• Evkob (they/them)@lemmy.ca
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    My brain is just now upon seeing this post processing why right-wingers always accuse the left of virtue signaling; as always with conservatives, it’s projection. They virtue signal by wearing crosses while definitely not giving a hoot about the teachings of Jesus.

    They can’t imagine someone sincerely supporting a cause they care about and assume we all only do it for recognition among our peers, because that’s the way they use causes. To signal to the in-group that we are one of them.

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        Virtue signaling, political correctness, woke, they’ve used a bunch of terms over the years and I don’t doubt they’ll eventually move on from woke to another term they use to mock anyone with empathy.

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          they still use woke, VS used by other than conservative most of the time. woke is primarily used by cons, and cons pretending to be on the other side.

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      This comment connects the dots so incredibly well compared with what I see from my angry conservative family.

      They can’t imagine someone sincerely supporting a cause they care about and assume we all only do it for recognition among our peers, because that’s the way they use causes. To signal to the in-group that we are one of them.

      Fuuuck, that is exactly the mindset I was raised to have, and which I very much had during my angry teenage years. Fortunately that was a long-ass time ago and in the decades since I’ve had everything from college to the internet to let me consider the thoughts and arguments of other less angry/hateful/bigoted/sociopathic people.

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        My parents are pretty hippy-dippy granola types who have regularly volunteered for our local Green Party, so I’m obviously coming at this from a different perspective than you. I like to think I’d have ended up at the same conclusions I have even if I grew up with super conservative parents, but I’d probably be pretty different.

        So props to you for doing the hard work of detaching yourself from those mindsets. Of course, we all absorb some bullshit through society at large (heck I even remember, when I was just a kid, my dad making occasional “jokes” about how Indigenous people here in Canada “were lazy and got everything for free”. And my dad is rather progressive for his peer group).

        But I can only imagine it must be so much harder to detach yourself from that if your family is completely immersed into the kind of rhetoric the right has been pushing for years now.

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    the fact that her husband will be 70 when her kid graduates high school (ironically the exact time when she started dating her husband who was 50) is gross

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      Don’t be like that. Hate her based on anything else but 2 consenting adults well past when their brains are fully formed being together is far from gross or unethical.

      If it was 18 and 38 then yea.

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          Old dads have a high probability of being best dads (assuming they aren’t shitty people independent of age). A fifty year old man is far more likely to have a stable career in cruise control (read chillin), had his fill of philandering, and is genuinely looking forward to being a father. I always think of Robie Uniacke, Rosamund Pike’s partner and father to her children. He was born in 1961 and the moment he found out he was having a kid with Rosamund, he decided to learn Mandarin and has opted to only speak to the children in Mandarin so that they could be multilingual. That’s the sort of zany shit an older man can get up to once they realize they have a chance to be an awesome dad.

          Or, you could be born to a Trump or Elon. No guarantees.

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    if someone says they are christian, they are. I look at this person and see a perfect example of a religious person.

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      My Dad had a saying I always really liked.

      “You don’t have to be a Christian to be a good person and you don’t have to be a good person to call yourself a Christian.”

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          Stalin, Ghengis Khan, Pol Pot, etc. Shortcuts can lead to cliffs.
          I’m not suggesting that there aren’t some terrible, terrible Christians out there too.

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            Look closer. At least two of them don’t make the point you want to make.

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              I’m afraid you’re going to have to spell that out for me.
              I do kind of regret the Mongolian example though. It was interesting to find out about nestorianism & his religious tolerance.

              edit: an extra full.stop.

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                You seem to already have half of it. Dschingis Khan has fought slavery and given the debate about nuclear bombs, used violence wisely.

                Pol Pot, I don’t know if there is a reason to justify the killings.

                Stalin, you can either go the way of his education, which means that his cruelty is rooted in a Christian upbringing. Or you could look at the disclosed CIA Stalin memo that reveals that most of his image is western propaganda. Or you could look at the decline after him and realize that whatever he did (or at least most of it) was necessary given the circumstances.

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        I would say that before you can become a Christian you first have to realize that you aren’t a good person, but if you call yourself a Christian and say you are a good person, you are neither.

        “Here is a trustworthy saying that deserves full acceptance: Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners—of whom I am the worst.” — 1 Timothy 1:15, NIV

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      if someone says they are christian, they are.

      Then you can’t hold someone who says they are a Christian accountable for the actions of other people who say they are Christian. Nor does the descriptor “Christian” tell you anything about a person other than the fact that they say they are a Christian.

      Afterall, someone who believes there is no God, and that it’s fine to torture, rape, and kill anytime your feel like, is a Christian as long as they say they are.

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    I’d say it’s a choice as to what the symbol communicates.

    A tattoo that is art or fun creative is awesome.

    A cross, be it tattoo or necklace… Just means you promote one of humanities biggest and oldest lies.

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    Untrue. Christianity is self-proclaimed. This “real Christian” bullshit is apologetic nonsense, just like “the devil made fossils.”

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      As an atheist raised roman catholic, I disagree.

      There are rules and tenets and ideals of the religion. It’s not about meeting them, but it is about wanting to and more strictly attempting to.

      It’s not even a no true Scotsman fallacy, because there’s a book no flavor of Christianity I know of openly rejects while claiming to be Christian, even if they have adendums like the book of Mormon. The rules are defined.

      They aren’t only not trying to live up to those rules and ideals, they aren’t only just paying them lip service, they are actively, jubilantly, and studiously undermining and working against the most belabored edicts of their belief system without end and calling that Christianity.

      Cheering for the torture of the meek, demanding cruelty upon people from foreign lands and calling oneself Christian, ie Jesus of Nazareth as written in the New Testament, is like claiming to be an academic because you burn a book every morning and brag about how illiterate you are.

      “What you have to know how to read and… read books instead of burning them to be an academic?” Actually yes.

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        Academia is a capitalist indoctrination/gatekeeping machine, but I won’t get into that. You know there are mixed, opposing religions, right? Things like African American Christians still worshipping indigenous African gods. I don’t know if you’ve heard, but the world isn’t black and white anymore. You can use language however you want, but you can’t just do religion correctly, Christian is a self-proclaimed title linguistically and by subjective categorization (even the tree of life is old news - labels to make sense of shit), and from my experience “real Christian” is a term used by apologists to distance themselves from people like The Westboro Baptist Church (who actually read their bible). Been that way since I was balls deep in watching Matt Dillahunty and shit 15 years ago when I gave a shit about atheism.

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        You’re looking in the wrong direction. Inconsistency in religion is the name of the game. No base to stand on in the fucking Bible. Look in the direction of sociology, and on your way, take a peek at Buddhist theories of mind. The Buddha was a real philosopher whose system is partially used today everywhere in psychology. Christianity popped up in an area dominated by Western philosophy, and it’s valuable to take a look at what the East had going on.

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    Religion is the true cancer of society. MAGA is the side effects of that cancer. Makes sense because most MAGA are highly religious.

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      i disagree. i think spirituality can be amazing and make life and good values even more complete.

      i see issues in hierarchies, domination, and hate. not all religion but probably all dominat religion.

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        Christianity was a fabulous anti-establishment death cult that taught there was no higher honor than being gruesomely murdered by the state for loudly proclaiming their inadequacies. Then the council of Nicaea happened and they BECAME the establishment aaaand… My conversion to Gnosticism of going fabulous thank you for asking. It’s not OG flavor Christianity if you’re not actually being persecuted!

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    Gang tattoos do. If you have a, say, MS13 tattoo and you’re not a member, and a member sees that. You’re not going to like it. It’s a membership card. But I agree with the rest. It takes more than a cross to be a Christian. Faith without works is dead.

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    I guess I’m kind of getting rude here, but why do all the women get evil looking and hardened once they work for the trump administration? It’s not age but like Cruella type stuff.

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    Seriously I have come to find blonde women grossly unattractive and its because of Fox News and this motherfucker.

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      I found that one pissed off rant from a Young Turks journalist where’s she’s angrily saying “I DONT CARE WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS” to be very attractive. I literally know nothing else about her and she could be a horrible person, but that moment of righteous indignation really had an effect on me