Third truth, it’s not just Israeli leaders who are promoting the violence against Palestine, and many of those that do use their Judaism as a shield against criticism.
fourth truth, more White American Protestants defend the genocide than there are Jewish people in America so you gotta be careful
The fuck I do! Supporters of the genocide deserve to be called out no matter their religion, but it also needs to be called out when people support the genocide and utilize the charge of anti-semitism to justify it.
At this rate, “anti-semitism” is starting to mean anti-genocide.
Anyone who doesn’t believe in a two-state solution is a terrorist to me.
woosh - I wonder what brought you into this thread…
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that was a general “you gotta be careful” and i didn’t mean you specifically XD
…until you went and composed that thoroughly self embarrassing message. now i mean it. be careful, you’re treading strange waters that are going nowhere.
Perhaps this is a case where we’re misunderstanding each other (no doubt more so in my case.) I must be missing something because I don’t find the intent behind my response to be embarrassing, but I am open to the fact that it reads differently than I intended.
What I reject is that I need to be afraid of speaking up against Israel (or to the Zionists abroad) or to be afraid of the “anti-Semitic” label. To your point, there are reasons to be afraid, to be careful. But to me we must speak the truth despite those reasons. Part of that truth is undoubtedly that the Israeli government is empowered by the Christians in the US and in turn the US government.
I am NOT anti-Semitic, but I’m confident in my belief that calling out ANYONE (regardless of their religion) for their support of the Palestinian genocide is the right thing. If someone is to label that anti-Semitic I believe they are weaponizing that term.
May I ask pointedly, what specifically are you saying to be careful of?
When you referred to people who practice Judaism as a shield to criticism your make a very general statement against Jewish people, not all Jewish people support Israel genocide, which is what netanyahu is using as a distraction to stay out of jail. Usually when someone says they “are not this or that” it means you are what you said you aren’t.
again, that was a very general statement. we gotta be careful. like, “rule of thumb: a genocide merits care.” as in, “taking care of what you do and say is a good thing.” or “based on previous statements, we can conclude that the future needs are not given, but rather chosen with care and planning.”
there was no specificity in my statement whatsoever so yeah i guess if you were finding some that was a misreading on your part and i apologize. hope this clarifies.
that said i do stand by that, even given a misunderstanding, your escalation to “at this point anti-semitism is starting to mean anti-genocide” was purposeless and without evidence. if i am reading you right we have a lot in common and it’s not helpful to open messages with “the fuck i do.”
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oh no another (intentional this time) misreading XD imagine unironically claiming that “take care” means the same thing as full-on apologia.
you’ll want to pick up a dictionary because you my friend have lost more than the plot.
Hooray, someone meme-i-fied the only proper take on this subject!
yayyyy i hope thats genuine i like when my memes are helpful :)
Sometimes the shape is as important as the content, especially about “sensitive” subjects. So yes, thank you! 🙏
Seconded - thank you OP!
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Fuck Israel, genocidal scum!
How did we stop Nazis in the past? Was it… kindness? Memes? Or violence?
I’m not sure what’s that you’re trying to say OP.
Violence against the IDF is very different from violence against Rabbi Moe down the street. Maybe Rabbi Moe is a rabid zionist, maybe when he’s done with shabbat he spends Sundays protesting against Israel. Violence against him as a jew is antisemitism and unacceptable, while violence against him as a supporter of the idf would just be bad optics.
Was it fighting random germans, or fighting the actual nazis? I’m not sure what you’re trying to say.
There was literally no random Germans.
If you read memoirs from that time, or survivors letters, they always talk about Nazis being the milkman, the cobbler, the shopkeeper, the neighbour, and not Gebels or Hitler.
Kind of reminds me of the brainwashing the media instituted about how covid was somehow a China thing and shortly after, people were attacking Asians because somehow or rather if you’re Asian, suddenly covid was all your fault. It was also just another excuse for racists to act out. Humans really are just that dumb.
I hate that these cunts are starving children supposedly in my name. Fucking diabolical.
wdym by in ur name?
in the name of the Jewish identity
Antisemitism will truly be defeated when Jews can live anywhere in the world without fear of persecution, not when they’ve carved out their own ethnostate.
Unfortunately, I feel like these times call for explicit clarification in what should be obvious.
“…when Jews can live anywhere in the world without fear of persecution… for being Jewish” (but like everyone else can be held accountable as individuals for crimes including war crimes; that being Jewish doesn’t turn prosecution into persecution)
The fact that this needs clarification is evidence that we do not deserve a future as a species.
JFC are we fucking idiots that this needs to be spelled the fuck out.
Valid distinction thanks to Israel.
So so many people forget two things can be true
many such cases!
Can we add a 3rd truth that hamas is a death cult that has no place in today’s world. I like all 3 things equally
Only if we add in recognition that Hamas would not without Israel. You can kill two birds with one stone.
only if there’s a fourth truth held also equally that hamas only exists due to the obscene conditions israel has created which also have no place in today’s world yet have been funded by some of the most wealthy nations, thereby entangling the web of both israeli and palestinian blood across generations decades and borders :)
Nope. Israel and the international community gave the Palestinians an opportunity to build industry and improve their conditions and live peacefully. They gave billions and billions for this purpose without restriction (apart from military - which as history shows, appears warranted). The Palestinian people voted in Hamas who had a mandate to destroy Israel - from what I can tell is based in religious fundamentalism. Instead of building their economy and educating their population they used the money to build tunnels and pay for thousands of rockets to be fired into Israel. This was a terrible choice and there’s no denying it was a gamble on the Palestinians behalf. One that if it payed off and went to plan (as was in their mandate) would have slowly lead to the destruction of Israel. Bad gamble. Didn’t pay off, the Palestinians have to accept voting in a government who said they will destroy Israel and then consistently carrying out that plan, has at least in some large part lead them to their current circumstances.
On a similar note. Why has there been no talk of how Benjamin Netanyahu was about to go to prison for corruption - then he tried to destroy the checks and balances on government. Then he got caught knowingly funding hamas’s October 7 attack. Clearly all to hold onto power yet no one talks about this anymore?
This user is a victim of propaganda.
No this one is?
So. When is enough dead children enough for you? Will you stop when they’re all dead? Or will you just move onto another country?
You know, hamas murder people for being gay right? How many dead gay people is enough for you?
I have yet to see any proof for this claim. As far as I know, Hamas doesn’t kill queer people, at least not systematically. They face violence, no doubt about that and that’s already bad enough, but stick to the facts here instead of making shit up.
No
And what an irony that you blame all of that on Palestine, but then also complain about the man who made sure to disrupt the people who wanted peace.
It’s only irony if you realize that what I am saying is that neither side is right or innocent. Both sides have expressed their shitty nature. Pretending one side is right does an injustice to those on both sides who actually are innocent and willing to bargain in good faith.
Zionists should do the world the favor and just go away from the public eye. Y’all are garbage opinions parading like nazis.
Can you point me to the part of my comments that make you think I’m a Zionist?
I know, it’s the part where you put an equivalence between the Zionist occupiers and the resistance to that illegal occupation. Regardless of the ideology of the occupied people, they have a right to armed resistance enshrined in international law. The occupier has zero rights in this context, just the responsibility to end the occupation and until then, provide for the needs of the occupied, which Israel has utterly disregarded on both accounts. So saying “both are as bad” in this context makes you a clear supporter of the Zionist atrocities, the resistance is exercising it’s human right to armed resistance to occupation. You know, like when jewish Partizans killed during WWII. Calling that equally as bad as the Nazis would in effect make you a Nazi supporter.
And #4 that a people under brutal occupation has a right to resist, even armed resistance?
Which part of Palestinian combatants being joined by non combatants and then invading and murdering and kidnapping 1200 civilians is considered “resisting.”
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Man, someone should have told Bibi that before he funded Hamas for years. That’s embarrassing!
Most likely by design. It annoys me that this doesn’t get brought up everyday
I got banned from a .blahaj community for saying “hamas bad” for, I quote, “Genocide apologia”.
Some peep here are literal extremists.
Also not mentioned too much is how Egypt and the other Muslim nations refuse to help or take people in from Gaza.
Ya never ever bring up that annoying little fact. Most of their neighbors would refuse them entrance. And a lot of of them are happy to arm them and fund the extremist behavior. It’s almost like the whole world is involved in this little proxy war! A microcosm of WW3
Why does it have to be Muslim countries?
They’re geographically closer for one thing. They have a shared faith, this war is a rather relugious one. They shouldn’t be the only countries accepting refugees, but they should certainly be among them.
Thank you for providing a thoughtful response.
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Why does it have to be Muslim countries?
I vote for the wise frog.
amen bruv
I don’t advocate adventurism, but important to note that violence against jews is different than violence against Israeli state actors.
Just in case this meme is referencing the recent shooting of two Israeli Embassy workers. Again, I don’t advocate adventurism, but it’s important to recognize a distinction between violence directed at an ethnic group and violence directed at government officials.
other violence than those two victims going on unfortunately. both preceding and since, and civilians.
Like the time that Israeli shot those 2 Israelis in the US.
or those poor people who got attacked with a flamethrower literally today (this is breaking news btw im not fully caught up so apologies for any error)
Unless there was a different incident, i’m pretty sure the one you’re talking about was a molotov cocktail, not a flamethrower.
again, already apologized. breaking news: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/live-blog/colorado-fire-attack-live-updates-rcna210305
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I don’t care anymore, antisemitic, antiarab, nothing in that part of the world is of any concern to me now.
that’s awesome. do us all a favor and block this community then so we never have to get those two cents again.
Semites aren’t a religion, it refers to people from the Middle East regardless of religion
hi spujb did u know the jews invented hash browns https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latke
yes! shoutout jewish ppl
They also created the bagel, no? Love me a plain bagel as the buns if a breakfast sandwich. God. Now I’m hungry.
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- islamophobia (islam)
- arabphobia (arab)
- hinduphobia (hinduism)
- sinophobia (chinese/asian)
- russophobia (russian)
- christophobia (christianity)
- romaphobia (romani)
- afro-phobia aka anti-black racism (african or black)
- kurdophobia aka anti-kurdish sentiment
- armeniophobia aka anti-armenianism
if this is your first time hearing about these things i guess congrats on the blissful ignorance but it’s time to do some reading if you want to make commentary bud
No one uses those specific words though.
ok kid
