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The largest upward transfer of wealth in history… so far.
Not counting the ones during Covid or 2008.
Everyone seems to forget the Libor scam/conspiracy. Trillions.
Everyone seems to forget offshore tax havens, or as I like to call it, ‘The Well of Souls’. (£36 TRILLION as of 2016)
Our country is being robbed, our futures stolen
The floodwaters can only be dammed so long before breaking free. Whether that happens via controlled release of pressure or a disastrous blow out is up to the people with the regulatory power. Their failure to address the tide can only end in their painful ruin. For their sake, they better have fast legs if they don’t grow some hearts.
It’s less that the regulators are failing to do their jobs and more that regulators are being given toddlers’ first toolset to do the job that requires some high end tools.
Sorry, my intent was to apply the label of “regulator” to the publicly elected officials and ghouls controlling the course of this legislation (i.e. regulating society). I are engineer, so sometimes I mix my lingo and analogies.
Not me, never had a future.
That’s okay.
We’ll take the futures from their offspring.
This will not go unpunished.
These faceless devils have finally sent the scale crashing down on us. That overstep is going to need a correction. Destroy corporate property every where you go. Burn it all down until the flames reach the heights of Musk and Buffet. A civilized future requires us to band against the oligarchs now.
Haven’t we seen this headline a few times already? I feel like this was a point made after 2008 and covid lockdown at least.
It was true then and it’s true now.
That was when he was doing the PPP loans and required them to be untraceable, at the time it was the biggest transfer of wealth, this apparently does even more and goes even further
Yeah, it just keeps repeating itself and gets bigger each time. I meant my comment more to read that this is a repeating theme in the us.
Again lol. U guys have not realized that two party system does not work …
Many of us realize that it’s broken, but voting doesn’t seem to fix it…
Yep voted for a long long time and tried to be progressive. At this moment I just want this to be over, so whatever the worse is.
It’s working exactly as intended.
This. This is the truth.
The poor die so the rich can get richer.
The French public would have a called a general strike at minimum while the AmeriKans take it in the ass.
Because these two countries are otherwise identical in every way. Good thing you have an easy solution that still works in spite of the existence of assault rifles and wire taps
Not exactly.
The American political system turned into a gaggle of Mafias some time ago, France isn’t quite there yet.
I mean it’s pretty much been that the whole time… Idk I guess I’m just tired of people saying basically “Well here’s an obvious solution that you clearly missed because you’re automatically lazy and/or stupid if you’re from the US, and especially if you don’t have the financial solubility or high-demand skills to easily expatriate or you’re disabled, just get up off your lazy corn-fattened ass and go yell at the people who give the US military their orders. Oh, you say you tried and nothing happened? You must have been an utter and complete failure. You deserve this then.”
Not that that’s what is being said precisely, but it hits the same notes. And DicJacobus, this isn’t aimed at you, but at the original comment in this thread. Unless you agreed with them and I misread your tone
did you know that protesting is not legal in many places in the US and also the police like to just murder people randomly
Then, they should have protested when protesting was made illegal. Now, they’re paying the price for that mistake, unfortunately.
That was around 9/11 and when Americans decided that racism was more important than civil rights.
To be fair the French complain about their access to stolen modern day African money
So far
Hey, yanks, until your centre right party (the Democrats) is willing to go all in and run candidates at all levels of government on the slogan of “The Largest Downward Transfer of Wealth in American History”, your far right party (the Republicans) will keep repeating this. But if it makes you feel better, go back to blaming Muslims in Michigan or whatever.
The swing voters in the US is dumb as a brick.
They care a lot more about “culture war” issues.
Don’t hate the 1%, hate the gays!
“Swing Voter” == “Too Embarrassed To Admit Being A Republican”
So make “tax the rich” a culture war thing. Left populism is a winning strategy too.
Left populism is a winning strategy too.
Not if its surpressed in (social) media, unfortunately.
As horrific as it sounds, the US very much needs a ‘Democrat Trump.’ But even that can’t happen in the current media environment. There are all sorts of proposals to address that, but the problem seems to be that people can’t help themselves and keep using Twitter, watching Fox, stay glued to Facebook or whatever.
Trump used to run as a democrat, so we already have that.
How? The largest campaign that ever occurred for taxing the rich was occuring by AOC and Bernie around the U.S. The media will air something about Trump taking a green shit after drinking a blue slupee far more. It doesn’t matter until they switch the notion to something that threatens the media and their families lives more than likely. They own the media.
Don’t ask me, a random guy on the internet. Ask your elected representatives, your intellectuals, your think tanks. Your civil society, man, not some random Canadian online.
You’re the one telling us the obvious, as if it was easy to do and we just weren’t smart enough to think of it first.
The democrats are in on it too and it doesn’t matter how many candidates they have politically aligned with the public’s best interest. I keep saying this but the only way to break out of this loop is for both parties to split and take a large chunk of resources with them with they do. They also need to eliminate the “CEO” position for any party and all vote for the primary candidates instead of making arbitrary decisions. I get it, you need a leadership for housekeeping reasons, but the current RNC and DNC CEO’s are not at all about housekeeping for the greater good. All of it is lip service while they take tax-free “political contributions” from all those shady “SuperPACS” . This is all wishful thinking and I’m just hear along for the ride in the billionaire made hand basket to hell.
The French solution
Trickles down on the rich.
This bill also fully bans Medicaid Gender Affirming Care, adults and all.
Considering the entire history of the US is one big upwards transfer of wealth, that is really saying something.
So far
And yet we get banned for talking about the solution.
We get banned for talking about increasing taxes on the wealthy through like progressive tax policy?
So how do we increase taxes on them when they control all our politicians?
No politicians, no problem.
…I can’t use a /s for this. Because, honestly, we might have a shooting war within a decade. I think most of our politicians don’t understand why the social contract was a thing.
Asking the rich to be less rich doesn’t seem to be working so well to me.
Sweet summer child, that won’t happen. It’s far more likely that we just kill them all before those things get voted in.
Senseless killing is a superficial solution. Organization is the sustainable, but less glamorous one.
Untrue, naked violence has solved more conflicts in this world than anything else so yeah
That is simply not true. Violence is the last resort, and many movements were successful before that. Violence can be effective, but needs to be measured. You must get people on your side, and you won’t achieve that through murder.
Of course it’s more complicated, but in general, to effect lasting change, you need widespread support and a good narrative, just look at MAGA. They didn’t kill people to get into power, they were elected. Now that they are in power, they have legitimacy and can start disposing of the undesirables however they want, slowly turning up the heat.
You will rarely achieve love through hate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_movement_impact_theory
Heh. Senseless.
I agree with the premise, it just doesn’t change anything. Change needs to be political, and as long as you keep the neoliberal fuckwits and fascists in power, there will always be enough parasites to fill the empty place.
Change needs to be cultural. So long as we live in our current cultural distinctions of “mine and thine” instead of some sort of collaborative being then this will keep on happening.
That flows directly from the bedrock of our culture which is “Your worth as a human is determined by the work you do in service of building wealth for those above you.”
That would be a brilliant point if anyone, at all, ever, advocated for senseless killing.
Senseless killing is a superficial solution. Organization is the sustainable, but less glamurous one.
That won’t ever work in the US.
Not with that attitude. Seems like MAGA succeeded in organizing sufficiently.
What are you gonna do? Kill all CEOs? And then? Kill all politicians? And then? Police? Military? Dissidents? Do you just keep killing? How do you handle the resulting societal trauma?
How exactly do you think any of that can achieve sustainable, progressive change?
Whatever it takes, and peaceful solutions have proven ineffective for decades.
So what do you propose? What are the logistics of it? How do you organize to take out enough systems to take over? What do you do afterwards?
Life isn’t some fantastical action story, it’s the incredibly complex reality we all live in where a single person cannot fathom all the variables therein. You are not trying to understand, you are not trying to be effective, you’re just circle jerking in your fantasy world. And as long as many people keep doing that, living in some kind of hyper-real abstraction of reality, the people actually smart enough to organize and get into power will be able to do whatever they want. You’re just another enabler.
All you have is “organize” or “awareness.” Your action plan is as circle jerky as ours. My guess is you like the direction the country is going in.
My personal solution is to get out of the house and watch it burn from the neighbor’s yard.
I don’t live in your fash country and no, I absolutely despise the way your country is going in and pulling the rest of the world into hell :)
What I have is political activism in a leftist party where I am helping get new members and organizing various events teaching about democracy and its tools, amongst other things, as well as supporting other groups and bettering the local community.
What you have is fear and a desire to feel good about yourself whilst doing and achieving nothing. You’d rather fuck off than pull through on your mighty words - that’s also called cowardice.
Well that’s the power of federation.
Except… when most of the action happens in one spot.
I mean, if you can’t talk about killing oligarchs, is it really action??
Well, you have a point.
Not if they keep having terrorist moderators
They do and yet it still is the popular place.
It was less than a week ago!
I think we might be on different pages.
This is the kind of thing that could lead to the chop chops. But, don’t worry guys. I’m sure it’ll trickle down any day now.
Too bad the republican propaganda machine will blame Biden or brown people or something else, that this is going to remove freeloaders and make the gutted programs save them money. Even if they personally lose their healthcare, somehow it’ll be the democrats that made it that bad. Somehow…
Could? Should