric and action from weak-ass weenies like him and Schumer and Biden are the reason that Conservatism has steadily gained traction for decades, as Democrats fell farther and farther behind, until they literally allowed Nazis to overthrow our government. He can STFU, and GTFO.

      And Hogg is Vice-chair of the DNC?! This is the first I’ve heard of that! Congratulations to him. He was the biggest fighter after the Parkland massacre, and I’m so glad that he’s not only still in the fight, but has moved into a position of power. Young people like him and Max Frost give me slight hope for the future.

  • selson@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    9
    ·
    6 days ago

    I never really liked Carville. Didn’t have a reason until now. I feel a little vindicated tbh.

    Fuck all these doormat ass Dems that have been sipping on my dime. Fuck em

  • Delta_V@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    17
    ·
    edit-2
    6 days ago

    “We, as the DNC, need to be seen as a body that can be trusted, that’s not putting its thumb on the scales,” a DNC member told Politico. “We have to be so strategic and careful with our resources right now. … So why are we in this circular firing squad against Democrats?”

    Which side of the debate is this person trying to support?

    If the DNC wants to be seen as trustworthy and not putting its thumb on the scales against its constituents economic interests, then it makes sense to try to repair the broken parts of the party that are largely seen as untrustworthy and favoring the donor class over the people who vote for Democrats.

    So why are the corporate Dems shooting their own party in the foot by resisting changes to the failed status-quo?

    • Gates9@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      4
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      6 days ago

      Yeah right, they’ve never “put their thumbs on the scales”, lol. These people are as deluded as the Trump admin if they don’t think we’ve all seen what they’ve been doing. Do they think normal Americans, even Democrats give a shit about the DNC? Or that they have anything but contempt if they are aware of it?

  • Jaysyn@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    14
    ·
    6 days ago

    So why are we in this circular firing squad against Democrats?”

    That’s easy, some Democrats have enabled Trump & his fascists. They need to lose their seats to better Democrats.

  • Wilco@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    4
    ·
    6 days ago

    I have never heard of this Carville guy, but fuck him. He needs to be thrown out of the democratic party. Let him go play these MAGA style games with the racists.

    • barneypiccolo@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      6 days ago

      He was the Waterboy for the Republican Lite Clinton administration. He’s been coasting on that one resume entry for 30 years.

    • bitjunkie@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      6 days ago

      One of Bill Clinton’s campaign people who largely architected the current unelectable corpodem shitshow

  • ctkatz@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    2
    arrow-down
    17
    ·
    6 days ago

    what hogg is doing is wrong and destructive enough to irreparably splinter the party. it’s bad enough that he might be voluntold to resign.

    but what carville is talking about doing is stupid moronic and only puts his name in the news again. he’s not only got no standing, he’d be laughed out of court.

    in a vacuum what hogg is doing is fine. but the vice president of the party is never the appropriate person to do that. the party is responsible for getting more democrats. if the democrats in office are not doing the job or made for the current moment it’s up to the local grassroots orgs and activists to recruit, fundraise, organize, and turn out primary voters for better democrats. the party has no business getting involved in any democratic primary unless there is an obvious planted republican stalking horse involved.

    and if the local folks back in the district cannot or will not find a quality qualified candidate to run, that’s in them not the national party.

  • Chronic_Intermission@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    29
    ·
    6 days ago

    What’s wrong with facing a primary challenger? Every politician should have to truly face their base every election. It is the height of entitlement to view primary challenges as something worth bringing a civil suit over.

    If Carville thinks the current crop of old guard democratic politicians are doing the right thing, what’s to fear from a primary?

  • meyotch@slrpnk.net
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    23
    ·
    6 days ago

    Yeah something about surviving a school shooting galvanizes people to have strong opinions. Who knew? What’s your moral touchstone, Jimmy? Still looking? We’ll wait…

  • Zaktor@sopuli.xyz
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    42
    ·
    6 days ago

    Holy crap is that transcript insane. The moment centrists are on the downswing Carville wants to split the vote. Also some nonsense about all employees having “a fiduciary duty to your employer”.

    And all this with disgraced anchor Chris Cuomo egging him on then at the last moment remembering he was supposed to pretend he was neutral.