Not commenting on the actual crisis going on but who cares what the American Jews think? They aren’t in Israel and have never lived a day over there. It’s almost like American Irish giving their opinion of Brexit. Yes we know what is going on is wrong, but the audience voicing their opinion barely has more relevance than the average person. It must be exhausting on boths sides to have foreigners voice their opinions on what is an actual war zone right now.
When a common refrain of pro-Israel propaganda is “All criticism is antisemitism”, you bet your fucking ass that the opinion of American Jews is important.
Comparing the Jewish diaspora to the American Irish isn’t even apples and oranges, it’s apples and ice cream trucks. They’re not even in the same category.
People with Jewish ancestry are born with a “birthright” to become a citizen of Israel (including the option for dual citizenship, of course). It’s just a completely different and unique situation.
I might have a “birthright” to become a citizen of Israel, but that doesn’t mean that I, as an American Jew, have a strong connection to Israel. It definitely doesn’t mean that I have influence over what Israel does or am somehow responsible for Israel’s actions.
I’ve recently seen people celebrating attacks on a Jewish temple and bakery in America because “they are a symbol of Zionist aggression.” The person was justifying anti-semitic attacks on American Jews because “Israel did X.” I expect this antisemitism from the right, but this was coming from someone on the left. As an American Jew, it’s scary to suddenly face antisemitism for something I have no influence over from both sides of the aisle.
I’ve recently seen people celebrating attacks on a Jewish temple and bakery in America because “they are a symbol of Zionist aggression.
Got a link? Because a lot of those videos have been proven to be disinformation, and videos from years ago completely unrelated to the conflict. One of them was people celebrating after a soccer game.
It was posted by Adam Schiff on Threads. This is one of the replies (with the name crossed out because I don’t want it to seem like I’m doxxing the user):
Calling every temple or Jewish run business in America fair game because they are “a symbol of the Jewish/Zionist state” is definitely anti-semitic.
Not commenting on the actual protest going on but who cares what the random Fedi thinks? They aren’t in the protest and have never participated a minute over there.
This is a social forum. It’s made for comments? You don’t have to care what I think and I’m fine with being wrong, but I hope you aren’t on Lemmy just for an echo chamber.
Wow, so, a public space is appropriate for public comment, like, perhaps a protest is a legitimate expression of opinion?
betz24, I’m about to exercise my freedom of expression on a social forum made for comments, but, your comment (not you, I don’t know you. Big distinction) is very stupid. With high emphasis on both “very” and “stupid”. It also displays an absolute lack of self-awareness which I think would be personally enriching for you to start practicing.
Dusty thanks for the feedback. Clearly a lot of people are upset at the comment I made. As a person with several friends in Israel, I felt this article wasnt doing the people justice.
Not commenting on the actual crisis going on but who cares what the American Jews think? They aren’t in Israel and have never lived a day over there. It’s almost like American Irish giving their opinion of Brexit. Yes we know what is going on is wrong, but the audience voicing their opinion barely has more relevance than the average person. It must be exhausting on boths sides to have foreigners voice their opinions on what is an actual war zone right now.
When a common refrain of pro-Israel propaganda is “All criticism is antisemitism”, you bet your fucking ass that the opinion of American Jews is important.
Similarly, when people assume that because you’re a Jew you must support Israel, it’s also important to make that distinction.
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Comparing the Jewish diaspora to the American Irish isn’t even apples and oranges, it’s apples and ice cream trucks. They’re not even in the same category.
People with Jewish ancestry are born with a “birthright” to become a citizen of Israel (including the option for dual citizenship, of course). It’s just a completely different and unique situation.
I might have a “birthright” to become a citizen of Israel, but that doesn’t mean that I, as an American Jew, have a strong connection to Israel. It definitely doesn’t mean that I have influence over what Israel does or am somehow responsible for Israel’s actions.
I’ve recently seen people celebrating attacks on a Jewish temple and bakery in America because “they are a symbol of Zionist aggression.” The person was justifying anti-semitic attacks on American Jews because “Israel did X.” I expect this antisemitism from the right, but this was coming from someone on the left. As an American Jew, it’s scary to suddenly face antisemitism for something I have no influence over from both sides of the aisle.
Got a link? Because a lot of those videos have been proven to be disinformation, and videos from years ago completely unrelated to the conflict. One of them was people celebrating after a soccer game.
Here’s the article: https://www.yourcentralvalley.com/news/crime/glass-smashed-at-jewish-temple-jewish-owned-bakery-in-fresno/
It was posted by Adam Schiff on Threads. This is one of the replies (with the name crossed out because I don’t want it to seem like I’m doxxing the user):
Calling every temple or Jewish run business in America fair game because they are “a symbol of the Jewish/Zionist state” is definitely anti-semitic.
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antisemitism blackmail is finished.
Not commenting on the actual protest going on but who cares what the random Fedi thinks? They aren’t in the protest and have never participated a minute over there.
This is a social forum. It’s made for comments? You don’t have to care what I think and I’m fine with being wrong, but I hope you aren’t on Lemmy just for an echo chamber.
Wow, so, a public space is appropriate for public comment, like, perhaps a protest is a legitimate expression of opinion?
betz24, I’m about to exercise my freedom of expression on a social forum made for comments, but, your comment (not you, I don’t know you. Big distinction) is very stupid. With high emphasis on both “very” and “stupid”. It also displays an absolute lack of self-awareness which I think would be personally enriching for you to start practicing.
Dusty thanks for the feedback. Clearly a lot of people are upset at the comment I made. As a person with several friends in Israel, I felt this article wasnt doing the people justice.
You know that Ireland is not a part of the UK, right?
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