Microsoft subtracts C/C++ extension from VS Code forks
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: Cursor, Codium makers lose access as add-on goes exclusive
  • thingsiplay@beehaw.org
    29·
    20 days ago

    Good example why you don’t want to use and rely on proprietary software (the extension is not 100% open source as I understand), if there are free (as in source code and license) alternatives.

    • spacecadet@lemm.ee
      241·
      19 days ago

      A professor once told me “don’t trust ‘free software’ from a megacorp”, most important thing I learned in college.

      • vivendi@programming.devEnglish
        3·
        19 days ago

        Technically this shit isn’t even free (libre); atleast with corpo projects we can always fork them

  • commander@lemmy.world
    4·
    20 days ago

    I started using Lapce. That or Zed just I installed Lapce first. I still use VS Code at work but personal machines I’ve moved on

    • hobbsc@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
      1·
      19 days ago

      i’m using zed currently but waiting on the enshittification. i just expect most projects to head that direction these days.

      • vivendi@programming.devEnglish
        4·
        19 days ago

        between lapse and zed I also decided on Lapse because it feels much more community-oriented than Zed; maybe you should look into that

        • commander@lemmy.world
          1·
          19 days ago

          I hope people switch to Lapce and it gets great extension support. First I tried it after years of vs code, it opens so fast. It’s like back in the day of sublime text, notepad++/notepadqq. I haven’t tried to see how ridiculously large of a log file I can open in it yet

  • EfreetSK@lemmy.world
    814·
    20 days ago

    Here we go!!! I was expecting the enshitification of this thing for past couple of years

    • cley_faye@lemmy.world
      11·
      19 days ago

      It was explicitly said to not use this outside of VSCode, so, I’m not sure where the surprise comes from.

    • deadcream@sopuli.xyz
      371·
      20 days ago

      You are late. They have already did the same with C# extension, and made it closed source too.

      • synapse3252@sh.itjust.works
        8·
        20 days ago

        I’m not up-to-date: what did they do to the C# extension? I’ve been using it on a personal project and haven’t experienced anything egregiously terrible (yet)

        • copygirl@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
          19·
          20 days ago

          A lot of the C# ecosystem is open source (thank goodness), but the official debugger isn’t, hence it only being available in the proprietary version of VSCode.

  • daskye@fedia.io
    294·
    20 days ago

    I think a lot of people would really benefit from learning neovim

    • Billegh@lemmy.world
      6·
      18 days ago

      That’s just it, these extensions themselves refuse to run if the fork doesn’t say it is vs code. You’d have to build it yourself to report compliant information to the extension, or build the extension yourself to not check. Both of which are not trivial.

  • FizzyOrange@programming.dev
    22·
    20 days ago

    Not an issue. Install Clangd and CodeLLDB. They are much better anyway (see my other comment).

    The real golden jewel that Microsoft keeps to itself is the Remote SSH extension. There’s no open source alternative as far as I know.

    There’s also Pylance but that only matters if you’re using Python.

  • fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.comEnglish
    11·
    19 days ago

    Maybe we need a new movement (or revisit past ideas from the 70s) that focuses on ensuring the openness regarding freedoms of computing (😉) that combat proprietary SaaS offerings? idk.

    This is why OSS as an org needs a change IMO. Licenses like SSPLv1, where software can be supplied for free with options that allow a company to make money without risk of a cloud vendor snapping up their software (think Redis, MongoDB, etc) need a place at the table.

    • moonpiedumplings@programming.devEnglish
      62·
      18 days ago

      Licenses like SSPLv1

      The SSPL requires that all software used to deploy SSPL software is open sourced. If I deploy my software on Windows, do I have to provide the source code for Windows? What about the proprietary hardware drivers, or Intel Management Engine?

      The SSPL is not the next generation of licenses, it is effectively unusable. And both Redis and Mongo, dual licensed their software as the SSPL, and a proprietary license — effectively making their entire software proprietary.

      make money without risk of a cloud vendor snapping up their software (think Redis, MongoDB, etc) need a place at the table.

      Except Redis, and Mongo were making money. They had well valued, well earning SAAS offerings — it’s just that the offerings integrated into existing cloud vendors would be more popular (because vendor lock in). They just wanted more money, and were hoping that by going proprietary, they could force customers away from the cloud offers to themselves, and massively increase their revenue… They did not get that.

      Another thing is that it’s not “stealing” Mongo/Redis’ when cloud vendors offer SAAS’s of Mongo/Redis. Mongo/Redis, and their SAAS offerings, are only possible because the same cloud vendors put more money than Mongo/Redis make yearly into Linux and other software that powers the SAAS offerings of Mongo/Redis, like Kubernetes. Without that software, Mongo/Redis wouldn’t have a SAAS offering at all.

      I definitely think that it’s bad when a piece of software doesn’t get any funding it needs to develop, especially when it powers much more modern software, like XZ. But Mongo/Redis weren’t suffering from a lack of funding at all. They’re just mad they had to share their toys, and tried to take them away. But it didn’t even matter in the end.