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Summary
RFK Jr. is using private medical records to create a registry of people with autism in the United States.
The National Institutes of Health is helping to collect private medical records from government and commercial databases, including “prescription records from pharmacies, lab testing, and genomics records from the Department of Veterans Affairs and Indian Health Service, private insurance claims, and data from smartwatches and fitness trackers.”
Kennedy, a longtime critic of vaccination, has made the study of autism one of HHS’s primary goals. He has called autism “preventable” and claimed “he can find a cure for the condition by September.”
Yep, if anyone had any doubt that MAGA = NAZI… well , MAGA = FUCKING NAZIS
HIPAA? What’s that?
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In 1936, three years after taking power, the Nazis ordered families with a mentally or physically handicapped person to send them to nearby hospitals for the best treatment. Soon after, they started receiving letters that their loved one had passed away.
The first to notice the pattern was the clergy, who realized that the families in their congregations who had vulnerable members were ALL getting these letters, and they rightfully concluded that a euthanasia program was going on.
Many spoke out from the pulpit, demanding an end to this atrocity, and Hitler responded, saying he was shocked at this revelation, and promising to end it. He didn’t, of course, he just buried it, expanded it, and evolved it into the Holocaust.
To Nazis, the best way to reduce the statistics of autistic people, is to reduce the numbers of autistic people, and the first step in doing that is to compile their names.
Of course, the real issue is HOW are they going to reduce the autistic population? Considering how much MAGA openly admires the Nazis, it’s not hard to make an educated guess.
They don’t even have to kill anyone on purpose. They just have to force people to undergo experimental autism cures, which have historically killed patients. An example of this would be chelation therapy, aka using the medication used to remove heavy metals from the body under the (unconfirmed) assumption that autism is caused by heavy metals.
If a database is good enough to connect pharmacy records, medical records, and even health info from smart watches (which a doctor or insurance company would not have access to) then it would need to link patient info together in a way that’s not as anonymous as they claim it to be. Theoretically, this could be enough information to force someone into doing these experimental treatments in order to keep their driver’s license (even if they’re otherwise high functioning enough to not be hospitalized) or force someone to be hospitalized with promises of being taught to be more independent later down the line.
They don’t even have to experiment on people, they just have to forcefully sterilize them.
They don’t even have to kill anyone on purpose.
They intend to starve the disabled financially as community outcasts.
What are you saying? That the poor are outcasts looked down upon by the vast majority of people regardless of their political beliefs?
For some cases, being marginalized is far worse than dying.
The only result they will find is that autism diagnosis happens more often in areas where it’s socially acceptable o go see a doctor for concerns about mental health. Deep red states will have “less” autism because hardly anyone will be going to the doctor and expressing concerns that they may have autism, and then they just go undiagnosed.
This. This is way more worrisome than first glance.
This is just them preparing the launchpad for further mass surveillance programs. First, they’ll poke around with innocent sounding programs, testing the waters to see how much data they can sniff out of different private databases without anyone noticing. They’ll claim it’s for the good of autistic people. They’ll enact legislation to further cement their practices of data gathering. If their proof of concept turns out to be delivering results, they’ll keep going.
Slowly they’ll keep tracking all kinds of people they deem as “ill”. They’ll start with vilified minorities that can’t fight back. Most likely trans people. Then the rest of the queer community. Of course, they’ll claim there’s no ill intent in gathering this data, after all, it’s not like they’re going to commit any vile acts.
And slowly but surely, once the public debate around these minorities turns even more sour, you’ll have them enacting all kinds of laws, and these databases will prove to be quite handy tools in aiding their goals.
Didn’t the Nazi’s do this too?
The school Hans Asperger sent autistic children to:
Am Spiegelgrund was divided into a reform school and a children’s ward, where sick and disabled adolescents were unwitting subjects of medical experiments and victims of nutritional and psychological abuse. Some died by lethal injection and gas poisoning; others by disease, starvation, exposure to the elements, and “accidents” relating to their conditions. The brains of up to 800 victims were preserved in jars and housed in the hospital for decades.
Yes. The first group of people exterminated by the Nazis were the disabled.
Wonder if they’re gonna rebrand Aspbergers again as ‘the people useful to society’ again.
Yes. The nazis tried to cure autism… (/s if it’s not obvious).
Seriously, why are you comparing this to Nazis.
Why would you not? Unless you were sure there were checks and balances in places to ensure it doesn’t happen. Say, something like, not tracking disabled people, and/or, not abandoning judicial process and habeas corpus, and/or respect for legal precedence and norms that affirm trust in the process
It does, to me, seem like a violation of privacy (looks like patients have no consent in whether their private data is collected).
But, personally, I would think there would have been better, non-public ways of doing this if he really wanted to exterminate austistic people, etc.
It being public, makes me think he wants PR, etc and wants to be the dude to cure autism.
The PR is to desensitize us from them doing outrageous things.
We REALLY need to stop letting football coaches teach history in public education.
Lool thanks for the diss, I will try to keep my head held up high. Unless it was meant for the original comment, then I can forget about this ;(
You should probably forget about a lot of things.
Because the Nazis literally did this.
Check this out:
I cannot read the entire transcript, but from what I did read, it seems to be talking about how Nazis slaughtered children with autism.
Maybe you can draw the conclusion that he (rfk) is collecting data on autistic people so that he can slaughter them too, but that seems very far fetched doesn’t it?
If I’m missing something important from what I didn’t read, please let me know.
This administration is already sending innocent people to a concentration camp indefinitely and without a trial.
That seemed farfetched not too long ago.
I don’t know much about this, but just wanted to thank you for continuing the discussion even though I can’t myself because of a lack of knowlege here.
Others prefer insults 🥹
No, it does not seem far fetched. Look at the shit this administration is doing and wake the fuck up.
oh no
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OK, how are they getting consent for this from the subjects? I do basic research with tissue from patients and if they change their mind and revoke consent, we are legally obligated to destroy any remaining tissue or data.
Based on recent history, Trump will declare some sort of national health emergency that will allow him to ignore laws and court orders that get in his way.
Consent is required only if you believe in the law.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is using private medical records to create a registry of people with autism in the United States.
That’s a pretty big claim for which The New Republic cited absolutely no source. This is bullshit, I hate the Administration as much as anyone here but I’m not falling for this.
Here’s a different source for you.
The National Institutes of Health will begin collecting Americans’ private health records as part of Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s controversial plan to discover a cause and a cure for autism. NIH Director Jay Bhattacharya told a panel of experts about the plan this week.
The NIH plans to gather information from a wide range of private sources, including pharmacy chains, hospitals and wearable devices with health sensors, like smartwatches.
“The idea of the platform is that the existing data resources are often fragmented and difficult to obtain. The NIH itself will often pay multiple times for the same data resource,” Bhattacharya told the panel, according to The Guardian. “Even data resources that are within the federal government are difficult to obtain.”
The NIH did not return a request for comment.
Kennedy has made autism research a central pillar of his role as America’s official health advocate. He has made a number of conspiratorial, anti-science claims, including that childhood vaccinations could cause autism, despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary.
Earlier this month, he called autism an “epidemic” and vowed to find an “environmental toxin” responsible for the disorder by September.
“Overall autism is increasing in prevalence at an alarming rate,” Kennedy told reporters at the time. “We’re going to get back to it with an answer to the American people very, very quickly.”
He further described autism as “a preventable disease.”
[…]
Bhattacharya, the NIH director, also has a controversial background in the medical community, questioning early on the lethality of COVID-19 and being a vocal opponent to lockdown mandates.
Thank you, I appreciate that.
Who’s laughing at self-diagnosis now??
Anyway, fuck this place (USA)
What’s crazy is that it’s perfect. Getting rid of autistic people is exactly the intellectual purging that fascists want when they get into power.
I know not every autistic person is “an intellectual” but many transgressive artists and radical leftist college professors are autistic.
Absolutely nothing good will come from this.
The only small silver lining in recent times has been the mass amount of outcry for everything that’s happening. It feels like the country is finally waking up. It just sucks that we had to get to full blown fascism to get there.
Holy shit, do they want to speedrun fascism?
Yes.
Yes. They laid it out with Project 2025 and a staggering amount of people voted for it.
Pretty sure the staggering amount of people who voted for Trump have never heard of P2025 before the election, as FoxNews pretty much never spoke about it.
Until after the election; https://www.foxnews.com/politics/heritage-president-project-2025-liberals-doge-takes-ax-bureaucracy
Yes. There are a lot of ignorant people but I feel they choose to be ignorant.
Ahh of course. Cause feelings about other people is far simpler than attempting understanding.
Don’t let reality get in your way of your desired scapegoats. A strategy much loved in the current year.
And plenty still heard about it and instead of doing an ounce of actual research, they wrote it off as propaganda. Because it was just “too crazy to be true.”
I don’t buy that. I live on the other side of the planet and I know what project 2025 is and its key action points. It’s not just foreign media that were reporting on it. I also watch some US late night shows, especially when a major event like an election is about to happen. Most late night shows also discussed project 2025 at length.
You’re already living under fascism at this point. You just haven’t woken up yet, because they didn’t get to your door. Yet. The sooner you wake up the better.
I don’t live in the US.
They already have
Why do you think they are so concerned about government efficiency?
How do you discern autism from a smart watch, labs, pharmacy etc?
The trick here is they don’t actually care if it’s autistics or not. They just want want to create another “other” for society to Target. So you’ll get them blasting this on news all over the United States of America " see this perfectly normal looking heartbeat, this is the autism heartbeat. We needed to put whoever this terrible person is in whatever terrible position we’re going to put them in".
It’s just like sending people to El Salvador with mom tattoos. They don’t care if they’re in a gang or not.
It’s going to be vaccines. That’s what RFK is looking for.
Im double on the list for being autistic and trans! I’m gonna go to CAMP!
It’ll be suddenly revealed it’s a general health tracking database, and you’ll be denied healthcare coverage if you’re “not doing your part”, will be used to monitor women’s menstrual cycle to figure out who’s having “illegal abortions”, you’ll be fired for not waking up at 4:30AM to stroke the ego of the CEO, etc., all thanks to Palantir…
To me, this suggests that if you’re diagnosed with autism, they’ll scrutinize your lab, pharmacy & smart watch records.
me being trans and autistic… haha i’m in danger